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i think im finally ready for a trip
    #22067300 - 08/09/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

my life has sucked ass for the past 20 years and im ready for something life changing

very surprised I still reside here on this planet

too much of a pussy to end it

stone cold alchy

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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge] * 4
    #22067329 - 08/09/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Take a lot of your chosen psychedelic and get settled in to a nice Internet forum. Make sure you spend your whole trip arguing about something inane, because that's the only way you'll truly learn something.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22067334 - 08/09/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Never have reserved tripping to pass time by. Aid people in other countries to give yourself the new landscape


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22067337 - 08/09/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

DMT is bomb my man and its super easy to get with one day shipping. Other than that I would say LSD or 4-ACO-DMT IVed. Just be careful with the last one its the most intense out of them all.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge] * 2
    #22067342 - 08/09/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Take a trip to yosemite. Bring along an ounce of shrooms and a quarter sheet of lsd, along with a handful of benzos and an ounce of weed. Go into the woods, hide your phone in the bottom of your bag in waterproof pouch, and let it go on from there.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22067361 - 08/09/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Take a trip to yosemite. Bring along an ounce of shrooms and a quarter sheet of lsd, along with a handful of benzos and an ounce of weed. Go into the woods, hide your phone in the bottom of your bag in waterproof pouch, and let it go on from there.



great advice..i have no connect for shrooms so ill have to grow my own which ive done before


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge] * 1
    #22067418 - 08/09/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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learning sponge said:
my life has sucked ass for the past 20 years and im ready for something life changing

very surprised I still reside here on this planet

too much of a pussy to end it

stone cold alchy

any suggestions?



See a psychologist and look into antidepressants. Psychedelics will make depression worse if it is the only means of treatment.

Pick a destination, save $1/mile, and backpack to said destination. (I hope that's the kinda trip you meant). Pick up hobbies, go back to school, and seek engagement with life.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22067426 - 08/09/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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learning sponge said:
my life has sucked ass for the past 20 years and im ready for something life changing

very surprised I still reside here on this planet

too much of a pussy to end it

stone cold alchy

any suggestions?



See a psychologist and look into antidepressants. Psychedelics will make depression worse if it is the only means of treatment.

Pick a destination, save $1/mile, and backpack to said destination. (I hope that's the kinda trip you meant). Pick up hobbies, go back to school, and seek engagement with life.





Are you being serious?



No, don't go to a doctor and go on antidepressants. Psychedelics can fix depression in 6 hours, I swear by it. There is medical research to back it up too.

You need to use them as a tool if you want it to be a medicine. If you choose to use it as a recreational drug then it will be just that, a drug.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22067441 - 08/09/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I hate the sorry ass faggot decisions ive made in my 34 years of existence


I want to change and be a loving person

my mom is pushing me to SSRI's

been 'scribed never tried 'em

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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22067472 - 08/09/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Check out the documentary "I am"


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #22067498 - 08/09/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

dont go to one of those brain butchers that just want to pump you up with pharmaceuticals that dull your mind.do exactly what gottaloveacid suggested. it will change you for the better


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #22067499 - 08/09/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dude dont believe any pill pushers propaganda they're the ones that pay off the government to keep weed from being legalized (they call it donations to the politicians I call it bribes). But ayahuasca can definitely cure depression it would be used in the united states if it was not in public domaine. That goes for most drugs weed you can't patent mushrooms mescaline DMT and even LSD is all in public domain which means any company can sell it so nobody makes a large profit. Plus he would take those god offal pills on a daily basis whereas ayhousca is a one time thing. So you do the math there's far more money to be made in pills than a single dose of a publicly owned plant.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22067506 - 08/09/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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See a psychologist and look into antidepressants. Psychedelics will make depression worse if it is the only means of treatment.






:lol: No.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22067529 - 08/09/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The documented evidence is inconclusive at best. It can diregulate depressive tendencies as a SHORT TERM effect. Anecdotes will only get you so far because there are many stories from the other side too...

