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Cannabis is a key to self reflection.
    #22067719 - 08/09/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sure, their are many various other use's for this wonderful vegetable but for me this is by far the most important one. I used to smoke it in copious amounts for "fun" not sure how I did that anymore. Nowadays when I partake I cogitate to the highest capacity & as a reward of completing the self reflection task I may then indulge myself with my favourite music or grab a pen & start writing or whatever. What a wonderful plant :heart:

Is the mass consensus here the same? if not please share what you personally believe to be the most important aspect of the Cannabis experience.

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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: caman]
    #22067948 - 08/09/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I, like yourself, used to think you can know yourself thru weed, but now I actually think pretty much the opposite. For me it's an awesome chill out thing. It enchances mind, makes stuff more enjoyable etc.

On the other hand, I get somehow locked in my counsciouss mind (ego-self). Don't get me wrong, it's awesome even for solving practical problems and in many other ways, but for me this definitely ain't self-reflection, but a tiny part of my individuum. We are so much more than our minds.


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: jcop]
    #22067994 - 08/09/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

th self-relection was often too much for me, turning into thought loops and paranoia :thumbdown:

not for me I guess, still an amazing plant


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
    #22068089 - 08/09/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Vsnares.Zappa said:
th self-relection was often too much for me, turning into thought loops and paranoia :thumbdown:

not for me I guess, still an amazing plant




Man I had this happen all the time. Since I startend working out, meditating and doing yoga, my ability to handle that stuff has grown though.


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: hayabuser]
    #22068129 - 08/09/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Vsnares.Zappa said:
th self-relection was often too much for me, turning into thought loops and paranoia :thumbdown:





Exactly. Thought loop is not self-reflection and neither is paranoia, they are both weapons of the ego to keep status quo IMO. Saying this, it probably means that ego was repeled into a corner and is fighting back. Only you'd have to break those patterns to get somewhere, which I don't feel like doing at all when I'm stoned...  :stoned2:


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: jcop]
    #22068822 - 08/09/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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jcop said:
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Vsnares.Zappa said:
th self-relection was often too much for me, turning into thought loops and paranoia :thumbdown:





Exactly. Thought loop is not self-reflection and neither is paranoia, they are both weapons of the ego to keep status quo IMO. Saying this, it probably means that ego was repeled into a corner and is fighting back. Only you'd have to break those patterns to get somewhere, which I don't feel like doing at all when I'm stoned...  :stoned2:




I would respectfully argue that the thought loop/paranoia is a by-product of being overwhelmed by the self reflection. I myself dealt with the same thing for a moderate duration, It took me awhile to train myself to surrender & gracefully accept it. You nailed it precisely when said "you need to break those patterns" to get past the ego's defense mechanism against the self cogitation/reflection.

Big thanks to you all for your replies thus far :thumbup:


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: caman]
    #22069544 - 08/09/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Enhances music a lot for me. Since doing lsd, it's quite similar, makes bass sound great.


Edited by musicbandit (08/09/15 09:13 PM)


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: musicbandit]
    #22069996 - 08/09/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

wowee, weed is good, weed is fine, weed really blows my mind!


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: dixienormous]
    #22070065 - 08/09/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There's nothing like a j and some meditation after a long day of working.


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    #22070067 - 08/09/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It really depends on the amount. Things get straight up psychedelic if you eat enough.
I enjoy smoking it daily and don't notice too much tolerance.
I also like to reflect daily and get into a "meditative" state while baked out of my mind.

Weed definitely will make you think about what you're doing in general. If you're being a shitty person it'll bite you.
This is why it causes paranoia for a lot of people myself included sometimes.


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: caman]
    #22070090 - 08/09/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

An entire joint to the face and some soft music (or none at all) is the way to do it right after work. Ultimate meditation


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: caman]
    #22070434 - 08/10/15 03:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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caman said:
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jcop said:
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Vsnares.Zappa said:
th self-relection was often too much for me, turning into thought loops and paranoia :thumbdown:





Exactly. Thought loop is not self-reflection and neither is paranoia, they are both weapons of the ego to keep status quo IMO. Saying this, it probably means that ego was repeled into a corner and is fighting back. Only you'd have to break those patterns to get somewhere, which I don't feel like doing at all when I'm stoned...  :stoned2:




I would respectfully argue that the thought loop/paranoia is a by-product of being overwhelmed by the self reflection. I myself dealt with the same thing for a moderate duration, It took me awhile to train myself to surrender & gracefully accept it. You nailed it precisely when said "you need to break those patterns" to get past the ego's defense mechanism against the self cogitation/reflection.

Big thanks to you all for your replies thus far :thumbup:




I feel like we are basically saying the same thing here. I had to reconsider my 1st post thanks to Vsnares.Zappa. :smirk:

without doubt
weed can help
weed can hurt

I insist on weed often shutting down emotions IME though. I prefer mushrooms for self-reflexion.


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: jcop]
    #22070461 - 08/10/15 04:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It can be a helpful tool for "self-reflection," but it can also be difficult to make any significant life-style changes when you're just smoking weed and "thinking" all the time. In my experience, it is only useful for self-reflection when used in moderation. Daily or habitual use makes me way less productive, which means that the "self-reflection" is ultimately wasted. I've always been a deep thinker and analyzer of everything even when sober, so these days I actually find cannabis more useful for clearing my mind rather than evoking thought.


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #22071135 - 08/10/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Weed is cool when I have my shit together. Any other time it just makes my thoughts spiral outta control


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22071316 - 08/10/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Eggtimer said:
It really depends on the amount. Things get straight up psychedelic if you eat enough.
I enjoy smoking it daily and don't notice too much tolerance.
I also like to reflect daily and get into a "meditative" state while baked out of my mind.

Weed definitely will make you think about what you're doing in general. If you're being a shitty person it'll bite you.
This is why it causes paranoia for a lot of people myself included sometimes.




I came here to say exactly this. Nice posting, eggtimer.


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Re: Cannabis is a key to self reflection. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22072247 - 08/10/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
Weed is cool when I have my shit together. Any other time it just makes my thoughts spiral outta control




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