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AuxCZ
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Pinout and fruiting - heat problems
#22067347 - 08/09/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi guys. So, my 3 layered box (perlite;Hpoo+colonised corn+vermiculite+gypsum;coco coir+chalk+vermiculite) finally colonised, but I have kinda problem with heat. I want to start fruiting already, mycelium is forming something that I think could be hyphal knots, but it's like 104 degrees outside during the day, and 85 degrees in my room, and that sucks for fruiting afaik. Even during the night the temperature doesn't go under 68 degrees..Ideal would be like 75 degrees, but this heatwawe I'm experincing now should last at least 10 days or so..The only colder place I have is basement, it's like 73 degrees during the day and 66 during the night, but that place is MOLDY, humid, and nasty as hell, and thanks to FAE all nasty stuff from the walls and so on would be inside the fruiting chamber..Thanks to all those problems with temperature I feel like I'm kinda fucked..So, what would be the best thing to do now?
Thank you. Images: Colonised stuff
 Macro to what I think could be hyphal knots
 That moldy ass basement I'm talking about
 Ikea box in bigger ikea box with perlite
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067366 - 08/09/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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can you take another picture of the substrate?
That first picture make me go
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: Yerow]
#22067393 - 08/09/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What the fuck is going on with that fruiting chamber? Where are your holes? Those are primordia but they won't get far if that's how you're fruiting them.
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AuxCZ
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: Inocuole]
#22067415 - 08/09/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are no holes, I'm fanning it every 5 hours...where should I make them? And brb, taking another pic.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067435 - 08/09/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fanning is not FAE though, it's just fanning. They like fresh air. Did you just make up this design or what? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542
I'm sure you can figure out from that where your holes need to be.
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AuxCZ
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067460 - 08/09/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, if I get this right, the holes should be like...everywhere..Well, not a problem, for some reason I thought the fanning is enought.. aand more images
Edited by AuxCZ (08/09/15 02:23 PM)
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067495 - 08/09/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Probably actually better of not making that big tub into a SGFC, and instead, making the small one into a mono. But it appears it's already colonizing holyy crap it's colonizing in fruiting how did I not see that---- colonizing isn't supposed to be happening anywhere near perlite. That green tub should have a lid on it and be somewhere with very little air movement. Fanning out a colonizing tub is... well, I can guarantee nobody who knows what they're doing told you to do that.
At this rate I don't know what to recommend because you have a colonizing substrate in an unfinished fruiting chamber, inside of ANOTHER unfinished fruiting chamber, in something that's somewhat like fruiting.
I'll need a minute on this.
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AuxCZ
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067535 - 08/09/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I put it into the big tub today, it's been colonising for 6 days with a lid on - just like you said.. and at least 3 people told me that the best moment to switch from colonising to fruiting is when about 60-80% of surface of the substrate is covered in mycelium..
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067562 - 08/09/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Current progress is : The green tub has it's lid back on, and is sitting on a shelf. I made some kind of stand for the big, transparent tub, and now I'm measuring the grid for all those holes..(Oh, and all that wet perlite is in another big ass container)
EDIT: the big tub is now proper SGTC I hope, it has it's stand, like 5" tall, and it's full of holes in 2" grid...so, should I put that green tub in the SGTC (with perlite, of course), or should I let it colonise completely (With black lid)?
Edited by AuxCZ (08/09/15 03:30 PM)
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067846 - 08/09/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well let it finish colonizing and then put it back in the SGFC I guess. Those giant walls are going to prevent the fruiting chamber from working correctly though.
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AuxCZ
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067915 - 08/09/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So..you thing that I should cut down the plastic sides of that green tub to like (substrate + 0.5") ?
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: Inocuole]
#22067918 - 08/09/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Get a hot knife and cut that down so it's right at substrate level. Your perlite is useless right now.
Edited by taGyo (08/09/15 04:00 PM)
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AuxCZ
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: taGyo]
#22067934 - 08/09/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll let it colonise completely (outside the transparent tub), then I'll cut the sides of the green tub. Also, the perlite wasn't there during colonisation, I put all that perlite there today (and it wasn't in the transparent tub)
Edited by AuxCZ (08/09/15 04:04 PM)
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22067974 - 08/09/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: taGyo]
#22068050 - 08/09/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't butcher that green tub! Imo all you needed to do was make a proper SGFC out of the big clear plastic tote. Holes 2" apart all six sides. Leave the green tote as is its fine.
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: ICEMANOO9]
#22068058 - 08/09/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So tell me, he of 125 posts in three years, how will he get FAE into the big green tub?
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: ICEMANOO9]
#22068059 - 08/09/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Once it's completely colonized just slide that substrate out onto a black plactis trash bag and put in your FC that way. That is a nice tub that way you can save it for another use
It would only take a few posts and common sense to figure that out
Edited by ICEMANOO9 (08/09/15 04:43 PM)
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AuxCZ
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: AuxCZ]
#22068199 - 08/09/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Current status of SGFC:

I'll let then substrate colonise completely, then I'll cut down the walls of the green tub, and then I'll put it into that SGFC with all that wet perlite...And it looks like that fanning and misting four times a day is optimal..
Well, it looks like we maybe solved the "I am faggot for trying to design my own tek" (I don't mean it sarcastically), but I still have the heat problem (and thank you guys, you saved my grow I think (Again, this is not sarcasm)..
(and that green tub costs like $1.2 ,I don't have problem with slaughtering the everloving shit out of it (read as: Cutting it with hot knife), I can have another 10 of these tommorow.)
Edited by AuxCZ (08/09/15 04:51 PM)
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: ICEMANOO9]
#22068213 - 08/09/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
ICEMANOO9 said: Once it's completely colonized just slide that substrate out onto a black plactis trash bag and put in your FC that way. That is a nice tub that way you can save it for another use
It would only take a few posts and common sense to figure that out
Because he can't get multiple tray uses out of that green tote?
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Re: Pinout and fruiting - heat problems [Re: taGyo]
#22068234 - 08/09/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your right about that and ita a perfect size too. Maybe not cut it down SO deep that way it can hold a thicker sub?
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