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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22108360 - 08/18/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Not so sure.  Some condensation has dripped down on one of the tubs and the water was yellowing.  I dabbed it up this morning and cleaned the lid off.

Another tub looks a little weird to me.  It smells fine and the surrounding myc looks healthy but there's some questionable growth.  It's hard to tell from the pic but it's almost grey rather than white.



I might have some cobweb starting too.  I had a massive outbreak in some King Oyster tubs this morning that were spawned in a similar fashion.  My first cobweb outbreak so I'm still learning the early signs.  I guess tomorrow we'll know one way or the other.





looks like the tub i had go green yesterday


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22109803 - 08/19/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Is that the sub that was over hydrated?


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: insanemike]
    #22110087 - 08/19/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Whelp, no cobweb, no trich.  Still smelling fine.  I think I'm just being paranoid.

Going to case and fruit this afternoon :smile:


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22110112 - 08/19/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah that looks ab it off...

Cobweb:



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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: taGyo]
    #22110129 - 08/19/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I double checked it this morning.  I had cobweb in some King Oyster tubs yesterday I had to toss.

But it's my understanding that in high co2 environments cobweb has explosive growth.  Since I'm not seeing that from yesterday to today I'm assuming I was just being paranoid.


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22110150 - 08/19/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yup, it's high CO2.

Here was that cup before cobwweb:



Wrapped way too tight, no holes poked for GE.

Cobweb can be destroyed with a mist of H202.


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: taGyo]
    #22110154 - 08/19/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, my King's had trich too.  Beyond salvation.  I should have taken a pic for the how it shouldn't look thread :lol:


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22110161 - 08/19/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:rofl:


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: taGyo]
    #22117396 - 08/20/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Tubs are cased and fruiting.

Here's one of the tubs.  They're not taped so the imperfect fit gives air exchange out the bottoms.  You can barely make out the lack of condensation running around the edges of the tubs.



And here's a pic of my casing layer on the same tub.  These were put into fruiting conditions yesterday.  The casing is CVG, about 50/50 and a bit on the dry side.



Do the condensation lines look alright?  Does the casing look right?  To dry?  To wet?

Any advice or encouragement would be appreciated.


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22117636 - 08/20/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777/fpart/all/vc/1

It looks a little dry from my end. If the coir is dark brown it's fine, if it's light brown it needs a mist. Probably your camera though.`

Your top holes look good in terms of evap lines.

I see cube myc popping up :awesome:


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: taGyo]
    #22117671 - 08/20/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's medium brown.  Not like mud but not like dry dirt.  It was feild capacity substrate I added a few handfuls of verm too.  Basing it off Frank's dry side of feild capacity (but he was talking jiffy-mix).


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22117693 - 08/20/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:super:,

Jiffy and CVG are slightly different but it should be fine.


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: taGyo]
    #22129904 - 08/23/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Some visible pinning going on on the side of one of the tubs.  Should be pinning on the surface soon.

2 out of 4 tubs have signs of metabolites where water dripped down between the sub and the lining.  The other 2 look very healthy.


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22129969 - 08/23/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:salute:


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: taGyo]
    #22130221 - 08/23/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:flyhigh:


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22130229 - 08/23/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Some visible pinning going on on the side of one of the tubs.  Should be pinning on the surface soon.

2 out of 4 tubs have signs of metabolites where water dripped down between the sub and the lining.  The other 2 look very healthy.



nice man:stoned::thumbup:

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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22130249 - 08/23/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Needs more then one trial but yeah.


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22130257 - 08/23/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Colonization times were a lot slower than I'm used to with this clone.  But it was also really hot and I was experimenting with a bit dryer substrate than I usually use.

I don't know that I'll repeat this experiment.  If I get some sick yields I might but again I think my conditions are more dialed in than my last tubs.

Really this experiment doesn't show much beyond proof of concept.  Maybe I'll run some side by sides at some point.


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22130504 - 08/23/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Colonization times were a lot slower than I'm used to with this clone.  But it was also really hot and I was experimenting with a bit dryer substrate than I usually use.

I don't know that I'll repeat this experiment.  If I get some sick yields I might but again I think my conditions are more dialed in than my last tubs.

Really this experiment doesn't show much beyond proof of concept.  Maybe I'll run some side by sides at some point.




Colonization times will be slower because high nutrient always make myc slower, with low nutrient the myc is "in search" for nutes therefore it colonizes faster. Also Myc colonizes a bit faster with dryer substrates.


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Re: Hydrating Coir with Grain Dunk Water (B+ Grow) [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #22130651 - 08/23/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I think there's just easier ways to increase nutrition without affecting colonization times so much.  Higher spawn ratios and using less water in my grain dunk and prep so I'm not pouring so much off are the first to come to mind.

Nutrifying the coir itself, while apparently successful as far as contams go (and a fun experiment for that reason anyway) just isn't as efficient as other methods.

I have considered tossing my grains in a blender with some water to create more inoculation points and to make the nutrients more available.  I'd take the resulting sludge and use it to hydrate my verm (coir would be bucket teked).  Not really a new idea, eat's does something similar with his slurry tek.

My ultimate goal is to get BE up high enough that I can do one flush and be done as my fruiting space is a lot more limited than my colonization space.


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