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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Ran-D]
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then ignore what were saying and continue that stupid talk about living in ferguson
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
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Jesus christ people.
Where there is poverty there is crime, this is true for all races.
Did you forget the shit that black people went through in the last century? More recently, the loss of industry and white flight going on in the cities in the '60's and '70's, it left neighborhoods to decay, along with the previously employed residents of them. They literally collapsed, and the crime wave began in the later generations who grew up in these areas who were at extreme risk to getting roped into the violence and destruction going on that started with the economic situation. It is much much MUCH harder for a person who grows up in those situations to get through it without falling victim to the influence, or falling victim to the crime itself - as oppposed to a sheltered kid living in the suburbs not surrounded by absolute strife. Kids who make it through and lead productive lives have overcome a lot more than I, or you have. Most grow up in actual food deserts as classified by the USDA. Many are raised by parents who were never prepared for a child, and did not help them grow up and make it out okay - many are stuck there for life. It's a really sad situation.
What the media is not showing are the residents who care about the neighborhood, they're there, talk to any older folks in a bad neighborhood and they are saddened about the state of things and just trying to hold their community together, I've met people who sweep up their streets which are conveniently forgotten about by street sweepers, and often forgotten about by the rest of the city here in Philly. You live in a bad area and your neighbors are always your friends, you watch out for each other, and there's a strong sense of community going on block by block.
This is an issue that goes much deeper and farther back than people think, it's bred by an unfortunate economic situation and by discrimination suffered in the last two centuries. It's only been 50 years since the civil rights movement, and people still suffered awful discrimination on par with segregation from people who never supported it to begin with. It's hard to pick up and just be "okay". Blaming race alone is shortsighted and stupid. Take a look at any poor area in an urban situation(where people are piled on top of each other, usually) and you'll see the same patterns regardless of the country and the race that dominates the area.
Everyone's pointing out statistics and no one's trying to figure out why. It's shortsighted and it doesn't solve the problem in any way.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
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pirate-blues said: Where there is poverty there is crime, this is true for all races.
Nailed it. How people don't recognize something so painfully obvious is beyond me.
That ends that argument, so we can all move on now.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: Ran-D]
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ok, after I dropped them statistics the people arguing shut up quick though didn't they.
I never thought skin color itself caused violence, just cant' stand people that deny that blacks do cause a shit ton more crime than whites,
with that being said I'll move on
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
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Statistics are cold hard facts and I'm not disputing them, I thought that you were saying just what you weren't. People just completely ignored the struggles and entire race went(and is still going through, although to a lesser extent than the 20th and 19th century), I'm not excusing any violent crimes, I'm trying to explain that it is a problem that is much more complex and goes deeper than 'lol black people are all thugs'. I've lived in sketchy neighborhoods dominated by black people, nothing bad happened to me, even the crack dealers under the underpass I walked through to get to work left me completely alone and I minded my own business.
I was however robbed at gunpoint in a better neighborhood, by someone who looked 15 years old, max. So many of these kids are just forgotten by everyone, and then they wonder why they're prone to committing crimes when the only attention they're payed is probably by very, very bad influences.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
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your opened minded, the people from page 1 and 2 were arguing that white people do just as much but it's hidden in the news.
in fact I was called simplistic for thinking that blacks committed alot of violent crimes.
mind you none of them have chimed in again after the numbers came out. But I'm sure they will and they will say that the numbers are fake and not to be trusted.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
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BlindSophist said: I'm not seeing a citation for those statistics BTW 
In America
"Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent."
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime
boom. lololololol @ you
keep it mind blacks are only 16% of our entire population
Interracial crime is not racially motivated crime. When you account for the fact that there are many more whites than blacks in the country, and that most potential victims of crime are white, it becomes obvious that this statistic is virtually meaningless.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
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pirate-blues said: Jesus christ people.
Where there is poverty there is crime, this is true for all races.
