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Abdominal pain after eating starches
    #22068697 - 08/09/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have an Asian girlfriend and it seems like every time I eat Asian cuisine (rice, noodles, scallion pan cakes, oily dishes including fish and cooked vegetables) I get a discomfort in my lower abdomen. Sometimes it is very painful and other times it's just a slight feeling of pressure. Feels like I am trying to digest a brick.

When I am away from her and her family and I am at my home, I mainly eat salad with no meats. I'll add quinoa seeds and a small handful of cheese for the protein and I never get the pain or discomfort, even though the salads I eat are fairly large, 2 or 3 servings in one sitting. I have also been drinking a protein shake from Garden of Life, the RAW meal recipe mixed with whole milk, for lunch at work every day.

I feel like I am healthy, but the pain and discomforts concern me, and it only happens when I eat some kind of starch like the rice and noodle.

Thoughts/opinions??


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: HamHead]
    #22068761 - 08/09/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There could be lots of things that do it, and you probably need to narrow down what it is that's doing this to you. Celiacs comes to mind because I got diagnosed with it a while ago and it's trendy right now, but I'm sure there are a bunch of other things that are a lot more likely than that. Just for fun, see if gluten free starches like corn or potatoes do it to you too.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #22068824 - 08/09/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you're not aware rice is gluten free, I strongly suspect it's the combination of the high starch diet and lots of oil.

The protein shake may be having an effect as well, I recommend more fruit, nuts, and some yogurt to even out all the bulk and roughage.


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #22068901 - 08/09/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It depends on what the rice is prepared with. Lots of the asian sauces, like soy sauce, have wheat in them.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #22068953 - 08/09/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No it does not, all varieties of rice lack gluten.

That is true that it might be in the sauce, however I highly doubt that is the issue here.


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: HamHead]
    #22069059 - 08/09/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Have your Doctor run a blood test for celiac's disease if you can!


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #22069067 - 08/09/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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No it does not, all varieties of rice lack gluten.

That is true that it might be in the sauce, however I highly doubt that is the issue here.




The gluten containing grains are wheat, barley, and rye. I wasn't saying the rice itself had gluten in it in, but the rice is likely prepared with gluten containing substances since people don't generally eat white rice as is. Asian cooking is also heavy with different sauces, particularly soy sauce, which has fermented wheat in it. I doubt that's the problem too, but it's easy to mess with it since the OP mentioned that he doesn't generally eat starches other than a few quina seeds. If a potatoe or corn doesn't mess his stomach up, then it's not a problem with large amounts of starch, and he can work more on figuring out what's messing with his guts.

The main reason I mentioned celiac disease is because he specifically mentioned gluten containing starches that aren't part of his normal diet as a cause, and he left gluten containing starches out of the explanation of his normal diet. If he were eating bread everyday, that'd be a different story, but since he's not, he might as well have some bread to see if the gluten containing grains in particular may be causing the problem. It's easy to do, so why not.

It could also be other stuff in the asain food that he's not usually exposed to that's irritating his stomach. I don't think there's anything wrong with his diet of salads and protein shakes though. He said the problem only occurs with he eats the Asain food.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: yogabunny]
    #22069088 - 08/09/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Have your Doctor run a blood test for celiac's disease if you can!




This would be helpful, but you need to have gluten in your diet for a few weeks before blood work will show up positive for anti tissue transglutaminase auto antibodies even with celiac disease. The antibodies are only formed when gluten is present in the diet and they go away after a while, so if you don't eat gluten, you can get a false negative.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #22069129 - 08/09/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmm...very interesting & good to know.

I was completely off gluten both times I got tested.


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: yogabunny]
    #22069163 - 08/09/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The doctors usually don't mention that important detail. Measuring the antibody is a good way to judge the effectiveness of the diet in people who've been diagnosed. Mine went from being so high that the test was saturated when I got diagnosed to being below detectable limits after several months of being on the diet. I never even had any symptoms. My diabetic doctor caught it in a routine screening.

EDIT: I think the timeframe to get rid of the antibodies after eating decent amounts of gluten is on the order of a few weeks for most people, but I'm not confident on that. You might want to try eating gluten for a month and getting the blood test again if you're concerned.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #22069456 - 08/09/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not sure if it's the startches or the lack of fiber in the food that her family prepares, but I don't recall ever feeling this in my life.

