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    #22072365 - 08/10/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So, a friend of a friend typically grows his own mushrooms. He is experienced in growing cubensis strains and has ground many varieties of cubensis shrooms (gulf coast, cambodia, mazapatec, penis envy etc.) However, he recently ran out of his own shrooms, and asked a friend to purchase some for him from an anonymous online website.

The mushrooms that were purchased were ground into a fine powder. They were in a zippered bag. The overall color was very light cream. A single spoonful of these mushrooms resulted in an intense experience that was unlike any mushroom experience before.

The characteristics of this experience were:

Eye jitters, like rolling
Jaw clenching, like rolling
Euphoria, like rolling
Amphetamine like rush
Colorful, glittery, shiny, bright, rainbow hallucinations
No body load
No sleepy feeling
No stomach upset
Great sex

It was not a one time, set/setting thing, because the friend repeated the experience on multiple dates and had the exact same response.

Obviously, the easiest thing would be to contact the seller through the anonymous website and ask what kind of mushroom it was. However, the seller is gone and there is no way to contact him.

My questions for you are...

Do you think it is likely that the bag of mushroom powder was adulterated? It did not have a chemical taste, and it looked like mushroom powder, not a chemical, but I guess it is possible. Seems like of pointless and unsafe though, and the seller had good ratings.

What strain of mushrooms is known to produce these effects? Do you think these may be Panaeolus shrooms instead of cubensis?

My friend consumed these mushrooms with pineapple juice and vodka. Could the pineapple juice have altered the mushrooms similarly to a lemon tek?

I realize this is like looking for a needle in a haystack, but seriously, after growing shrooms for over a decade, my friend has never felt mushrooms like this before. We would really love to get to the bottom of it, because it was an amazing time.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: AllyKat]
    #22072651 - 08/10/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It was probably some sort of psychedelic mushroom species.You'd have more luck sending a message to that vendor.You cannot identify a species by some powder and effects


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #22073114 - 08/10/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i recently saw a woodloving psilocybe (cant remember the name, it was smilar to p. cyanescens) only available as a powder on an anonymous site, that would explain it


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX]
    #22073178 - 08/10/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm very suspicious of any mushroom that would be sold exclusively in powdered form. However it could possibly be allenii, but it's impossible to know with any certainty.

Might have even been 4-AcO-DMT.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX]
    #22073299 - 08/10/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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XXfuzyxgamingXX said:
i recently saw a woodloving psilocybe (cant remember the name, it was smilar to p. cyanescens) only available as a powder on an anonymous site, that would explain it



That doesn't mean thats what Op got.:facepalm:


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #22073652 - 08/10/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the replies.

I realize there is no way to know for certain what was in the bag without contacting the vendor. Unfortunately, the product is gone from the website. Also, the friend who placed the order does not recall the user name.

My friend has grown mushrooms for 12 years. Not a novice. Believe me when I say that the experience was very different from any previous mushroom experience.

My friend has never tried any kind of mushroom other than cubensis strains. What I primarily want to know is if any other strain is known for eye jitters, euphoria, and very colorful visuals? Have you ever experienced a mushroom that felt more like MDMA + rainbows?

The powder smelled and tasted like mushroom, not like a chemical. I have heard there are chemicals that are very similar to mushrooms (4-AcO-DMT), but the dosing would be way less. Wouldn't that be dangerous?

XXfuzyxgamingXX, have you tried wood loving shrooms and were they similar to what I am describing?


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: AllyKat]
    #22073799 - 08/10/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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AllyKat said:
Thanks for the replies.

I realize there is no way to know for certain what was in the bag without contacting the vendor. Unfortunately, the product is gone from the website. Also, the friend who placed the order does not recall the user name.

My friend has grown mushrooms for 12 years. Not a novice. Believe me when I say that the experience was very different from any previous mushroom experience.

My friend has never tried any kind of mushroom other than cubensis strains. What I primarily want to know is if any other strain is known for eye jitters, euphoria, and very colorful visuals? Have you ever experienced a mushroom that felt more like MDMA + rainbows?

The powder smelled and tasted like mushroom, not like a chemical. I have heard there are chemicals that are very similar to mushrooms (4-AcO-DMT), but the dosing would be way less. Wouldn't that be dangerous?

XXfuzyxgamingXX, have you tried wood loving shrooms and were they similar to what I am describing?




yes, i have. they cause eye jitters, intense euphoria, and colorful visuals. the visuals i got from p. cyanescens were wayyy more colorful and amazing than anything ive gotten from cubensis. alot of other people report this. ive read that they can also cause partial facial paralysis and other wierd symptoms, they are much different than cubes.

" Have you ever experienced a mushroom that felt more like MDMA + rainbows?"

this is literally the perfect way to describe p. cyanescens


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: AllyKat] * 1
    #22073803 - 08/10/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Copelandia cyanescens gave me this effect.


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With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22075530 - 08/11/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

sorry to thread jack but i;ve only ever consumed  P Caerulescens, would anyone happen to have experience with these, and cubensis? Could you enlighten me on how they compare?


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: hawtdawglawl]
    #22075587 - 08/11/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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sorry to thread jack but i;ve only ever consumed  P Caerulescens, would anyone happen to have experience with these, and cubensis? Could you enlighten me on how they compare?