Did you forget the shit that black people went through in the last century? More recently, the loss of industry and white flight going on in the cities in the '60's and '70's, it left neighborhoods to decay, along with the previously employed residents of them. They literally collapsed, and the crime wave began in the later generations who grew up in these areas who were at extreme risk to getting roped into the violence and destruction going on that started with the economic situation. It is much much MUCH harder for a person who grows up in those situations to get through it without falling victim to the influence, or falling victim to the crime itself - as oppposed to a sheltered kid living in the suburbs not surrounded by absolute strife. Kids who make it through and lead productive lives have overcome a lot more than I, or you have. Most grow up in actual food deserts as classified by the USDA. Many are raised by parents who were never prepared for a child, and did not help them grow up and make it out okay - many are stuck there for life. It's a really sad situation.
What the media is not showing are the residents who care about the neighborhood, they're there, talk to any older folks in a bad neighborhood and they are saddened about the state of things and just trying to hold their community together, I've met people who sweep up their streets which are conveniently forgotten about by street sweepers, and often forgotten about by the rest of the city here in Philly. You live in a bad area and your neighbors are always your friends, you watch out for each other, and there's a strong sense of community going on block by block.
This is an issue that goes much deeper and farther back than people think, it's bred by an unfortunate economic situation and by discrimination suffered in the last two centuries. It's only been 50 years since the civil rights movement, and people still suffered awful discrimination on par with segregation from people who never supported it to begin with. It's hard to pick up and just be "okay". Blaming race alone is shortsighted and stupid. Take a look at any poor area in an urban situation(where people are piled on top of each other, usually) and you'll see the same patterns regardless of the country and the race that dominates the area.
Everyone's pointing out statistics and no one's trying to figure out why. It's shortsighted and it doesn't solve the problem in any way.
Why do you need white people in a neighborhood for it to prosper? What is the critical mass of white people necessary?
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Interracial crime is not racially motivated crime. When you account for the fact that there are many more whites than blacks in the country, and that most potential victims of crime are white, it becomes obvious that this statistic is virtually meaningless.
I have a life outside of the shroomery, BTW.
enjoy these from the same source then
Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When Blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-Blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
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Poverty is correlated with criminality across racial lines and blacks are an economically disadvantaged minority.
Here's a citation for ya:
The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat-- New York Times, June 16 2015
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/world/middleeast/isis-or-al-qaeda-american-officials-split-over-biggest-threat.html
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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s top intelligence, counterterrorism and law enforcement officials are divided over which terrorist group poses the biggest threat to the American homeland, the Islamic State or Al Qaeda and its affiliates.
The split reflects a rising concern that the Islamic State poses a more immediate danger because of its unprecedented social media campaign, using sophisticated online messaging to inspire followers to launch attacks across the United States.
Many intelligence and counterterrorism officials warn, however, that Qaeda operatives in Yemen and Syria are capitalizing on the turmoil in those countries to plot much larger “mass casualty” attacks, including bringing down airliners carrying hundreds of passengers.
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An Islamic State member gave a soccer ball to a boy at a public event in Syria, in a photograph released by a militant website.ISIS Transforming Into Functioning State That Uses Terror as ToolJULY 21, 2015 Muhsin al-Fadhli, identified by the Pentagon as the leader of the Khorasan Group, a militant cell in Syria.Leader of Qaeda Cell in Syria, Muhsin al-Fadhli, Is Killed in Airstrike, U.S. SaysJULY 21, 2015 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, said to be the Islamic State's leader, in an image taken from the website of a militant group last July.ISIS Leader Takes Steps to Ensure Group’s SurvivalJULY 20, 2015 Nasser al-Wuhayshi, leader of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, was killed in an American drone strike in Yemen.For U.S., Killing Terrorists Is a Means to an Elusive EndJUNE 16, 2015 Members of the Nusra Front, a Qaeda affiliate, gathered for an offensive to take control of the Syrian city of Ariha last month.Al Qaeda Tries a New Tactic to Keep Power: Sharing ItJUNE 9, 2015 This is not an academic argument. It will influence how the government allocates billions of dollars in counterterrorism funds, and how it assigns thousands of federal agents, intelligence analysts and troops to combat a multipronged threat that senior officials say is changing rapidly.
