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First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. Advice? UPDATE 8.16.15. Help Needed. *Pics*
    #22068145 - 08/09/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've followed the PF Tek to the "T." I was just wondering if any experienced amateur (or professional) mycologists here might any advice upon seeing pictures of my first mycological endeavor in its current state.

Thanks in advance for any helpful insight, recommendations, or advice. Please, just ask if more information is needed.




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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22068166 - 08/09/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Is a lid normally on that? AKA did you just take it off for pictures?

They need more FAE and humidity. Is your perlite wet? Good job building your SGFC to spec :thumbup:, that's rare for new members.

How often do you mist/fan? Looks like you only need twice a day, one in the morning and one at night because they look like they're taking on a little too much water there. Fan for 20-30 seconds.

What strain is this? Did you dunk for 24 hours?


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22068288 - 08/09/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for your quick response, taGyo!

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Is a lid normally on that? AKA did you just take it off for pictures?



Yes, I only took it off briefly to snap the pictures. Oh, and the lid also has 1/4'' holes, drilled in a 2 X 2 inch grid pattern.

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They need more FAE and humidity. Is your perlite wet?



Just out of curiosity, what is it that indicates low FAE and humidity? Is it the mycelium growing over the layer of vermiculite? Thank you for pointing this out! Do you have any suggestions on how I may be able to remedy this?

Perlite should still be moist. I thoroughly rinsed and drained the perlite before adding it to the fruiting chamber.

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How often do you mist/fan?



I've been misting/fanning 3-4 times a day, and fanning (with lid, for 15-30 seconds) alone roughly midway through each interval between misting/fanning sessions.


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What strain is this? Did you dunk for 24 hours?



Back left & right are B+; center is Creeper; front left is Cambodian; and front right is Escondido.
I dunked all 5 five cakes for 24 hours, rinsed, and rolled in dry vermiculite which I had placed in the oven for 30 minutes prior to rolling.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22068363 - 08/09/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say mist a little less often.

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #22068390 - 08/09/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd say mist a little less often.



Thanks!

Would you also recommend misting once in the morning, then once again in the evening? If so, can you also recommend a fanning schedule between mistings?


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22068431 - 08/09/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Okay.

Here comes a long post while I explain everything. You seem like you're actually reading so here you go:

Fanning is not FAE. FAE is the passive act of air exchange, reducing CO2 levels and increasing O2. Mushrooms are closer to humans then plants so imagine if I put you in a room with a limited supply of oxygen and expected you to not only live but produce a Mona Lisa at the same time. You would suffer and probably die while drawing stick figures.

In the wild mushrooms are CONSTANTLY blasted by fresh air. There are very few places on Earth that are 100% humidity all the time. Mushrooms like fluctuation, this is what they're used to.

I've done a few cakes and a bunch of monotubs. You don't want it to be WET honestly. You want it to get a little dry before you mist again. Pins form from water evaporating on the surface. How do you think I knew you were over-misting and recommended that you cut down? Because those cakes look like they're getting loved to death. Without a proper environment the cakes won't pin.

DO NOT FAN IN BETWEEN MISTINGS. Fanning is to quickly destroy the environment so the fresh air coming in will have to pull more water from the perlite (Which you should also be misting lightly) to restart the humidity. This gives your cakes a jump start on the drying process and also wicks away excessive moisture from the cakes.

The reason why they're growing out like that past the dry verm layer is because they're getting over-saturated which is telling them they're not supposed to pin yet. Mushrooms don't like overly wet environments. Your SGFC should be 6-12" away from the wall and 6-12" away from the floor. In the middle of the room is ideal.

In the future the oven isn't necessary. But use it if you like.

DON'T ROLL FOR THE SECOND FLUSH.

Are their holes on the bottom? Raise that higher. Do you have qt jars?


