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What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote?
#22072636 - 08/10/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not thinking about doing this at all for the record. I'm just wondering, since it's so supposedly rare, hypothetically, if some dude went into documented regions where peyote is known to exist -- what are the odds of him (or her) actually finding some? 10%? 5%? 1%?
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22072655 - 08/10/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I guess a lot would depend on how dense or sparse the local population there was and how long you spent looking. I'd love to go see them in habitat someday.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: psi]
#22072683 - 08/10/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I rode with my friend once while he cut limbs off cacti in peoples yards trying to find one with peyote in it. I can't remember if there was any, I dont think so though.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22072695 - 08/10/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think a desert in the US, your chances would be slim. I think down in Mexico, you might have some luck if you go to the right place and know their habitat. I've never gone yote hunting though.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Herbologist] 4
#22072696 - 08/10/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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here's some wild peyote
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla] 1
#22072703 - 08/10/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the closest I've come to finding peyote was when I found some peyote on GTA V
I ate it and Franklin turned into a rabid dog
I mauled like 4 people to death before the cops took me out
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22072708 - 08/10/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's sick. I would love to stumble across that. But, I never will.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22072714 - 08/10/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said: That's sick. I would love to stumble across that. But, I never will.
I think I read somewhere that deep South TX and northern Mexico would be the best spots to come across them
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22072734 - 08/10/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, that is what I read too. I think there are peyote farms in S. Texas for the NAC.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22072739 - 08/10/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That might be a fun adventure
On a journey to Mexico with an AK-47 and camping supplies hunting for peyote
You'd probably get killed or worse but it would be fun while it lasted
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Herbologist]
#22072740 - 08/10/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: I rode with my friend once while he cut limbs off cacti in peoples yards trying to find one with peyote in it.
that's a very peculiar way of trying to find peyote I must say
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22072758 - 08/10/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The natives know, but it's likely they won't tell you.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Le_Canard]
#22072772 - 08/10/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22072779 - 08/10/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Now I'm intrigued as to how this was popular in Native American use if it were so rare. I always assumed in most North American deserts suitable for it, the cactus would flourish.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater] 1
#22072784 - 08/10/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, it's endangered
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
#22072785 - 08/10/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well it wasn't always rare
Too many people ripped it out of the ground now it's a threatened species
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
#22072805 - 08/10/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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LoveNaborFuckHater said: Now I'm intrigued as to how this was popular in Native American use if it were so rare. I always assumed in most North American deserts suitable for it, the cactus would flourish.
Problem is it's slow growing as fuck, in the wild even more than in cultivation. If harvested improperly it dies, and if harvested properly it still takes a long time to recover.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22072811 - 08/10/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, it takes decades to get to it's propose, and still small, size
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: specialpeopleclub] 7
#22072845 - 08/10/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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In cultivation it's possible to speed them up quite a bit though.

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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: psi] 1
#22072855 - 08/10/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Herbologist] 1
#22072879 - 08/10/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: I rode with my friend once while he cut limbs off cacti in peoples yards trying to find one with peyote in it. I can't remember if there was any, I dont think so though.

1. That's a shitty thing to do.
2. Peyote is a button cactus, and doesn't have "limbs". You were looking/poaching for cacti with "mescaline" in it.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: psi]
#22072884 - 08/10/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: In cultivation it's possible to speed them up quite a bit though.


Ooo! Pretty, pretty Peyote!
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: psi] 1
#22072889 - 08/10/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's amazing.
Are they legal to grow here?
905'ers should spread the love to other 905'ers
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#22072901 - 08/10/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it is legal to grow in Canada. I've heard of peyote for sale in headshops in BC.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#22072909 - 08/10/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep, they are specifically exempted in the part of the law where mescaline is mentioned.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: psi]
#22072936 - 08/10/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: In cultivation it's possible to speed them up quite a bit though.


Has anybody here bought peyote off the deep web?
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: psi]
#22072966 - 08/10/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: In cultivation it's possible to speed them up quite a bit though.
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Peyote is extremely slow growing. Cultivated specimens grow considerably faster, sometimes taking less than three years to go from seedling to mature flowering adult. More rapid growth can be achieved by grafting peyote onto mature San Pedro root stock
I don't know how realistic 3 years is, but if you're dedicated that doesn't seem to bad.
What would be the difference in using another cactus containing mescaline? How much would the trip differ? Would it be like the difference in eating cubensis and panaeolus just because the alkaloid content is a little different in each?
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22072973 - 08/10/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's legal in much of the world, I hear of American members here managing to get them from nurseries in places like the UK and Thailand. Growing from seed is the cheapest though. Most growers seem to cultivate them as ornamentals, Trichocereus seems a lot more practical for consumption.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
#22073013 - 08/10/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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LoveNaborFuckHater said:
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psi said: In cultivation it's possible to speed them up quite a bit though.
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Peyote is extremely slow growing. Cultivated specimens grow considerably faster, sometimes taking less than three years to go from seedling to mature flowering adult. More rapid growth can be achieved by grafting peyote onto mature San Pedro root stock
I don't know how realistic 3 years is, but if you're dedicated that doesn't seem to bad.
A year to flowering maturity (1"+ diameter) is totally doable with grafting, one guy here has done it in 6 months (I think I'm remembering that right). He put together an animated gif with a frame per day that's pretty awesome, I'll see if I can find it. IIRC that was the user "Mostly Harmless." My non-grafted plants are something like 4 years and still are nowhere near flowering size, but they don't get pushed too hard.
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What would be the difference in using another cactus containing mescaline? How much would the trip differ? Would it be like the difference in eating cubensis and panaeolus just because the alkaloid content is a little different in each?
I don't eat my cacti so I can't comment on that aspect, but I believe peyote has a much broader mix of alkaloids.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: psi]
#22073026 - 08/10/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mostly_Harmless said: 3 of the 8 I chose for this have started on buds. 1 stalled a bud, and has since started to put out a second. The one I have been following with pics has a second on the way.
Sowed 31st October 2012 Germinated (approx) 10th November 2012 Grafted 20th November 2012 Flower opened 17th March 2013 138 days total from sowing seed to opening flower 30mm diameter
Last 2 pics in the montage and frames in the gif are from today, one when the light came on, one after the flower opened.
111 days growth shown.