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Obama's Evolution on ISIS The issue already has prompted a White House review of its counterterrorism policy toward the Islamic State. And the National Counterterrorism Center has diverted analysts working on longer-term extremist threats to focus on the Islamic State, also called ISIS or ISIL, intelligence officials said.
In June, the F.B.I. had so many people under surveillance in terrorism-related investigations — mostly related to the Islamic State — that supervisors reassigned criminal squads to monitor terrorism suspects.
For all the concern, there have been no Qaeda attacks in the United States in 14 years, though some were thwarted or fell apart. And most of the Islamic State-inspired plots so far have been unsophisticated but increasingly difficult for the authorities to detect in advance.
American officials say this is not a black-and-white debate between those who worry more about Al Qaeda as the main threat to the homeland and those who say it is the Islamic State. Both are worrisome.
It is more a shift in emphasis. The F.B.I., the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security are concerned more about the rising risk from the Islamic State, while the Pentagon, intelligence agencies and the National Counterterrorism Center, which focus more on threats abroad, are more anxious about Qaeda operatives overseas.
The White House seems to be leaning toward the Islamic State, increasingly alarmed by what Lisa Monaco, President Obama’s homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, recently called the group’s “unique threat” to the United States.
The debate is evolving in real time, thus there have been no large shifts in money or personnel yet in one direction or the other. But it is the first time senior American officials have spoken so openly about the evolution.
How much the United States spends on counterterrorism is difficult to pinpoint because many of the main actors and agencies — American troops, C.I.A. analysts and F.B.I. agents, to name a few — carry out other functions, as well. But senior American officials say that counterterrorism programs employ roughly one in four of the more than 100,000 people who work at the C.I.A. and other intelligence agencies, and account for about one-third of the $50 billion annual intelligence budget.
About 3,400 American troops in Iraq are helping the Iraqis fight the Islamic State, while about 9,800 forces in Afghanistan are assisting that country’s security personnel in combating the Taliban, Al Qaeda and other extremists there.
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mk philly pa None should be regarded as a lesser threat than the others; each is to be faced as deadly. 333 COMMENTS The issue is likely to gain prominence in the 2016 presidential campaign, as Republican candidates criticize the Obama administration for failing to anticipate the rise of the Islamic State from the ashes of the Iraq war. “We didn’t finish the job,” Senator Marco Rubio of Florida said last month.
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Graphic: Where ISIS Has Directed and Inspired Attacks Around the World The debate was brought to the surface two weeks ago when James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, said at the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado that the Islamic State posed the greatest danger to the homeland.
Senior leaders of the Islamic State — unlike those of Al Qaeda — have not made a priority of organizing strikes on the West. Instead, the Islamic State has encouraged individual Westerners to carry out such attacks on their own. “It’s currently the threat that we’re worrying about in the homeland most of all,” Mr. Comey said.
Mr. Comey said the group was focusing on how to “crowdsource” terrorism, by having thousands of its promoters reach out and screen potential adherents on Twitter and other open social media, then switch to communicating on encrypted apps or email programs that American intelligence officials say they have difficulty cracking.
“They’re just pushy,” Mr. Comey said. “They’re like a devil on somebody’s shoulders saying, ‘Kill, kill kill,’ all day long.”
A few days later, the attorney general, Loretta E. Lynch, weighed in on ABC News, saying of the Islamic State, “It’s as serious — if not more serious a threat — than Al Qaeda.”
American analysts say the Islamic State is replacing its combatants in Iraq and Syria as fast as the United States and its allies are killing them there, and the group still maintains as many as 31,000 fighters.
Unlike Al Qaeda, ISIS controls territory, provides civil services and has infrastructure. It remains well funded — earning close to $1 billion a year in oil revenues and taxes, according to Treasury Department estimates — and has expanded to other countries, including Libya, Afghanistan and the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt.
Current and former counterterrorism and intelligence officials, as well as some lawmakers, who closely monitor risks overseas say that although the risks of the Islamic State are real, the overall threat is more complex and requires a nuanced strategy.