Pretty sure that mushroom hasn't been seen in like 15 years.

Pics?


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
    #22075595 - 08/11/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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hawtdawglawl said:
sorry to thread jack but i;ve only ever consumed  P Caerulescens, would anyone happen to have experience with these, and cubensis? Could you enlighten me on how they compare?





Pretty sure that mushroom hasn't been seen in like 15 years.

Pics?



Where did you get that conclusion from?


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
    #22075618 - 08/11/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

impaired420 said:
Quote:

hawtdawglawl said:
sorry to thread jack but i;ve only ever consumed  P Caerulescens, would anyone happen to have experience with these, and cubensis? Could you enlighten me on how they compare?





Pretty sure that mushroom hasn't been seen in like 15 years.

Pics?





http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21814121

Finds 1 month ago ^^


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
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This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22075644 - 08/11/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Whoops lmao, thought he was talking about "blue foot", the scientific name escapes me all the time...had it mixed up with landslides.

My bad brothers.
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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
    #22075696 - 08/11/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Its all good guy we all make mistakes


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: IISkuNkII]
    #22075762 - 08/11/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok so since i derailed the thread even more and have no experience with weilli personally, I found this chart.

https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info4.shtml

Read the disclaimer, as everyone agrees not every mushroom contains the same exact amount of alkaloids, even same species growing right next to each other will vary in alkaloid content.

They're ranked right next to cubes pretty much what I get from the chart.
But wait for someone with actual knowledge/experience before dosing lol.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
    #22075881 - 08/11/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no problem dosing, just wondering if i'm missing anything considering i've never had cubes.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: hawtdawglawl]
    #22075955 - 08/11/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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no problem dosing, just wondering if i'm missing anything considering i've never had cubes.




Psilocybin is psilocybin as far as I know.

Weilli and cubes are pretty close as far as content, so I ASSUME they'd be almost identical in experience, but...that is highly subjective to whom is dosing different shrooms.

I've read panelous cint give a different more "eery" kind of trip so I'm not sure.
Maybe make your own thread? Tbh your question is a bit confusing.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
    #22075986 - 08/11/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

different psilocybin containing mushrooms definitely give different trips. mostly due to varying baeocystin,psilocin,psilocybin contents especially went eaten fresh.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: hawtdawglawl]
    #22075993 - 08/11/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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no problem dosing, just wondering if i'm missing anything considering i've never had cubes.




Cubes are great. Mine were always very visual and the visuals were always very natural, geometric and superbly detailed. The body high was fun and interesting, very pleasant. I never had any stomach problems whether eaten fresh, dry or in a tea. The mind fuck can be very intense and overwhelming, which is great if that's what you're into. It was easy to get lost in the headspace and lose track of reality for hours, especially at the peak, which can be euphoric beyond measure. In fact I found most of my trips to be euphoric from start to finish, though there was the occasional instance of come-up anxiety. I had many deeply spiritual trips and found them to be very thoughtful and thought provoking. Every trip was a life changing experience in its own unique way.

How does that compare to your experiences?


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22076021 - 08/11/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the continued responses.

So far, none of you have commented on the pineapple juice. I looked it up, and it seems that people have used pineapple juice the same way they have used lemon juice in a tek.

So, could my friend have inadvertently done a pineapple tek on the powder? I asked him how he consumed them, and he indicated that he would put a spoonful of shroom powder in his mouth, and then added the pineapple/vodka and swished it around before swallowing.

Would this be enough to alter the shroom powder?

Also, just to be clear, because people abbreviate and it gets confusing...

Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens - These are tropical shrooms that grow on dung

but

Psilocybe Cyanescens - These are cold weather shrooms that grow on wood

Just want to be clear, because when people say P. Cyanescen, I am not 100% sure which one you are referencing.

Thanks!


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: AllyKat]
    #22076038 - 08/11/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No. The lemon juice helps to break down the cell walls of the mycelia which makes the actives available more quickly. Shorter onset, more intense peak, shorter duration because the actives can concentrate in the brain more quickly. Not that different from just making a tea.


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    #22076059 - 08/11/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

hi I found these mushrooms outside my complex was wondering if they are psychedelic, the gills are completely black and so is the spore prints


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: psyphetamine]
    #22076067 - 08/11/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

people usually say pan cyans vs psilo cyan


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Re: random mushroom [Re: psyphetamine]
    #22076143 - 08/11/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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hi I found these mushrooms outside my complex was wondering if they are psychedelic, the gills are completely black and so is the spore prints





This is the wrong place for a mushroom identification.
Go here:  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/3


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Re: random mushroom [Re: healing]
    #22076378 - 08/11/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ok thanks


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: psyphetamine]
    #22076694 - 08/11/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've had most of those effects, to some degree, years ago from wild liberty caps.  Also potent as fuck, and light in color as described.  Could be what you had.

The visuals were exquisite, multi layered, three dimensional and "sparkly".  There was plenty of euphoria and some mild speed effects as well.


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Re: Unknown Mushrooms [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22078779 - 08/11/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i should also mention that i dont think op got 4-aco-dmt, it doesnt sound right. sounds like some good shrooms


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