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Offlineorizon
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Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions.
    #2207050 - 12/29/03 06:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey...Im looking to try mescaline but want to know the best route. I know peyote is illegal but evidnetally dried peruvian torch is available off the net. FRom what I know, peruvain torch is pretty muich the same as peyote, just contains about half the mescaline concentration peyote does. So Im probably gonna grind them all into capsules then ingest 35 caps that way. DO you think this is a good way to go? Also, any specific recommendations for some peruvian torch like good first hand experiences from fenders? I remember somebody suggested this one guy that offered dried peruvian torch that was supposigly more potent.
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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: orizon]
    #2207136 - 12/29/03 07:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

San pedro is good, I tried it 2 weeks ago :laugh: amazing trip!

The gelcaping idea sounds good. what I did is coock the san pedro a few times with limejuice and boiled until there was only 1 cup left. it was very sour and pretty thick too, but I could get it down pretty easily and had no nausia and didn't vomit.

I think the guy your looking for is Icaro. I saw his site a while ago but maybe you could do a search on google. or search the ethnobotanical garden forum or other drugs forum.

good luck :laugh:


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: orizon]
    #2207141 - 12/29/03 07:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Putting them In capsules is probly what you will want to do. I've done mescaline once and I made about 57 capsules from 30 grams...but of course I dropped a few on the ground here and there and didn't find them till a few days later. But I would go along with Peruvian torch since its usually more potent then San pedro. Best experience I ever had was from mescaline and its not much of a mind fuck either. The potency varies just like shrooms it depends on its growing conditions and stuff like that. Hope you have fun and post a trip report man.


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: orizon]
    #2207193 - 12/29/03 08:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The gelcaps can cause serious nausea. If you've ever dropped dried peruvian torch into some water you'll see how it blows up and what kind of shit comes off it. Not something you want floating in your stomach. I was sick as a dog for 2 days using gelcaps. If you want to experience a powerful mescaline experience with absolutely zero nausea then rectal admin is the way to go.


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2207207 - 12/29/03 09:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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If you want to experience a powerful mescaline experience with absolutely zero nausea then rectal admin is the way to go.




WTF!!:confused: I seriously dont know what your thinking. Capules would be by far the best way to go if taking cacti. Hell if you want a full blown experience just double the dosage. I had no problems downing as much as I did, in fact I actually felt like gold after my trip ended. Yo crazy man!! :crazy:


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2207361 - 12/29/03 11:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How would one go about sticking a foot long cutting of a cactus with razor sharp spines up their butt? I'd imagine it'd be a pretty complicated process involving a mescaline enema of some sort.


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2207397 - 12/29/03 11:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you're supposed to take it in gel caps and THEN plog it
60 gel caps in my butt at the same time doesnt sound possible tho :smirk:


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: Gus]
    #2207483 - 12/29/03 12:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

any other simple methods without using gelcaps?


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: Osker246]
    #2207558 - 12/29/03 01:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Capules would be by far the best way to go if taking cacti

Different strokes for different folks Oscar. All gelcaps gave me was two days of the worst nausea I've ever had. Rectal admin - far more powerful trip and zero nausea. If gelcaps work for you, that's fine. They sure as hell didn't work for me.


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2207562 - 12/29/03 01:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How would one go about sticking a foot long cutting of a cactus with razor sharp spines up their butt?

With great care.. :smile2:


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: garbage]
    #2207573 - 12/29/03 01:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

any other simple methods without using gelcaps?

Cut the torch into small chips. Freeze them overnight. Let them thaw. (Disrupts the cell structure). Put in pressure cooker and cover them with water. Cook at 10-15lbs pressure for 20 mins. Strain off the liquid. Repeat. Strain again. Drink or boil down the liquid to 50-100ml and plug.


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2208371 - 12/29/03 08:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Im not a big fan of stickin shit up my ass but I am willing to do it if you guys say its the best method. As far as avoiding nausea...wouldnt it still end up in your stomach and be exposed to water? It seems like it would be pretty hard to get around nausea from simply stickin it up your ass.