“ISIS is all about the quantity of attacks. Al Qaeda, on the other hand, is focused on the quality of the attack,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. “For that reason, Al Qaeda still, in that respect, very much concerns me even more than the quantity of ISIS attacks.”
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Expat August 6, 2015 Cui bono? Who is making profits by buying oil from ISIL? Their continued success depends on that flow of money, so we need to cut it off by... Pilgrim August 5, 2015 Pepsi or Coke? They're both bad for us. Steve Fankuchen August 5, 2015 It is disappointing that many of the Most Recommended comments are devoted to affixing cause and blame rather than considering what we... SEE ALL COMMENTS Gen. Joseph L. Votel, head of the Pentagon’s Special Operations Command, said at the Aspen forum that the Islamic State is “much more prominent right now,” but added that Al Qaeda “remains a very, very, significant concern for us.”
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Graphic: ISIS Finances Are Strong Nicholas Rasmussen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said in an interview, “There’s a greater likelihood of ISIL being linked to attacks in the homeland right now. That said, we still look at A.Q.A.P. as more capable of carrying out larger-scale attacks against the homeland, including against aircraft coming here.” A.Q.A.P. is the Qaeda affiliate based in the Arabian Peninsula, in Yemen.
In July 2014, the Transportation Security Administration banned uncharged cellphones and laptops from flights to the United States that originated in Europe and the Middle East after picking up intelligence about the collaboration between the Qaeda operatives in Syria and Yemen.
“I wouldn’t put it on a matter of scale as significant as what we faced 10 years ago from Al Qaeda, or even now from Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or the Khorasan Group, to carry out more significant, perhaps catastrophic, attacks,” Matthew G. Olsen, a former director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said of the Islamic State threat in a telephone interview, citing Qaeda groups in Yemen and Syria.
James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, told the Aspen forum, “To say one is of greater magnitude than the other, at least for me, is hard.”
Yet there is no doubt that the threat from the Islamic State has seized the immediate attention of policy makers and intelligence officials here, in Europe and in the Middle East.
John P. Carlin, the assistant attorney general for national security, told the Aspen forum that the authorities have made more than 50 terrorism-related arrests in the past 18 months, mostly involving the Islamic State, in the jurisdictions of 20 United States attorneys nationwide. Eighty percent of those arrested are younger than 30, and 40 percent are under 21, he said.
In early July, Mr. Comey said the authorities had thwarted multiple attacks being plotted for July 4 by the Islamic State and its sympathizers in the United States, though he did not say what the plots entailed or how many people had been arrested. The F.B.I. has hundreds of investigations pending into such cases across the country, he said.
Twitter accounts affiliated with the Islamic State have more than 21,000 English-language followers worldwide, Mr. Comey said, and thousands of them may be United States residents.
“We are facing smaller-scale attacks that are harder to detect, day to day to day,” the homeland security secretary, Jeh Johnson, said at the Aspen forum.
What sets the Islamic State apart from other terrorist groups is its fluid structure and adept appeals on social media, American officials say.
“Al Qaeda tried to be a movement and capture a more global imagination, and it largely failed; regional groups joined the A.Q. banner, but it never truly became a wholly decentralized movement,” said Michael E. Leiter, a former director of the National Counterterrorism Center. “ISIS has been more successful on this front, and this is why it is more dangerous, more difficult to identify adherents, and more challenging to combat.”
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
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pirate-blues said: Jesus christ people.
Where there is poverty there is crime, this is true for all races.
Did you forget the shit that black people went through in the last century? More recently, the loss of industry and white flight going on in the cities in the '60's and '70's, it left neighborhoods to decay, along with the previously employed residents of them. They literally collapsed, and the crime wave began in the later generations who grew up in these areas who were at extreme risk to getting roped into the violence and destruction going on that started with the economic situation. It is much much MUCH harder for a person who grows up in those situations to get through it without falling victim to the influence, or falling victim to the crime itself - as oppposed to a sheltered kid living in the suburbs not surrounded by absolute strife. Kids who make it through and lead productive lives have overcome a lot more than I, or you have. Most grow up in actual food deserts as classified by the USDA. Many are raised by parents who were never prepared for a child, and did not help them grow up and make it out okay - many are stuck there for life. It's a really sad situation.