Last year my diet was not so good, lots of frozen pizza, fast food, fast and easy things to cook which were all processed. After stepping outside the box, I realized I needed to change. I don't weigh a whole lot, 5'9" and 120lbs and have been thin my whole life, never weighing more that 135-140. Many of my family members are thin as well, not many over weight family members.

I heard about Soylent and really liked the idea of drinking my meals while still getting the nutrients required, so I looked into a meal replacement. For close to 5 months, I was eating only the RAW meal protein shake, morning, day and night and I felt great. Since probably Feburary this year, I have been adding solid food back into my diet, again, mainly salads and live, fresh foods and nuts with as little cooking or preparing as possible.

The quinoa seeds don't seem to bother me as I eat 1/4 cup per meal or salad I eat, 2 or 3 times a day. I bring water to a boil, add the seeds, turn the heat to low and let cook for 20 minutes before draining and putting on the salad. I have recently added chia seeds, 1 tablespoon mixed in with the cooked quinoa.


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: HamHead]
    #22069531 - 08/09/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I eat a similar diet to what you eat because the low carb stuff works well for my diabetes and celiac disease.

I still think you should test the GF diet thing. Get a loaf of bread and eat a few slices, or eat a bowl of plain pasta and see if it bothers you. Also, on a separate occasion, try a plain or buttered potato or some plain or buttered corn and see if it bothers you. If the potato or corn doesn't bother you, but the bread does, then you might want to suspect celiac disease, and mention it to your doctor. It can be weird with it's symptoms and how or if they present themselves, and it causes long-term damage to the duodenum, which is the first part of your small intestine right after the stomach. The treatment for it is a diet like the one you've been doing. The problem could easily be something else though. All you can really do for most of this stuff is eat things that make you feel good and don't make you feel bad, so for the long term plan, you should probably stick with what you're doing if it's working.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: HamHead]
    #22069704 - 08/09/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm not sure if it's the startches or the lack of fiber in the food that her family prepares, but I don't recall ever feeling this in my life.

Last year my diet was not so good, lots of frozen pizza, fast food, fast and easy things to cook which were all processed. After stepping outside the box, I realized I needed to change. I don't weigh a whole lot, 5'9" and 120lbs and have been thin my whole life, never weighing more that 135-140. Many of my family members are thin as well, not many over weight family members.

I heard about Soylent and really liked the idea of drinking my meals while still getting the nutrients required, so I looked into a meal replacement. For close to 5 months, I was eating only the RAW meal protein shake, morning, day and night and I felt great. Since probably Feburary this year, I have been adding solid food back into my diet, again, mainly salads and live, fresh foods and nuts with as little cooking or preparing as possible.

The quinoa seeds don't seem to bother me as I eat 1/4 cup per meal or salad I eat, 2 or 3 times a day. I bring water to a boil, add the seeds, turn the heat to low and let cook for 20 minutes before draining and putting on the salad. I have recently added chia seeds, 1 tablespoon mixed in with the cooked quinoa.





No wonder you're so skinny - those shakes only have like 100 calories a serving. If that's all you were eating, then you were definitely depriving yourself calorically.

Quinoa is gluten free so if that isn't bothering you but the gluten filled noodles and pancakes are, then I would definitely get tested for celiac.


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: yogabunny]
    #22070054 - 08/09/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm not sure if it's the startches or the lack of fiber in the food that her family prepares, but I don't recall ever feeling this in my life.

Last year my diet was not so good, lots of frozen pizza, fast food, fast and easy things to cook which were all processed. After stepping outside the box, I realized I needed to change. I don't weigh a whole lot, 5'9" and 120lbs and have been thin my whole life, never weighing more that 135-140. Many of my family members are thin as well, not many over weight family members.

I heard about Soylent and really liked the idea of drinking my meals while still getting the nutrients required, so I looked into a meal replacement. For close to 5 months, I was eating only the RAW meal protein shake, morning, day and night and I felt great. Since probably Feburary this year, I have been adding solid food back into my diet, again, mainly salads and live, fresh foods and nuts with as little cooking or preparing as possible.

The quinoa seeds don't seem to bother me as I eat 1/4 cup per meal or salad I eat, 2 or 3 times a day. I bring water to a boil, add the seeds, turn the heat to low and let cook for 20 minutes before draining and putting on the salad. I have recently added chia seeds, 1 tablespoon mixed in with the cooked quinoa.





No wonder you're so skinny - those shakes only have like 100 calories a serving. If that's all you were eating, then you were definitely depriving yourself calorically.

