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Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms?
#22069034 - 08/09/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i personally get very confused on LSD but on DMT my mind isnt racing like a speeding bullet and im really relaxed so i can actually enjoy the trip, shrooms on the otherhand gets me really high with very slight visuals, i dont like heroic doses of shrooms though. I think a low dose of shrooms is closer to a DMT trip, not a breakthrough though, anyone agree or disagree?
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: GuruKhan]
#22069382 - 08/09/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well psilocybin is very very molecularly similiar to dmt and LSD is a pretty complex and synthetic chemical so the answer is pretty obvious to me.
Some might say they are all very different which is true, and others might say they all are similiar which is also somewhat true.
I would say higher dose mushroom trips are more dmt like, maybe low dose shrooms is more like low dose dmt though or something 
I don't like the term "heroic" dose, some people need more than others and or are going for different things.
I know many people believe lower doses of shrooms are a waste though and I generally agree.
Each experience with one individual psych can be vastly different. Some L is so clean people can sleep on it. Sometimes dmt or shrooms will cause racing thoughts.
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: GuruKhan]
#22069391 - 08/09/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DMT is like an amplified and abbreviated shroom trip. Psilocin is actually a form of DMT, so this makes sense. LSD is much more qualitatively different.
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Mckenna claims 8+ gram mushroom trips are indistinguishable from dmt
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#22069513 - 08/09/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Mckenna claims 8+ gram mushroom trips are indistinguishable from dmt
You can never fully get the rush of DMT, that instant feeling after taking a hit. Part of the DMT experience is the rushing sensation and high pulse but shrooms cannot emulate it.
That being said, reports of IV DMT are VERY similar to vaporized DMT. There are documented instances of people having IV psilocin and some anecdotes of vaporized psilocin/psilocybin combos. It seems like people don't actually break through like you would on DMT, but you are just encompassed by insane visuals for 10 minutes or so. There is no "hyperspace" reported by anyone who has tried it, versus most DMT reports having it. IV 4-AcO-DMT seems to match a DMT experience more so than IV psilocin.
And with that also being said, psilocybin is more similar to DMT. LSD is totally different, nothing like DMT. LSD visuals are much more melty and colorful, whereas tryptamines are generally sort of dark and geometrical.
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#22069532 - 08/09/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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for the purpose of the question, shrooms. since psilocin is 4-oh-dmt or is that bufotin... 4-ho-dmt...? too lazy to google, regardless there it is.
but on either lsd or shrooms, if you dose highly enough you can break through into hyperspace, quite similarly to ayahuasca. but it's an entirely different level of fucked.
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Salomon]
#22069543 - 08/09/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilocybin is similar to dmt so mushrooms alllllll the way. Massive doses are wayyyyyyy more similar to dmt than LSD is
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: GuruKhan]
#22069556 - 08/09/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Experientially, LSD is euphoric and flowing. Endless creativity and empathy. At times anxious, where thoughts would feel flighty and difficult to control. Othertimes, carpet-picking focus and clarity.
Shrooms feel wavy/throbing. At times difficult to control. Things would echo in my mind. It induced a lot circular thought processes in me.
DMT is profound. Visuals manifest with incredible beauty. I'd feel reborn after every trip. Cleansed. My thoughts were often engaged with some interesting and challenging ideas. Other times, I'd focus on strange hallucinations that felt urgently significant. I'd have feelings of otherness about 50% of the time too.
Each were very revealing in their own way.
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: GuruKhan]
#22069559 - 08/09/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have always had intense visuals from shrooms, OEV and CEV visuals, but I don't dose anything under 5grms so maybe that is why. LSD always makes me feel electric, I don't recall feeling confused, but I know plenty of people who have gotten confused on L.
Personally, I find mushrooms to be closer to deemsters.
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#22069566 - 08/09/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: Mckenna claims 8+ gram mushroom trips are indistinguishable from dmt
You can never fully get the rush of DMT, that instant feeling after taking a hit. Part of the DMT experience is the rushing sensation and high pulse but shrooms cannot emulate it.
That being said, reports of IV DMT are VERY similar to vaporized DMT. There are documented instances of people having IV psilocin and some anecdotes of vaporized psilocin/psilocybin combos. It seems like people don't actually break through like you would on DMT, but you are just encompassed by insane visuals for 10 minutes or so. There is no "hyperspace" reported by anyone who has tried it, versus most DMT reports having it. IV 4-AcO-DMT seems to match a DMT experience more so than IV psilocin.
And with that also being said, psilocybin is more similar to DMT. LSD is totally different, nothing like DMT. LSD visuals are much more melty and colorful, whereas tryptamines are generally sort of dark and geometrical.
IV 4-acO-DMT is really nothing like vaporized nn-DMT..the rush of V 4aco is 10x that of vaped dmt..even the peaks are much different. The peak of IV 4-aco is much more "WHOA WTF JUST HAPPENED TO ME" than nn-dmt.
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Re: Which is Closer to DMT? LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22069576 - 08/09/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are very subjective and can differ a lot person to person like I said earlier.
Which is why this is a silly thread, of course the two closest related chemicals are going to be more alike than a vastly different one
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