What the media is not showing are the residents who care about the neighborhood, they're there, talk to any older folks in a bad neighborhood and they are saddened about the state of things and just trying to hold their community together, I've met people who sweep up their streets which are conveniently forgotten about by street sweepers, and often forgotten about by the rest of the city here in Philly. You live in a bad area and your neighbors are always your friends, you watch out for each other, and there's a strong sense of community going on block by block.
This is an issue that goes much deeper and farther back than people think, it's bred by an unfortunate economic situation and by discrimination suffered in the last two centuries. It's only been 50 years since the civil rights movement, and people still suffered awful discrimination on par with segregation from people who never supported it to begin with. It's hard to pick up and just be "okay". Blaming race alone is shortsighted and stupid. Take a look at any poor area in an urban situation(where people are piled on top of each other, usually) and you'll see the same patterns regardless of the country and the race that dominates the area.
Everyone's pointing out statistics and no one's trying to figure out why. It's shortsighted and it doesn't solve the problem in any way.
Why do you need white people in a neighborhood for it to prosper? What is the critical mass of white people necessary?
lol, you don't need white people. You need jobs, Camden NJ used to be a safe place filled with factories and jobs, mostly for campbells(sp?) soup, was there not a major loss of industry and therefore jobs in the late 19th century? There are a number of affluent majority black neighborhoods, West Mt. Airy, in my city, is one of the top ranked wealthiest community dominated by black people.
They exist across the country, many existed in Chicago before the fires, but they still exist there, and in many major cities.
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in fact I was called simplistic for thinking that blacks committed alot of violent crimes.
mind you none of them have chimed in again after the numbers came out. But I'm sure they will and they will say that the numbers are fake and not to be trusted.
Thankyou. I try to be as realistic and objective as I can, don't always succeed, but I try.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: zappaisgod]
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That's because it's typical for right-wing domestic terrorists to be regarded as "lone nuts" who are not connected to any broader ideology or movement. Essentially, right-wing radicalism has been normalized by attacks like these which deflect attention from the political movements behind them and toward smokescreen issues like gun control and the mental health of somebody who takes their politics so gosh-darn seriously.
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Maybe blacks are more likely to be in poverty because they're more criminally inclined?
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BlindSophist said: Poverty is correlated with criminality across racial lines and blacks are an economically disadvantaged minority.
Maybe blacks are more likely to be in poverty because they're more criminally inclined?
Maybe it's the fact that pretty recently they were segregated and discriminated to a huge extent, and before that flat out enslaved in this country. The last recorded lynching in this country is as recent as 1981. There was blatant systemic racism that the black community is still recovering from.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: pirate-blues]
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Why do they not create their own jobs? There is more than enough of them.
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: zappaisgod]
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Maybe it's because they lack the resources and education necessary for finding a job that pays a living wage. You act like it's so easy to just open up your own business, it's not anymore, taxes alone in most cities are an absolute killer. We're talking about areas where even grocery stores refuse to operate. I'd love to if you were born impoverished in a violent area, with parents who could not or would not help in anyway, and where 98% of violent crime victims were made up of your demographic(and yes, black on black crime is an issue, it doesn't change the fact that it's a massive struggle to even get out of the terrible neighborhood you were born in and statistically most likely to stay in), add in systemic racism and discrimination too. I know you're from Brooklyn, and if you lived there during the big crime wave in the '70's and '80's, I realize you were probably in a rough neighborhood, and I'm asking you honestly. You have a very "pull yourself up with your own bootstraps" attitude, much of the last generation does, and they don't appreciate that things are not the same as before in that regard.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/30/young-people-skint-baby-boomers-generation-wages-crisis
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Why don't they have resources? Do they need hand outs from whitey? Why can't they grow their own towns and culture on their own? The only systemic racism I know of is Affirmative Action. Why do they need white people to hire them when they should be making their own companies and their own inventions?
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Re: Would you live in Ferguson for 1m dollars? [Re: zappaisgod]
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You didn't answer my question.
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