Again, pics from today, before and after opening
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: psi]
#22073277 - 08/10/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would probably just order it online. Pretty sure it's legally ambiguous, nobody can prove you were planning to do an extraction.
You can also check out lowes and home depot for cactus, though they're pretty small, so you've have to invest significant time in letting them grow.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: pirate-blues]
#22074051 - 08/10/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pretty slim chance. First of all, it only grows in the southwestern part of the usa, a little bit in texas, but you would have to get onto an indian reservation first. I think they keep pretty tight tabs on their peyote supply. I don't think you can just go to the desert and pick peyote for fun.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22074073 - 08/10/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Niffla said: the closest I've come to finding peyote was when I found some peyote on GTA V
I ate it and Franklin turned into a rabid dog
I mauled like 4 people to death before the cops took me out
true story
Badass! xD
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22074606 - 08/11/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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One in a million
Which means it's not entirely impossible..
Your odds go up tho if u go out into the world and ask the right people.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: zZZz]
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Atreyu]
#22074681 - 08/11/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know how ethical that channel and info is.
I just came across it. Edit Actually it isn't that great but there a quite a few sources out there.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Niffla]
#22074687 - 08/11/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I actually tried to find the shit by just exploring in my early teens. Me and a friend became convinced we knew of an area that it would absolutely exist and all we had to do was find it. we spent countless hours scouring the area. It was before the days of internet for me, so I wouldn't have even know what to do with it even if we did find it. We would have either just started eating it as if it were an apple or something, or we'd of just smashed some up and tried to smoke it. Most likely the latter, because my knowledge at the time just told me peyote was smoked.
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22074696 - 08/11/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was under that impression too when I was younger and still thought drugs turned your brain into swiss cheese. I now know better, but is there actually a way to smoke peyote and feel the effects or nah?
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#22074707 - 08/11/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah there is, but we would've never known you had to dry it out or powder it or anything first. As for eating it, we'd also never of known to just eat the buttons.
The friend I was with on the search, was also the one who got extremely sick from eating some random mushroom growing on a dead tree, to give some kind of perspective on our mindsets back then. I knew better than to eat random mushrooms though.
I learned what peyote looked like in D.A.R.E. so I knew what I was looking for when it came to the peyote. No idea what mushrooms were good or bad. Me and another friend even told that friend to not eat random mushrooms he had no idea what they were and it could kill him, but he didn't care. He ate them like the dumb ass little kid he was.
I think the puking started about 20 seconds after he said "you guys are stupid, these are kicking in and I am so fucked up".
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: pirate-blues]
#22074708 - 08/11/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just saw in on of the videos that there is a type that you can smoke.
It's actually in the video I posted above at 4:30
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: Atreyu]
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Shroomslip said: Yeah there is, but we would've never known you had to dry it out or powder it or anything first. As for eating it, we'd also never of known to just eat the buttons.
The friend I was with on the search, was also the one who got extremely sick from eating some random mushroom growing on a dead tree, to give some kind of perspective on our mindsets back then. I knew better than to eat random mushrooms though.
I learned what peyote looked like in D.A.R.E. so I knew what I was looking for when it came to the peyote. No idea what mushrooms were good or bad. Me and another friend even told that friend to not eat random mushrooms he had no idea what they were and it could kill him, but he didn't care. He ate them like the dumb ass little kid he was.
I think the puking started about 20 seconds after he said "you guys are stupid, these are kicking in and I am so fucked up".
Hahahaha I was also a product of the esteemed program that is D.A.R.E.. Thankgod I learned about all those people who's lives were ruined by a single joint, it has helped and influenced me immensely, obviously.
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Atreyu said: I just saw in on of the videos that there is a type that you can smoke.
It's actually in the video I posted above at 4:30
Oh, thanks. I usually like to read things instead of watching, but I'll check it out
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Re: What are the odds of one going into the desert and stumbling across peyote? [Re: pirate-blues]
#22074721 - 08/11/15 02:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There actually isn't a lot of info in the video, I was just pointing out that there is a type that can be smoked.
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D.A.R.E. is the most retarded program out there for drug prevention. I mean straight from the instructors mouth "People do drugs because they make you feel really good". What the fuck. That's probably the last thing you want to say when you're trying to discourage it's use.
I didn't start drugs because of peer pressure or because I was damaged or any of that shit. I looked at like "they must be pretty great if such great lengths are taken to keep us from using them in the first place". The sheer volume of everyone trying to keep me from using them is what made me curious about them in the first place.. For most of my (applicable) childhood, it was just understood they were bad. But the more and more people tried to steer me from that path, the more curious I became.
I started asking around to find some drugs, and on my thirteenth birthday, a friend took me to a friend of his (who was a 23 year old stripper ) to get high for my first time. Never looked back since then.
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