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22068524 - 08/09/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

elevate your fc so air can come up from underneathe


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22068800 - 08/09/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Here comes a long post while I explain everything. You seem like you're actually reading so here you go:



Yes! Thank you for noticing; I've spent hour upon hour, night after hour, scouring threads to ensure that I was doing things properly, trying to do without bothering more experienced cultivators such as yourself, taGyo. Even I have come to resent the staggering abundance of "noobs" posting incessantly, without doing an iota of research, simply looking for quick answers. I imagine it's enough to make anyone here with solid experience cynical to say the least!

Anyway, to answer your question: yes, I have 1/4" holes drilled on all six sides of the terrarium; though, unfortunately, I don't have any quart-size jars with which to prop up my terrarium--only the 1/2 pints shown beneath my setup in the first picture.

Also, I do have to say that I was very surprised to read your advice on not fanning between misting! I'll certainly heed your advice, but, just due to my previous research, I'm baffled at how many differences in opinion there are on what, seems to me, should be such a relatively simple process!

Thanks again for your time and insight, taGyo.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: cronicr]
    #22068819 - 08/09/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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elevate your fc so air can come up from underneathe



Thanks for the advice, cronicr, but, though it may be difficult to see in the picture, I do have my terrarium sitting atop 4 half-pint jars.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22068827 - 08/09/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22069061 - 08/09/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, I do have to say that I was very surprised to read your advice on not fanning between misting! I'll certainly heed your advice, but, just due to my previous research, I'm baffled at how many differences in opinion there are on what, seems to me, should be such a relatively simple process!



Take everyone's advice with a grain of salt on this forum until you hear it from multiple people.

Ask Cron about it :thumbup:

To clarify, mist and then fan 2 times a day and no fanning in between is what I'm talking about. You can fan in between with good FAE and damp perlite but it's just not necessary. The mushrooms do need a level of humidity, FAE and room temperature to do optimal.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22069986 - 08/09/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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To clarify, mist and then fan 2 times a day and no fanning in between is what I'm talking about. You can fan in between with good FAE and damp perlite but it's just not necessary. The mushrooms do need a level of humidity, FAE and room temperature to do optimal.



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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22070007 - 08/09/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, I do have to say that I was very surprised to read your advice on not fanning between misting! I'll certainly heed your advice, but, just due to my previous research, I'm baffled at how many differences in opinion there are on what, seems to me, should be such a relatively simple process!



Take everyone's advice with a grain of salt on this forum until you hear it from multiple people.

Ask Cron about it :thumbup:

To clarify, mist and then fan 2 times a day and no fanning in between is what I'm talking about. You can fan in between with good FAE and damp perlite but it's just not necessary. The mushrooms do need a level of humidity, FAE and room temperature to do optimal.



yep take a little bit of ":whathesaid:" and mix with a little":whatshesaid:" add a little :facepalm: and profit


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: cronicr]
    #22070040 - 08/09/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, I do have to say that I was very surprised to read your advice on not fanning between misting! I'll certainly heed your advice, but, just due to my previous research, I'm baffled at how many differences in opinion there are on what, seems to me, should be such a relatively simple process!



Take everyone's advice with a grain of salt on this forum until you hear it from multiple people.

Ask Cron about it :thumbup:

To clarify, mist and then fan 2 times a day and no fanning in between is what I'm talking about. You can fan in between with good FAE and damp perlite but it's just not necessary. The mushrooms do need a level of humidity, FAE and room temperature to do optimal.



yep take a little bit of ":whathesaid:" and mix with a little":whatshesaid:" add a little :facepalm: and profit



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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #22070950 - 08/10/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ha! Thanks, Cron!  :takingnotes:


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    #22070959 - 08/10/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22071061 - 08/10/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Good job building your SGFC to spec :thumbup:, that's rare for new members.





Hey,I resemble that remark! It was just this one mistake, I swear.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. Going to drill a new one now.) sigh

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OP, dude, that's a great looking setup. Patience, man, it's hard but it's the key. Enjoy the journey, brother. Looks like you're one of us, who will one day be one of them. You got the bug, too.

