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Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoidiocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice.
#22070195 - 08/10/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi all, this is my first or second post. Im using a cake tek w brf, verm, wood pellets, gypsum and also added some agar agar flakes which really seemed to help speed colonization. I'm using a mono as my fc.
Spores were from wild samples that I collected this year while the ovoids were still in season here in PA.
I cold shocked the cakes for 48 hour dunk then rolled in verm and soil and misting w creek, rain, and spring water. Fae fanning 4x per day plus using a bubbler now as well.
Recently started to put rectangular ice packs in fc for night temps of 59.7 and 64.00 at night (sensors on each side of monotub) and day temps roughly 75 to about 81 max.
Cakes have been in fc a week now. No signs of pins, nothing. Waited a week after full colonization to birth.
Am I missing something? Any advice to get some pinning? I think I've read just about everything there is to read on the internet along w using my own intuition \ ideas and still?
Round 2 of cakes I subbed wheat bran for brf and they aren't colonizing nearly as fast. I have an outdoor started in May for fruiting this fall or next year hopefully, but what is the secret to indoor? [url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/15-33/918810143-20150803_204012
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoidiocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22070208 - 08/10/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoidiocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: cronicr]
#22070223 - 08/10/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoidiocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22070225 - 08/10/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i'd say all you can do is give it time, my cubes tend not to fruit for a week so time is your friend with these and temps
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22070232 - 08/10/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You will also see a tray (first link) w some river plants, river sand, one or two cakes, and a chunk of viable mycelium from my outdoor patch was also added. The outdoor is from an established patch of 3 years or more. Season ended here about two weeks ago, so the next step was this experiment.
In the meantime I started some cube jars made w the standard tek adding agar agar flakes and gypsum. Spores were from dry specimens, re hydrated for spore prints. That didn't work so added sterile water and diced the caps and then inoculated w the slurry. Those are colonizing pretty well but I really like ovoids and don't want settle, know what I mean. I did a cube grow back in the late 90s, went well. Since I've found the world of ovoids, that's all I want. The smell is different, the experience is different and the hunting is plentiful, when in season.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22070238 - 08/10/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds good....watching the mycelium grow elsewhere in the meantime. Wondering if I could put my cubes in the same fc then, not sure of strain, they were a gift from a friend from another non cultivating friend, so I would have to ask. Wish me luck.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22070239 - 08/10/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Best of luck and hope it turns out stellar
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: cronicr]
#22070268 - 08/10/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Have people had luck fruiting ovoids indoors in the past? I figured that they would be near impossible like azures and cyans
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: tahoe]
#22070272 - 08/10/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yep a few have like monty/neo
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: tahoe]
#22070280 - 08/10/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They've had luck pulling them inside
here's a long one detailing some trials http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19503269/fpart/1/vc/1
I've never seen an attempt like this though. The cold shock and the cooling of the fruiting chamber with ice packs are good ideas sneardoggy
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: cronicr]
#22070285 - 08/10/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What did those guys do to be successful w it, any links maybe? Early in the season I got a piece of mycelium that was fruiting to continue w more but to get a cake or mycelium that has not yet fruited needs a secret key that I haven't yet stumbled upon. Going to give it a few more days then start temp cycling go imitate spring, then....if that doesn't work I may try freezing the mycelium and then going to temp cycling or just going for low to mid 70s day and cooler at night. I'm using blue, red, and full spectrum led for lighting. The lamp was designed to grow aquatic plants, its a fluval.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22070293 - 08/10/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ty Appalachian Brony. They are holding temps stable around 59 for about 4 hours at a time, hopefully will be worth the effort, up now swapping ice packs at 4am.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22070300 - 08/10/15 01:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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One more post on my behalf and I'm able to read the link.... Thanks fellas, time for some rest on my end, big day tomorrow but I will keep posting on my progress and results.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22075852 - 08/11/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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2 days later, temps remaining in low 50s, still no pinning, keeping at it
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#22076167 - 08/11/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's all you can do
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: cronicr]
#22186234 - 09/04/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moved to outdoor.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#24654679 - 09/23/17 09:40 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bacteria as a trigger needs to be explored further.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
#24654708 - 09/23/17 09:51 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's the one for sure thing that is probably in abundance in outdoor beds and probably nearly absent in most indoor attempts. In successful indoor attempts that involved the transfer of material from outdoor to indoor bacteria could be unknowingly collected from the outdoor beds and transferred indoors allowing for primordia formation. Just a thought.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
#24654773 - 09/23/17 10:25 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mike O Voidenski said: That's the one for sure thing that is probably in abundance in outdoor beds and probably nearly absent in most indoor attempts. In successful indoor attempts that involved the transfer of material from outdoor to indoor bacteria could be unknowingly collected from the outdoor beds and transferred indoors allowing for primordia formation. Just a thought.