Quinoa is gluten free so if that isn't bothering you but the gluten filled noodles and pancakes are, then I would definitely get tested for celiac.




I was skinny before drinking the shakes.
Each scoop has 155 calories, so 2 scoops along with 2 cups of whole milk with ~100 calories per cup, so I was getting around 500 calories per 'meal'. Not enough my many peoples standards or the normal or ordinary diet. I'm not a very active person with little to no excercise, I don't lift any significant amount of weight but I do walk rather quickly. I deal craps/blackjack in a casino so no physical activity involved with work.

I'm becoming more aware that every time I eat certain foods with my girlfriend, the pain occurs. When I eat mainly salads and smoothies and yogurts, no pain what so ever and I always feel good after eating salads.

I don't really have a regular doctor I go to, never really needed to see one in my opinion. I'm 32 and I've eaten Asian food many of times before, but after switching to fresh 'live' foods, my system just can't seem to handle the 'dead' or cooked foods as easily any more. And I only notice the pains or discomfort after eating rice or noodles, and maybe anything oily. Had a piece of fish with a sauce the other day with a small bowl of white rice and shortly after, discomfort.

I hate to tell her that I can't eat their food, because it is all so tasty, but if it keeps treating my body like this, I believe I will have no choice.

I would like to say thank you to all for your inputs and recommendations.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #22079760 - 08/12/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Rice, noodles, pan cakes, cooked vegetables all contain starches that are easily broken into sugars. Into excess sugar.
These also contain a lot of fiber. Fiber in excess is very very bad. It bloats and inflames and abrades gut when in excess.

Sugar also needs minerals to be properly metabolized. Those sugars from those starches don't come with the necessary amounts of minerals.

Candida/yeast (and others) is a parasitic organism that feeds off of those sugars, even more easily because the body cannot metabolize it properly.
Parasitic organisms create toxins. And toxins are also created when body, immune system, kills those parasitic organisms. Those toxins also bloat and/or inflame the gut.

These parasites also manipulate you through putting their needs into your nervous system. So in times, for example when you "crave" sugary things, it might not be your body that wants and needs those sugars. So you'll also end up overeating.

Garlic, ACV, fermented foods, spices and other strong foods kill these parasites. And other things that help get rid of them. Here is one of the prime reasons garlic has been valued highly for thousands and thousands of years.

Another that can inflame the gut is cooked foods in general. As processing with excessive heat creates many toxins and ruins the food in other ways and makes digestion slower and harder.

There's also overeating. If you overeat there's more than your own body can use, making it easy for parasites to grow. And making digestion slower and harder because there's more than the body can manage with ease.

And there's eating too often. The gut needs time to rest and heal. Eating twice a day, rarely once or thrice, is enough. More than that is generally too often.

And its not about calories. The amount of calories you eat does not translate into the amount your body ends up using. The body does not need calories, it needs vitamins-minerals-nutrients and whatever else essential - none of those are calories or stand for calories.
There are no calories. Body needs vitamins-nutrients-minerals without toxins, not calories.
If you go the path of counting calories, then you will end up overeating. And other times you might end up undereating. Learn to listen to your body, not numbers. Your body knows exactly, but numbers are not your body so they don't and can't know anything.

And many more things...

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: nummi]
    #22080510 - 08/12/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Rice, noodles, pan cakes, cooked vegetables all contain starches that are easily broken into sugars. Into excess sugar.
These also contain a lot of fiber. Fiber in excess is very very bad. It bloats and inflames and abrades gut when in excess.

Sugar also needs minerals to be properly metabolized. Those sugars from those starches don't come with the necessary amounts of minerals.

Candida/yeast (and others) is a parasitic organism that feeds off of those sugars, even more easily because the body cannot metabolize it properly.
Parasitic organisms create toxins. And toxins are also created when body, immune system, kills those parasitic organisms. Those toxins also bloat and/or inflame the gut.

These parasites also manipulate you through putting their needs into your nervous system. So in times, for example when you "crave" sugary things, it might not be your body that wants and needs those sugars. So you'll also end up overeating.

Garlic, ACV, fermented foods, spices and other strong foods kill these parasites. And other things that help get rid of them. Here is one of the prime reasons garlic has been valued highly for thousands and thousands of years.

Another that can inflame the gut is cooked foods in general. As processing with excessive heat creates many toxins and ruins the food in other ways and makes digestion slower and harder.

There's also overeating. If you overeat there's more than your own body can use, making it easy for parasites to grow. And making digestion slower and harder because there's more than the body can manage with ease.