Im not saying they're definitely going to hurt him. I'm saying there are well researched paths on treating depression that we know work. A spirit guide is not a trained professional :shrug:

I'm not going to argue against a culture that distrusts doctors/government because there's no point. It's fairly depressing that you are all saying he should take an unresearched chemical to treat a life threatening situation.

Yes it's a field guided by capital like any other. If you resent psychopharmacology (yet conversely advocate mushrooms as treatment), stick to CBT or something. Thoughts of suicide are better confided to a professional who sees it day in/out, not an online forum for drug users/cultivators.

Either way, I hope OP finds relief.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22067541 - 08/09/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes. Im not saying therapy and psychedelics wouldn't be a good combo.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22067554 - 08/09/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It is quite conclusive for anxiety, depression, and OCD. All 3.


Anti depressants only work as long as you take them. Their effect is acute and extremely short term. Psychedelics work for 3-4 months at a time, even longer if the user did additional things to help their depression (lifestyle changes namely) which almost always happens anyways.


3 months of anti depression with the possibitliy of complete elimination with basically zero side effects, all within 6 hours? Yeah, I'll take that over 3 months of daily anti depressant use draining my body of life thank you very much.




The reason anti depressants are so common is because they have an easily explainable effect on the body, and they cure the common medically accepted cause of depression, low serotonin. That isn't really it though, and the scientists know that. The only thing preventing them from using psychedelics and harnessing their power (maybe even eliminating the trip itself for full medical use) is the law.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22067567 - 08/09/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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learning sponge said:
my life has sucked ass for the past 20 years and im ready for something life changing

very surprised I still reside here on this planet

too much of a pussy to end it

stone cold alchy

any suggestions?



Yes.  Have an experienced tripper with you.  You sound like you need a guide or shepherd


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22067569 - 08/09/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you're going to take some psychedelics, make sure you're in a good spot mentally.  The last time I took some psychedelics, I was in an okay spot, just annoyed as fuck at my situation at the time.  I spent that whole trip lamenting that my skin was attached to my bones because it felt so tight.  How appropriate that I didn't feel comfortable in my own skin.

I know that you want to make others happy, but you do what you feel is best for you.  Don't take life any faster or slower than you feel comfortable with.  Don't beat yourself up over the past.  Maybe making good memories going forward will help.  You don't need to start big, just start.

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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22067583 - 08/09/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Buddy, I resent pharma too. It's a bugeoning field with minimal research and is dangerous. CBT is WELL documented to treat depression.

I'd be amazed if you could find one reputable study supporting your claims (preferably with a sample size larger than 10 and if you wish to be so bold to claim long term effects, a 5 year study, by all means). I was digging to support such wishful thinking a few years ago myself.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22067614 - 08/09/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Unfortunately, there are no 5 year studies. PSychedelics have just started to begin opening for research, and the progress is slow because there is hardly any funding. The studies that do exist are extremely promising and convincing. Here is a study done with 15 people

http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/11/101/20140873.full


There are 2-4 other studies I am thinking of that exist out there as well, you could probably find them on maps. Look at robert carharrt's work.




Doctors want the most effective medicine with the least amount of side effects. Psychedelics is the best answer we have but it is illegal and controversial.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22068314 - 08/09/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's a lot of reading, looks like I have my weekend cut out for me :P seriously, thank you! This stuff gets me harder than porn.

I think we've reached an agreement. My point was that there's not a lot of research for psychs and it CAN actually make things worse. There are no guarantees in life, but CBT has much better findings in treating serious things like depression and suicidal tendencies. It's been studied long enough to gain funding (large sample sizes/long term studies) and still shows positive results.

It's dangerous recommending someone to use psychs when they are chronically depressed and suicidal. But, I used them for depression and anxiety with mixed results and by all means, find what works for you. Set and setting will be especially critical.

Thanks again for the info/replies and I sincerely hope OP and anyone reading finds what they are looking for!
EDIT: read the article, nothing to do with the treatment of anything. It talks about potential modes of effect as supported by fMRIs, which is cool, but not relevant. You won't find studies on treatment, unfortunately.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22068341 - 08/09/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Take a trip to yosemite. Bring along an ounce of shrooms and a quarter sheet of lsd, along with a handful of benzos and an ounce of weed. Go into the woods, hide your phone in the bottom of your bag in waterproof pouch, and let it go on from there.