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Ajahn Don]
    #22071548 - 08/10/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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OP, dude, that's a great looking setup. Patience, man, it's hard but it's the key. Enjoy the journey, brother. Looks like you're one of us, who will one day be one of them. You got the bug, too.

:nothingtoadd:




Thanks, Ajahn! I've been trying to go about everything with as much scientific precision as possible. After my dream of one day being involved in the sciences was shot down by high school chemistry--bad math skills  :foreheadslap:-- it's nice to be doing something involved and challenging again. Ha! And I thought making complicated cocktails was fun! :laugh:


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22071772 - 08/10/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trust me, I understand. My math is limited to counting to twenty-one and one-and-a-half-times-the-bet. I suck at math. I score off the charts in everything else, so this is a nice challenge.

I've become very respectful of the guys here, and the cubes. This is a lot more sophisticated and complex than I had ever thought. I love it when guys say use the search engine, on reflex. Sure, there are jerkoffs who jump in and ask basic questions, and even more who don't listen when they're told. But we all have to admit that much of the details is only found within threads. Shit, I'm still looking for the post that Frank said when to add gypsum so it doesn't sit in a pile on the bottom of the container. I got it right once, but forgot what I did and what he said. Just one example of dozens. I just redid my SFGC, not only because I drilled 3/8" holes (D'oh!), but because I'm sure the holes were clogged at the bottom by dust because I used some good advice to rinse in the shower since I don't have a sink hose, but the advice didn't include to be sure the dust is rinsed out so the holes don't get clogged. Now, would some smart-ass tell me how to search for that little bit of information? :lol:

I've read countless threads, and often the advice is repeated. At my advanced age, nothing is repeated so often I can't forget it. Just a lot to learn.

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Ajahn Don]
    #22072332 - 08/10/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The grow chamber looks good. Not sure how you will get better fresh air exchange. Looks like a humidity issue. Cakes love being wet. I would mist them more often. Let the water build up on them.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: tahoe]
    #22072412 - 08/10/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The grow chamber looks good. Not sure how you will get better fresh air exchange. Looks like a humidity issue. Cakes love being wet. I would mist them more often. Let the water build up on them.



Thanks, Tahoe!

Could you suggest a way to retain more humidity? I can't say for sure, because I haven't physically checked, but the 4" of perlite appears to still be moist.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22072440 - 08/10/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

just keep up with the misting, that gives you all the humidity desired right on the surface of your cakes


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    #22072617 - 08/10/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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just keep up with the misting, that gives you all the humidity desired right on the surface of your cakes



Once in the morning, then once in the evening, as taGyo specified, correct?

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22072626 - 08/10/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

that will cut it, if you are around in between and they look dry give them a squirt


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: cronicr]
    #22073382 - 08/10/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The key is when they look dry. If they're wet, don't mist them.

Verm glitters when it's wet and then looks more like sand when it's not.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22074359 - 08/10/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The key is when they look dry. If they're wet, don't mist them.

Verm glitters when it's wet and then looks more like sand when it's not.



Gotcha. Well, I'm certainly going to stick with the twice-a-day schedule for now--as long as you think it will suffice and more or less produce the best possible flush--until, possibly, I'm a bit more experienced and can more accurately discern when and when not to mist/fan on a more frequent basis (if necessary). Also, like so many others here, I work full-time, so misting/fanning twice a day is certainly more convenient. In fact, I think I recall reading somewhere that RR was working 12+ hours daily when he designed the SGFC, and so designed it to only require a couple of misting/fannings a day. At least I think that's correct... I don't recommend taking my word on it though. I'd hate to misquote RR and/or spread faulty information.

One last thing: I've also taken the liberty of moving my setup to what I hope will be a more conducive location for FAE. The previous location being in an empty closet--with the door to the closet being open at all times, of course--to a corner of the same room, 6-8" from the wall, and, still, on the wall opposite to the floor AC/heat vent. Think this will help much? The only thing is that I have to leave the door to my study closed at all times, thanks to my three indoor feline hellions . . .  :starecat:


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22074548 - 08/11/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It will help a lot :thumbup:

Closets, door open or not, are one of the worst places to grow an SGFC.