And there's eating too often. The gut needs time to rest and heal. Eating twice a day, rarely once or thrice, is enough. More than that is generally too often.

And its not about calories. The amount of calories you eat does not translate into the amount your body ends up using. The body does not need calories, it needs vitamins-minerals-nutrients and whatever else essential - none of those are calories or stand for calories.
There are no calories. Body needs vitamins-nutrients-minerals without toxins, not calories.
If you go the path of counting calories, then you will end up overeating. And other times you might end up undereating. Learn to listen to your body, not numbers. Your body knows exactly, but numbers are not your body so they don't and can't know anything.

And many more things...




You do not understand human metabolism whatsoever, maybe about 10% of that was sound advice. Calories are a measurement of the energy provided by a given food source.

More specifically a calorie is the energy required to heat 1 gram of water by 1 degree Celsius. The more commonly known Calorie seen on packaging labels is a kilocalorie, about 1000X that unit of energy.

Your liberal use of the word toxin to justify your statements further convinces me that you have no idea what you're talking about.


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #22081063 - 08/12/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You do not understand human metabolism whatsoever, maybe about 10% of that was sound advice. Calories are a measurement of the energy provided by a given food source.

More specifically a calorie is the energy required to heat 1 gram of water by 1 degree Celsius. The more commonly known Calorie seen on packaging labels is a kilocalorie, about 1000X that unit of energy.

Your liberal use of the word toxin to justify your statements further convinces me that you have no idea what you're talking about.



Oh... I understand it far better than you. You've shown as much with your sadly short response.
You attack me and my argument without providing any explanations for you opinions. You don't even ask me questions to further explain myself.
One thing you did provide is some textbook nonsense. I don't care for textbook nonsense. I care for truth and honesty and personal opinions - something you apparently are far from able to provide.

Unlike you, what I said I have verified with personal experience, but this of course says nothing to you because you cannot verify this statement.
And there's many others who have had similar-same experiences, many of whom have tried many different ways of getting rid of health problems before they finally found some real solutions. But you cannot verify this either because you don't know me, and since you haven't ever done personal research and experimenting regarding my said, you cannot verify whether what I said is true or not.

But I can verify what you have said is wrong. Because I come from roughly the same location you mentally are at (unawareness and blindness and victim of lies). And this again is something you cannot verify the truth of, because you do not know who I am, you know nothing of me and my life (though I've said and indicated some things; do you think I'm lying?).

For you to know with such certainty that what I said is false you must have tried the same things I have, and must have failed at gaining better health. We both know you have never tried the same. So there really is no point other than to cause pointless fighting and arguing regarding your truly ignorant and blind and skewed views present in your response.
Know your own limits. Or don't. Up to you. But if you keep bringing truly idiotic responses from ignorance and blindness and false understandings, then do expect me to bring the fact of it to light.

Calorie is a made up thing that can have its uses, it does have some uses, but it is very unreliable. And body doesn't work according to "calories", not one bit. Body has no idea what calories are.
The "calories" you eat in is not the amount your body ends up using.

What does the body need energy for? There's obviously the working of cells. But how can body get the energy using starches-sugars or fatty acids? It needs minerals and other substances to metabolize those starches-sugars and fats. If one is deficient of minerals and other essential things, then you can eat as much "calories" as you want, but all you will be doing with it is destroying yourself. Because the starches-sugars and fats you eat, if you are deficient of the minerals, etc., then the body will take them from within its own cells - from where they are needed for other things, thus creating health problems.
Also, to get rid of parasites, the body needs to expend extra energy.
If there are toxins in the body, then again the body needs to spend extra energy.
Etc.
Do your own research. And try out on yourself. Or don't and remain a victim of lies.

The 1g and 1C thing is 100% irrelevant here. You evidently don't have much clue how human body works, as you are introducing such irrelevance.

Please do some actual research and try out on yourself - something I have done, thus the reason I say what I say, and some things I've tried have turned out to be wrong.
You want to know whether I am right or not? Simple, as I've said already a couple of times - research and trying on yourself. It would take many months, possibly a few years, but you would find out that I am right in this. Up to you whether you increase your awareness or not. But until then, I already am aware.

Liberal use of toxin?
Define the word "liberal".
Define the word "toxin".
Ever heard of "context"? And different perspectives? No?
Because it is apparent that you have no idea what you are talking about. And apparently you have no idea what I am talking about, because you know nothing of any of what I said. You have no personal experience regarding what I said.