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: orizon]
    #2208576 - 12/29/03 10:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

* Weight out 50g of dryed cacti material and added this in to a large pan
do not chop up or grind material in to a powder/small pieces just leave
as is

* Add as much water as possibly but leave about 1 inch space from
the top of the pan

* Add 50cc of lemon juice (nothing else or you will fail) to water then
mix with spoon and then leave for 24 hours

* Place on a high heat then reduce volume to simmer, Remember to
keep an eye on it because it will boil over unless you reduce the
heat now and again

* Using a Polyester/Cotton material (ration dosent matter) filter the
material about 3-4 times to remove as much particles as possibe
this is very important.

* Keeping filtered remains repeat the whole process about 3 times or
until the water no longer changes colour or tastes bitter

* Add all extracts together and slowly boil down to about 200ml then
filter one more time

* You Should be left with a almost clear yellow/orange/green mixture it
wont be see through but there should be little particles in there.

Now for the fun part

*You can buy an enima bag online for about ?10 any disposible one
will do

* Using any type of lubricant place it where the sun dont shine as far
as the adapter will go

* Now lie on your side with your knees on your chest and slowly fill
enima bag (ensure the fluid used is just warm not hot or cold) and
let the bag empty some squeezing of the bag may be needed.

* At about 1 hour into it add 100ml of warm water into the bag and
gently squeez the bag repeat this at hour 2

* At 2 hours 30 mins goto the toilet and remove the equipment and
have something ready to throw the bag away

By this time you should realy feel the effect of the mescaline and there will be no need to go the toilet the stuff will just stay where it is till you come down from the trip and even then it aint that messy.

I have only ever done this twice the first time i followed the above and the trip was amazing with no purging or sickness of anykind and the tripp lasted a very long time say 16h +. The second time i failed because i used white vinigar and didnt filter properly and i went tot the toilet to early

Enima method


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: EvilGir]
    #2208777 - 12/30/03 12:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Since Peyote is legal in Canada why dont some people go there, get a big field, plant San Pedro, then graft peyote onto it, and ship them out and make nice $$ since no one really supplys it?

Or make some veg/fruit juice w/ peyote that tastes good and market it up there?

P.S. If someone uses this idea to get rich or mad peyote I get one free trip :grin:


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: orizon]
    #2209034 - 12/30/03 03:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Im not a big fan of stickin shit up my ass but I am willing to do it if you guys say its the best method

No-one is  :smile2: Depends how bad you want to experience mescaline. Try capsules or drinking it first. See how you go nausea wise. You might be ok. 

As far as avoiding nausea...wouldnt it still end up in your stomach and be exposed to water?

Nah, it doesn't end up in your stomach. Taking it orally I can guarantee I'll be sick as a dog for at least 5-6 hours. Taken rectally I can eat a meal straight after taking it. Zero nausea.

The book Sacred Cacti by K Trout is the ultimate reference work on mescaline cacti, he recomends holding it rectally for about 2 hours.


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: orizon]
    #2209680 - 12/30/03 12:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

it dosent go up your ass all the way to your stomach!!! i cant believe you thought that. it can be absorbed through any mucus membrane (oozy skin). theres just not enough room in your nose and its nasty to let it sit in your mouth forever like you would with blotter.


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2210572 - 12/30/03 09:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

once i got some powdered peruvian torch from some website a long time ago...i put it in empty pills and took them...i think alex is right about it expanding, i puked my guts out, it sucked


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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: orizon]
    #2210903 - 12/31/03 01:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I taken peruvian torch gel caps many times and only puked once. The only drawback I have experienced from dried cactus in gel caps is that I end up shitting most of the next day.

As far as reducing the volume of material needed to get right, I have a simple solution that works great.

Starting with 100 grams of dried peruvian torch, I grind it into a powder using a coffee grinder, as fine as it will get.

Next, I soak the resulting powder in 190 proof grain alcohol for a week. Grain alcohol is used because it is not toxic and therefore leaves room for error when you reduce it by evaporating.

Filter off the alcohol and save it. It has goodies in it.

Add more alcohol to the cactus powder and resoak for 3 or 4 more days. Repeat filtering. You can do this as many times as you want , but at a point it becomes pointless.

You can now toss the cactus material because it has rendered all of it goodness to the alcohol.

Evaporate the alcohol to reduce it to a tarry sludge.

If you used 100 grams of dried peruvian torch then you should have two good strong doses.

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Re: Wanna try Mescaline...few basic Questions. [Re: orizon]
    #20987436 - 12/17/14 01:44 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

this thread made my night, hah


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    #20987572 - 12/17/14 02:38 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

use bridgesii, make tea.


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