Not really. I've seen grow logs of Ps. Ovoideocystidiata where people brought in wild-collected mycelium and expanded it septically (cause wood chips don't have to be sterile) and couldn't get it to happen. I have seen Ps. Cyans fruiting indoors in a mini-fridge, never seeing outdoors once. So I think it's possible without any other bacteria, I just think we are missing some kind of link.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24658013 - 09/25/17 05:12 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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What if the trigger is a specific type of bacteria though? I admit that I do not know too much about bacteria and that my hypothesis is pretty much a guess after some observations. My thoughts more in depth are that the Ohio River ovoid (the one I observed) lives in a area that contained a significant amount of very low land. This land contained standing water at its lowest points in mid April. No ovoids were observed inside of an area that was below the existing waterline. 95% of the fungi I observed in this garden were ovoid, 4% were an unidentified conk looking fungi that grew within 12 inches of ovoid. This conk growth was carmel colored on top, creamy on the bottom, and green around the perimeter. 1% was hyphloma fasciculare, and I found one single dryad's saddle. Near the waterline of the swamp was the only place the conk type growth was located and it was almost always near ovoid. I'm wondering if there is a class of bacteria that enjoys very wet conditions and cooler temperatures that is not typical for spontaneous indoor growth. Maybe a specific type bacteria that needs to get its start from something that is not typical in a standard grow operation like overly saturated substrate plays a part of the ovoid life cycle. I'm not suggesting ovoid should be cultivated in waterlogged conditions but what if the myco mat needs exposure to a bacteria that only grows in waterlogged conditions...... Maybe not, but this would explain why people have had some success collecting material from outside but not from standard indoor cultivation techniques. This unidentified bacteria could sometimes be accidentally collected from outdoor beds and other times not be present and not collected. I'm not trying to spread any misinformation, just trying to think outside of the box since the inside of the box doesn't appear to be very fruitful (pun intended).
Has a bacteria trigger been ruled out? It seems to me that a process of ruling things out would lead to a deeper understanding of the full life cycle.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
#24658031 - 09/25/17 05:28 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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What brought me to the bacteria line of thinking is the color of the conk. It was very typical Psilocybe color. I didn't think too much of it at the time but I collected wood from the location I was at and transferred it to my area. One of the cultures that I started I let get very nasty sitting in a stream bed and on a forest floor. One day I opened it up to see if anything was still alive. It was super gross until I got into the lower core area. There I discovered growth that looked a lot like the conk type growth I discovered in the Ohio River valley. After I had my fun exploring through this nasty box I contracted a bacteria that lived on my skin and caused cyst type infections. This stuff was pretty aggressive. I wound up on three rounds of antibiotics and had to do a full body wash two times a week in a special cleansing solution to get rid of this stuff. It left scars, this stuff was no joke. What if the bacteria I contracted is responsible for the conk type growth? What if different bacteria cause different growth patterns with ovoid? This bacteria connection would explain why ovoid pretty much appears different when it is cultivated in different locations. And it would explain why standard indoor techniques haven't worked out.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
#24658266 - 09/25/17 09:08 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mike O Voidenski said: What if the trigger is a specific type of bacteria though?