Let me guess, you'll give another offensive and provocative response? Please don't, and instead do research and thinking and then start trying out on yourself.
If you attack again, you'll merely prove I am right in my observations.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: nummi]
    #22088565 - 08/13/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you both for the responses.

With all of that being said, I know how I feel when I eat nothing but fresh, live foods such as fruits and vegetables, and it is good. It is a good state of mind that I am in while I eat these things and it makes my body feel good as well. When I eat other foods or processed foods, I cannot help but think that they are, not necessarily unhealthy, but that I could be eating something else that is more healthy. I'm aware the body needs many kinds of nutrients and minerals, and I believe many of which are in the fruits/vegetables/nuts/seeds that I seek. I know people have eaten the things of their culture for many years, and they have adapted to said foods. I, myself, was raised in a health-conscience family where good quality foods such as fruits and vegetables were sought after, because they are healthy.

Again, I thank each and every one of you for your input. This is very much a learning experience, for all of us. I will continue to follow and post, if it is relevant to anyone else or not, I'm willing to learn.


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: HamHead]
    #22091102 - 08/14/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have not read the entire thread, BUT!

A word to the wise on vegetable based protein shakes is they can be VERY hard on your system. That protein is extremely difficult to break down compared to animal sources and usually has some nasty side effects. I remember taking this "easily assimilable" protein shake from sunwarrior or whatever and it gave me the worst stomach pains and putrid farts that would make a skunk cry.

Drop the protein shake before you drop your girlfriend.


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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: MoxyOx]
    #22092372 - 08/14/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I have not read the entire thread, BUT!

A word to the wise on vegetable based protein shakes is they can be VERY hard on your system. That protein is extremely difficult to break down compared to animal sources and usually has some nasty side effects. I remember taking this "easily assimilable" protein shake from sunwarrior or whatever and it gave me the worst stomach pains and putrid farts that would make a skunk cry.

Drop the protein shake before you drop your girlfriend.




Never had any problems with stomach pains with the shakes I've been drinking, though the chocolate flavor recipe did give off some smelly farts. The vanilla flavor doesn't make me fart near as much of as often as the chocolate, so I've been sticking with it. Edit;The ingredients are processed at a temperature lower than 115 degrees (could be 118) so the enzymes are not effected like they are at higher temps. It is why they label it a raw meal because of these lower temps. No soy or whey, 100% vegan shakes.

I wasn't planning on dropping the girlfriend but rather bringing my own foods to their home. I just didn't want to make her mom feel bad for not eating any of the food they prepare.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #22106163 - 08/18/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If you're not aware rice is gluten free, I strongly suspect it's the combination of the high starch diet and lots of oil.

The protein shake may be having an effect as well, I recommend more fruit, nuts, and some yogurt to even out all the bulk and roughage.




Rice is gluten free but cereal grains and legumes contain a good bit of protein homology when it comes to toxic lectins. It won't trigger a celiac response in most people but it may trigger things akin to non-celiac gluten sensitivity. the interaction between cereal grains and the brush border is a good reason to avoid them particularly if you are symptomatic

If you're convinced it's the starch content alone you may consider getting tested for gut dysbiosis/SIBO. Gut microbiota play an important role in digestion and nutrient absorption. Loss of species diversity or overfeeding specific strains can produce adverse effects in the gut wand even on a systemic scale. I would not ignore the issue if you can find a good functional medicine practitioner or a gastroenterologist who will investigate this thoroughly. GI problems are often ignored but they spell disaster for long term health. I had chronic constipation and bloating for like a year and now I have CIDP and dyslipidemia. Translation: inflammatory systemic neuropathy and a one way ticket to an early 30s heart attack. I know it seems odd, but they are intimately linked to my gut issues. And particularly the overgrowth of gram-negative bacteria and a loss of intestinal barrier function

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: HamHead]
    #22107502 - 08/18/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This supplement will probably fix that.

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Re: Abdominal pain after eating starches [Re: yeah]
    #22143268 - 08/25/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, so after a few weeks of watching what's going in my mouth, I don't think it's the starches. I had a large bowl of pasta with no ill effects or pains. Have had small bowls of rice along with some asian foods with no pains. I have not felt any discomfort for the past 3 weeks or so. Still eating salads almost every day and on the days I do not, still no pains. I will post again if I feel a discomfort and try to remember what it was that I ate, if it occurs again.

I still want to say thank you to all for the comments and advice.

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