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taGyo
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: ICEMANOO9]
#22068460 - 08/09/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The problem is how thick his sub is now. FAE and humidity will suffer because of it. If you want to cut it down a 1/2" or an inch higher that might still work. I just don't want him to get a shitty pinset and tiny mushrooms from low humidity and overall FAE.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: taGyo]
#22068546 - 08/09/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The whole sub is like 3.6 inches thick..1.1" of perlite, 1.5" of hpoo, and maybe 1.1" of coco coir..
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22068560 - 08/09/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You want 4" of perlite in that tub.
Did you use perlite in the mix with the grains?
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: taGyo]
#22068637 - 08/09/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: You want 4" of perlite in that tub.
Did you use perlite in the mix with the grains?
It sure fucking sounds like it.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22068652 - 08/09/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I meant in that green tub, and nope, the grains are mixed with horse poo and vermiculite ( 8.5:1 I think), perlite is the layer under it..in the transparent tub, there's maybe 5" of perlite, it should be about 12 litres or so..
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22068658 - 08/09/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd cut that bin down honestly.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: taGyo]
#22068670 - 08/09/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd cut that bin down honestly.
For all the work of cutting it down why not put holes in it and make it a mono?
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: Inocuole]
#22068675 - 08/09/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: taGyo]
#22068715 - 08/09/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by Inocuole (08/09/15 06:29 PM)
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22068913 - 08/09/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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AuxCZ said: The whole sub is like 3.6 inches thick..1.1" of perlite, 1.5" of hpoo, and maybe 1.1" of coco coir..
do you have perlite in the green box? that's no good. perlite is only for fruiting chambers like the sgfc. not in or under the substrate itself.
I would just make the green box into a monotub, its not gonna do well in the big clear plastic box.
Here is how to make a monotub its real easy its just 6 larger holes in 1 tub.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: spacechildo]
#22068929 - 08/09/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah perlite is a volcanic rock, it's basically like feeding your substrate glass. At best it'll do nothing, at worst you could find a piece in the stipe of a mushroom and it won't be yummy.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: Inocuole]
#22070535 - 08/10/15 05:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, I'm getting kinda lost in there..I'm afraid that the green tub is too smal for mono, it has only like 5 inches of free space above the substrate..I like the idea of SGFC more, mainly after my 2 hours long "Gotta make holes journey"..The air in my room has like 55% of RH most of the time, so I think that sgfc would be better, but idk..Also, I drew the layers of the substrate
 , the perlite here is to serve as a water supply, I saw a lot of people to do it like this.. At this speed, the substrate will be 100% colonised propably tommorow, so I have like 24 hours to think..
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22070575 - 08/10/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay well, people used to throw perlite in the bottom of their subs or those kits you order sometimes theres perlite in the bottom of those too, so much bad information still flowing around.
Perlite is not used in the substrates for mushrooms, if you are growing plants like chilli and shit its great to throw in the mix with whatever you use for that but not mushrooms.
Basic Principles of a Monotub Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) Spawning to bulk and fruiting
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: Yerow]
#22070577 - 08/10/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dont get me wrong, it will still fruit but your next trial, try to do it by the book of some updated TEK
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: Yerow]
#22074931 - 08/11/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Got my first pin (still during colonisation,moved it to SGFC when I noticed it)
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22075428 - 08/11/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Primordia all over the place.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: taGyo]
#22075767 - 08/11/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks man, the whole thing looks like this now

Additionaly, I just have one question about misting, I saw a lot of people disagree on how I should mist during pinning and fruiting, one group says that I should not mist at all, after I see first pins/primordia, next group says that I should mist only the walls of the casing, and the last group says that I can mist even the substrate, just lightly, no direct stream etc...I heard that this can cause aborts, but noone is really sure what is right..I thought about misting the walls and perlite only, but idk if it will be enought..
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22075793 - 08/11/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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all sounds whack to me, just mist when the cakes no longer glisten with moisture even if there's pins, knots, mature fruits or whatever. mist the cakes and the perlite, walls doesnt matter.
the stuff you are reading must be really old, back when fruiting chambers didnt have holes you couldnt mist as much because the fruits would be sitting sogging wet and then abort.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: spacechildo]
#22076329 - 08/11/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright, so I misted it, both substrate with myc and perlite, and then fanned it for maybe 60 seconds..I'll do this maybe 4 times a day, is there something else I should be worried about? Those pins signalise that the harvest is near, and I don't to fuck anything up now..
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22076361 - 08/11/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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still a bit till harvest...
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