Then it would have been on that log that was already fruiting outside.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24666726 - 09/28/17 11:19 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some of the pieces of wood I observed exploded with pins. Been racking my brain, observing, and trying to listen. Maybe substrate density and evaporation play a part. Think about this, a maturely colonized piece of wood has incredible moisture holding capabilities. At least the mature pieces of colonized wood I observed did. You could fill a container full of this stuff and fill it full with water and 30 minutes later there would not be one drop of water in the container any longe. The consistency of the wood was light and loose. I could crumble a piece of this wood easily w one hand. A riparian floor in the spring time is typically a very cool temperature. The air that is in the east in the spring is warm. Per RR and the things he came to understand working the APL, the way a SGFC works is that cooler air is denser than warmer air. The density of this cool air that is near a riparian floor and brought in by a 40ish degree water temperature from a near by stream can only hold so much moisture. Therefor it is at or near 100% humidity. The warmer air that comes in is much less dense so FAE occurs while the humidity wicks from the more dense into the less dense air.......
What if there could be situations where incredible amounts of this humidity wicking situation occurs where very dense 100% humid air wicks into less dense air that is something like 85% or 90% humidity. Sometimes in the morning as the sun rises you can see it evaporate from the morning dew. Ovoid has shitloads of water available and in my observation will chase water. What if the secret key is a substrate that is super light in density, has unlimited access to fresh water, and has shitloads of evaporation?
Maybe typical cake recipes are too dense? Maybe it takes two years because the wood needs to be hollowed out first so it can act like a sponge?
Any thoughts or ideas?
Shoot this down and I'll come up with something else.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
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I'm not in a position to be experimenting right now and won't be for a while plus I only grow and consume legal species. I'm thinking a BRF/verm/sawdust cake colonized and dunked. This will simulate the core of a mature piece of wood. Then loosely wrapped in a dry paper cellulose fiber material such as the type sold as animal bedding. Probably 1 to 2 1/2 inches thick. Maybe hold it on there w some string? Then hydrate this cellulose with a mister to field capacity. The cellulose layer could simulate the very light spongy type rotten wood that is part of a mature bed. Throw that in a FC filled w moss, or more cellulose, or pearlite. Add as much FAE as you can without dehydrating too much. Bet the myc rips through the moistened cellulose and explodes in pins.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
#24672887 - 09/30/17 03:23 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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An example of the light airy cellulose wood I observed.

And this is a close up picture of the same mushroom just because it has some bad ass blueing.
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoideocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: Mike O Voidenski]
#26098034 - 07/09/19 12:05 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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I apologize, it might be a little late reopening this thread but i may have a little insight. I currently have a load of colonized mulch in my fridge taking off as we speak. I think Mike may have a point with a bacteria being a large factor here considering the areas they are found in. Starting with already colonized substrate/mulch may be the key or IMO using local OHIO River mulch is your best bet. I am currently in the process right now and i know fruiting can take forever. Another though is that the whole submerging and rehydrating the cakes will only disturb them and these little guys are finicky.I have disturbed my honeyholes to have none or few come back the next year. My thought is to have the best drainage as possible and to flood your container (with rain water) every day maybe for a week, as they fruit after long periods of rain. Back to Mikes bacteria discussion. Obviously there is bacteria in wood and soil but... FACTS: There is bacteria in rain. Say you only submerge the cake once, yeah it might stay hydrated like it needs to but it may not get enough of the bacteria it needs to fruit hence the amount of rain it needs to fruit. 1.Night in the freezer 2.A few weeks-2 months in the fridge watering very little maybe not at all depending how long its in the fridge 3.Out of the fridge into your fruiting chamber while flooding your highly drainable container every day for maybe a week (maybe even multiple times a day, it cant do it harm). I will post a thread when im successful. Weather replication+ Bacteria?= maybe some indoor Voids? Good Hypothesis Mike!
 
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Re: Ovoids fruiting? I'm trying to get my ovoidiocystidiata to fruit, need a little advice. [Re: snardoggys]
#28569914 - 12/05/23 01:15 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Hey this is my first post on here but I think the golden ticket to triggering fruiting is directly correlated to what the mushrooms under go in the wild, and that is distribution. Whether it be hard rain or flooding the mycelium has to reach a low enough temperature and become disturbed, this may not be the case with all situations but i almost guarantee this is necessary. I have had success with this, I think it has to do with the mycelium thinking it’s at risk of dying so it prompts the reproductive cycle of the mycelium. This goes hand in hand with it being a riparian mushroom naturally every growing season it is thrashed by floods and washed into piles of substrate, unless of course it doesn’t rain enough to flood, which doesn’t mean no fruits but more rain definitely increases fruiting frequency.
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