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    #22074834 - 08/11/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It will help a lot :thumbup:



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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22074932 - 08/11/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

just monitoring this thread :laugh:

I like the look of your sgfc and gotta give you props for doing a good job. It amazes me how many first timers get it way wrong, cause they think they know better.
I kinda understand, when I joined the site it wasn't so geared towards newcomers, and I was reading teks in old fishtanks and shit.

I have a feeling once your set-up's dialed in, those bad boys are gonna explode :laugh:

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    #22075426 - 08/11/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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just monitoring this thread :laugh:

I like the look of your sgfc and gotta give you props for doing a good job. It amazes me how many first timers get it way wrong, cause they think they know better.
I kinda understand, when I joined the site it wasn't so geared towards newcomers, and I was reading teks in old fishtanks and shit.

I have a feeling once your set-up's dialed in, those bad boys are gonna explode :laugh:

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Thanks for your kind words and encouragement, friend!

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22075494 - 08/11/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22075518 - 08/11/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Minor Update:
Not much change in the status of the cakes just yet, but I thought I'd upload a few pics all the same, if for nothing else, to show the new location.



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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22075533 - 08/11/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Have it away from that wall, middle of the room while you're home if you  can :thumbup:


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: tampaman]
    #22075538 - 08/11/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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looks like christmas :smile:



Yes, but unfortunately without the presents :mushroom::rofl2:


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22075577 - 08/11/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Have it away from that wall, middle of the room while you're home if you  can :thumbup:



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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: tampaman]
    #22075601 - 08/11/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Can SGFCs be dialed in?


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Ajahn Don]
    #22075973 - 08/11/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

they already are!


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: spacechildo]
    #22077432 - 08/11/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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they already are!



They're made to work in any environment with great air flow.


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    #22080860 - 08/12/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

UPDATE 8.12.15 AKA "Tiny Pins"

DAY 9:
Exciting news, fellow cultivators! It is now day 9 of my 5 cakes ([2] B+, Creeper, Cambodian, and Escondido) occupying the SGFC. I woke this morning to find tiny pins!

I very briefly removed Creeper to snap a couple of pictures:



Any thoughts, advice on how to proceed?

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22080912 - 08/12/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Keep doing what you're doing.

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: taGyo]
    #22081143 - 08/12/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quick Question:

By leaving the central AC fan setting to "on" (versus "auto"), could this help with FAE in any way? And possibly even help increase and/or retain humidity?

Note:
Keep in mind that I do have to keep the door to my small cultivation room/study closed at all times due to feline saboteurs, which, I imagine, is certainly restricted the air flow to this room.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22082368 - 08/12/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

size of the room? you should be fine...


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #22082626 - 08/12/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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size of the room? you should be fine...



I'd say about 11' X 11'. So I should be fine to leave it on?


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22082646 - 08/12/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also, there's only one floor vent in the room.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22082659 - 08/12/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think you should be fine without.. that's a good size. any windows?


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22082682 - 08/12/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You can try rigging up a subsonic air pump for a fish tank. Worked very well don't have to worry about FaR so much as fresh air is being pumped it. Also helps with humidity as your not having to open tub as much. Justadvicve from past experiences.


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: niclovinz10]
    #22082693 - 08/12/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

FaE.


