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Ganjaburger
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so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber
#22071941 - 08/10/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I prepared a casing/spawn to bulk (50/50coir/verm)about 3 days ago, it is just starting to peek through the top layer in about a dime sized splotch. I have read and read on when to throw them into the fruiting chamber to start to root for them, but it seems everybody has a different theory.My question is, I only have a very small hole covered with micropore tape for gas exchange, so I'm afraid that it might not be getting enough? Really my true question is should I just throw it in the fruiting chamber now, or wait for it to eat threw more of the top layer first? As always thank you guys I love the Shroomery this is the best site with all of the best people :-)
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: Ganjaburger]
#22072171 - 08/10/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let it colonize. Case when you remove tape from holes and add polyfill.
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: GreenRabbit]
#22072243 - 08/10/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Casing layer or bulk substrate??
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#22075243 - 08/11/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: Casing layer or bulk substrate??
What I did was mixed up a fifty fifty mix of coconut coir/vermiculite... Layered done of fifty fifty mix on the bottom then added a fairly evenly broken up mix of colonized brf/Verm... Then covered with 50/50 mix on top... I thought it would b a casing, but was Told it was considered spawning to bulk. Now there is a decent amount showing on top layer.... I was thinking about going un,cased. But really whatever u guys think we'll yield me the most is what I'll do :-) thx in advance!
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: Ganjaburger]
#22075261 - 08/11/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wait til it's colonized.
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: Ganjaburger]
#22075321 - 08/11/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ganjaburger said:
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wowimflabbergasted said: Casing layer or bulk substrate??
I thought it would b a casing, but was Told it was considered spawning to bulk.
And 1:1 coir/verm is kind of a crap ratio. I would do more like 4:1.
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#22075482 - 08/11/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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especially considering you use pf-cakes as spawn, they're 2/3s verm already. fruit at 100%, and throw a thin layer of your 50/50 coir/verm mix on top as a casing layer and fruit right away. gonna need it in the sgfc!
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: spacechildo]
#22076048 - 08/11/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I want the entire top to b a hundred percent colonized b4 inducing fruiting? What would happen if I put it in now? Out of curiosity y case? I'm just trying to understand since cubes don't require casing layer ? Just trying to understand, so I can figure out what tek yields most with my set up. Also, I have about 20 more jars colonizing right now about 15 of them are brown rice flour cakes, and five or maybe a couple more are wild bird seed. What do you think would be the best thing to do with these jars to yield the highest amount? I have no idea what would b best.... I assume fruiting as cakes wouldn't b the best choice. I have grown quite a few times in the past, but have only really used wild bird seed jump straight into grains my first row and never looked back until recently I started back up and received a ton of free brown rice flour, so I figured I might as well put it to you, what do you guys think would be best? Any suggestions are highly appreciated! Thanks :-)
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: Ganjaburger]
#22076061 - 08/11/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the top of the substrate, yes, the casing layer no. if you fruit a bulk sub before 100% you dont have 1 bulk sub you have 100 tiny islands of myc in a sea of substrate.
spawn your cakes and grains to a bulk sub in a monotub. cant go wrong doing that! checkout frank horrigans stuff, he has good write ups.
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: spacechildo]
#22076827 - 08/11/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well what I am really worried about the most is that there is only one tiny inoculation size hole in the top of the lid to the casing tray. With Micropore tape on it. I am afraid that without somehow giving it more gas exchange it might not be able to completely colonize everything, what are you guys think how much is gas exchange is needed? And even if it is around 80 or 90 percent you think it would be safe to put in there? Or when it gets 100% colonized could I throw it in the fruiting chamber with no casing layer?I just don't understand the extra step of casing after I've already let it grow out in the jar then Spawned it, and then after it fully colonized again waiting for the casing later but I know you guys know plenty more than me so I'll take your word over mine any day :-) Thank you guys so much in advance :-)
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Re: so what is the general consensus of when to throw casing into fruiting chamber [Re: Ganjaburger]
#22076905 - 08/11/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the casing layer helps keep a nice humid microclimate right on top of the sub. you could however skip the casing layer but I see no reason not to case when its as simple as spreading some leftover coir+verm on top. no waiting involved.
you definitely wanna wait to put it in the fc until its 100%. patience man!
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