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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22068420 - 08/09/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also a lunatic.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22068433 - 08/09/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It does sound like a lot of fun though.

Sleeping bag, food, water, toilet paper, drugs. Maybe a fishing rod..

Yep, sounds good.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: thewanderer25]
    #22068443 - 08/09/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22068458 - 08/09/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It does sound like a lot of fun though.

Sleeping bag, food, water, toilet paper, drugs. Maybe a fishing rod..

Yep, sounds good.




It sounds like a Zombie lunacy.  An ounce of shrooms and a half sheet?  You think that's a good idea?  I fucking dare you.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22068516 - 08/09/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It does sound like a lot of fun though.

Sleeping bag, food, water, toilet paper, drugs. Maybe a fishing rod..

Yep, sounds good.




It sounds like a Zombie lunacy.  An ounce of shrooms and a half sheet?  You think that's a good idea?  I fucking dare you.





Haha doesn't have to be all at once. It is just there if you want to take more or dose multiple days in a row or whatever. Taking all would be pretty damn crazy though


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22068548 - 08/09/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, that would be all at once haha.

At a place like Yosemite I'd want a couple days at least.. You'd need that much to deal with tolerance alone. I've always wanted to hike around Yosemite, I know it's massive but I there's not a whole lot of things I love more than nature and the peacefulness of it all.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22068669 - 08/09/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You know where I would want to to be with anything like that kind of dosage?  In my fucking bed.  I was incapacitated by 6 grams.  And I aint no lightweight.  They do seem to have been particularly strong but still........... a whole ounce?  Call me when you get back from Pluto.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Aravind Chitram]
    #22068700 - 08/09/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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im in the bay area, been looking for mushrooms since three months. no luck. i did not visit santa cruz yet. do you have nay ideas?



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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22069994 - 08/09/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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That's a lot of reading, looks like I have my weekend cut out for me :P seriously, thank you! This stuff gets me harder than porn.



Why does books make you hard man thats kinda wierd man... :porn:


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22070156 - 08/10/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You wanna actually find happiness in life?  Drugs will not cure it be it illegal or legal drugs you need to find true happiness.  Go for a run, or swim or lift some heavy ass weights.  You need to live for the blood rush.  If you really want to make a change do what I say.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #22070314 - 08/10/15 02:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I can do that for a short while before I just go right back to eating everything in my stash. Being a normal healthy person is hard. I'm a pretty damaged person but atleast I can keep friends and a meager job :shrug:

If I lose this one though I don't know what the fuck I'm going to do :sad:


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge] * 1
    #22070374 - 08/10/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Believe it or not, alcohol actually can cause more problems then it cures. Are you drinking daily?
I found out that I'm much better at dealing with my perceived problems without alcohol in my system.:shrug:

Unless by 'alchy' you meant 'Alchemy', then just make shit tons of gold and buy some happiness...:voila:

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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22070381 - 08/10/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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It does sound like a lot of fun though.

Sleeping bag, food, water, toilet paper, drugs. Maybe a fishing rod..

Yep, sounds good.




It sounds like a Zombie lunacy.  An ounce of shrooms and a half sheet?  You think that's a good idea?  I fucking dare you.





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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22070391 - 08/10/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ps, op i'm in the exact same boat. i've been yearning to change where i live and what i do. a change of scenery does the mind a lot of good. not just a single trip out into the woods high on drugs... sounds like you need to do something completely different.

that's all i really have to say, i've got the same problem[s] and don't know how to get to that point myself.


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Re: i think im finally ready for a trip [Re: 404]
    #22070638 - 08/10/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
It does sound like a lot of fun though.

Sleeping bag, food, water, toilet paper, drugs. Maybe a fishing rod..

Yep, sounds good.




It sounds like a Zombie lunacy.  An ounce of shrooms and a half sheet?  You think that's a good idea?  I fucking dare you.





yer getting too old, zappa. where's your sense of adventure?!



Not doing stupid shit like that is how I got old


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