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Amanita86
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Turtletotem said: I don't know, I've taken some really high doses of mushrooms before, and never did I believe I could fly, or leave the bed even, come to think of it.
The only person in my country who ever jumped on mushrooms was a French woman... who had multiple suicide attempts under her belt before coming here. I tend to draw my own conclusions.
That reminds me of the bill hicks skit where he was going off on that story of people jumping out windows thinking they could fly.. something to the effect of "good, they deserved to die..you'd think if they could fly they would take off from the ground. You don't see geese lining up to catch an elevator when they fly south for the winter.."
Something like that. I don't know man, I've never had an inclination to hop off a balcony due to psyches. Quite the opposite. I could see myself falling off a balcony due to alc and benzos though. I think these flyers had a screw loose to begin with, and it was a matter of time before something catastrophic happened one way or another.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: Amanita86]
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I'm guessing it was just for laughs but that sounds pretty shitty... "deserved to die"? I'm not sure why a lot of people think that people who have bad trips or do these kind of things while under the influence of drugs HAD to have some kind of serious underlying metal illness to begin with. I think we need to keep in mind that these are substances that will seriously alter your way of thinking & your perception of reality.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: Amanita86]
#22070635 - 08/10/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha, I've never heard of that person until this thread so not sure what he's all about.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: Amanita86]
#22070637 - 08/10/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Professional help is being sought 
Bill Hicks was amazing.
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Btw, it's not lost on me of how you cherry picked those three words but decided to pass up the follow up logic in that loosely quoted quote.
Bill Hicks man, check him out.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: Amanita86]
#22070655 - 08/10/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I cherry picked your dad!
"Oooooo."
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lood_dood said: like, if I didn't arrange stuff in my room in a way that made sense, all would be chaos and I'd lose myself and die.
I believe the psychedelics gave you an insight to what it's like to being scizophrenic
When I came out of it, it made me think of what it must be like to have extreme OCD, like the real deal, or something similar. It was like my life depended on the movements i made, and the placement of things around me. I needed to do this because I my need for a sense of order to ammend the chaos was absolutely essential.
It opened my mind. You see, there was this kid at my uni who would spend literally an hour and a half trying to get to the dining hall from the dorm, which was a 3 minute walk away. Not to mention when he was in the dining hall itself it took him 4 hours to get his food, eat it, and put stuff away. I used to feel really bad for him, but thereafter I felt extraordinarily compassionate for his situation and the suffering of others who have to struggle through that shit every hour of every day. Like, I just had to deal with it for a few hours and it felt like an eternity in hell. This was a long time ago too, and I still hold onto that compassion. Before the trip went sour, I had the most awe inspiring moments of my life. After it was the most insightful.
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Bigfeely123 said: I cherry picked your dad!
"Oooooo."
Oh snap!! 
I bet you got your ass handed to you on that day..trust me, I know.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: Amanita86]
#22070854 - 08/10/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nah... I karate chopped him in the nads.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: Amanita86]
#22071246 - 08/10/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have always enjoyed skiing while tripping, but I make sure I am secured with my arm around the chair lift so I don't feel like I might be a tard and forget to not fall.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: Eggtimer]
#22072218 - 08/10/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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While that argument says that's schizo isn't a factual thing that you can give a definite yes or not answer to if someone is inflicted with it, there's a general set of signs that we associate with schizo. We have to classify things even though sometimes they can't be 100% ruled as classifiable. With this said he shared many of these, accepted signs of schizo that we use as a guide. So yes, I would still say he had a schizophrenic episode, but that doesn't mean that psychedelics will give you one. It's subject to user, set, and setting.
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schizophrenia and drug-induced psychosis are not the same thing.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: 404]
#22072257 - 08/10/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a hard time grasping the difference between the two but this made it alot easier to understand.
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If someone experiences psychosis they have a break with reality. A psychotic episode (a phrase used interchangeably with psychosis) includes symptoms such as hearing voices, believing in things that are not real despite evidence to the contrary (delusions) and paranoia. To be diagnosed with schizophrenia, an individual must have experienced more than one psychotic episode, along with other symptoms, within a six-month period.
So yes now I would say psychotic. http://psychcentral.com/ask-the-therapist/2010/06/02/what-is-the-difference-between-psychosis-and-schizophrenia/
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I don't know about jumping, but I once baked and ate a baby thinking it was a turkey.
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Re: Why do they jump? [Re: DrMambo]
#22074864 - 08/11/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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How did it taste?
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They jump because they're in hell and death sounds like sweet relief. It's the ultimate test for the mind.
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