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    #22082743 - 08/12/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think a lot of people here would advise against that.. a proper SGFC doesn't need an ultrasonic.. automation will get you flamed... it's easier, cheaper, and more efficient than spendy electronics to just drill some holes in a tub and stuff with polyfil... you're doing fine as is. tweaking things won't help.. considering OP is a first timer I doubt he has the knowledge to make a better fruiting environment than a tried and true method that was developed over years... just stick to your schedule and you'll be fine! :thumbup:


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #22082752 - 08/12/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think a lot of people here would advise against that.. a proper SGFC doesn't need an ultrasonic.. automation will get you flamed... it's easier, cheaper, and more efficient than spendy electronics to just drill some holes in a tub and stuff with polyfil... you're doing fine as is. tweaking things won't help.. considering OP is a first timer I doubt he has the knowledge to make a better fruiting environment than a tried and true method that was developed over years... just stick to your schedule and you'll be fine! :thumbup:



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    #22083305 - 08/12/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Like a said just advise from past experiences. Everyone can agree everyone has there on methods and results. It's your tub, it comes down to what you find that works best for you and your mushies. It's all trial and error.


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    #22083780 - 08/12/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think a lot of people here would advise against that.. a proper SGFC doesn't need an ultrasonic.. automation will get you flamed... it's easier, cheaper, and more efficient than spendy electronics to just drill some holes in a tub and stuff with polyfil... you're doing fine as is. tweaking things won't help.. considering OP is a first timer I doubt he has the knowledge to make a better fruiting environment than a tried and true method that was developed over years... just stick to your schedule and you'll be fine! :thumbup:



:whathesaid:



Thanks for keeping me on the right track, guys! :takingnotes: :thumbup:


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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22100393 - 08/16/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

UPDATE 8.16.15

Well, fellow cultivators, it's been nearly two weeks since I introduced my five BRF cakes into the SGFC. My two B+ cakes seem to be faring pretty well and seem as though they might be ready to be harvest within the next few days, but I'm a bit concerned about my other four cakes (Creeper, Cambodian, & Escondido)

As you can see in the pictures, my two B+ cakes (in the back) seem to be maturing at a more-or-less reasonable rate. On the other hand, my Creeper, Cambodian, & Escondido BRF cakes are growing at a much, much slower rate; though, as you can see, they possess many more pins. Which leads to my question: What should I do?

It seems logical that the more pins a cake possesses, the longer they will take to mature, but should it really be taking this long? As I said, they've all been in the SGFC for nearly two week... Do they look healthy? If so, should I simply continue to be patient? Should I dunk them again?

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Re: First Grow. Pictures Of Cakes After 6 Days In SGFC. [Re: Dr. West]
    #22100455 - 08/16/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

damn, you got some sick clusters there! :shocked:

if the cakes feels light I would set them in a saucer with water and let them drink for half a day or so.
that's some pretty heavy pinsets to support, the cakes are gonna need water.

other than that just keep doing what you're doing and be patient.


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    #22100604 - 08/16/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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damn, you got some sick clusters there! :shocked:

if the cakes feels light I would set them in a saucer with water and let them drink for half a day or so.
that's some pretty heavy pinsets to support, the cakes are gonna need water.

other than that just keep doing what you're doing and be patient.



Thanks, spacechildo!

I meant to mention it in my update, but I have noticed a slight bluing of the (aerial?) mycelium on some of the cakes; which can be an indication of dehydration, correct?

Weight-wise, it might just be me, but the cakes don't quite seem heavy or light--more in the middle, maybe leaning a slight bit more toward the light slide...  :facepalm:  :justdontknow:

Based on the pictures and what I've said here, would you go ahead and put them in a saucer of water? If so, would you also do it for the B+ cakes?

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    #22100987 - 08/16/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Were they dunked for at least 12 hours? If so, they're fine and should have a nice flush within a couple days. If they weren't dunked then yeah I'd set them in a saucer if water.  Very nice pin sets.


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    #22101252 - 08/17/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Were they dunked for at least 12 hours? If so, they're fine and should have a nice flush within a couple days. If they weren't dunked then yeah I'd set them in a saucer if water.  Very nice pin sets.



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What strain is this? Did you dunk for 24 hours?



Back left & right are B+; center is Creeper; front left is Cambodian; and front right is Escondido.
I dunked all 5 five cakes for 24 hours, rinsed, and rolled in dry vermiculite which I had placed in the oven for 30 minutes prior to rolling.




Edited by Dr. West (08/17/15 01:23 AM)


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