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OfflinePatlal
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Do you believe in pseudo-sciences?
    #22066669 - 08/09/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Astrology
Tarot
Palm reading
Horoscopes
Parapsychology
Karma
Etc

Do you believe in at least on of the things I listed?
Do you believe in pseudo-sciences?
You may choose only one


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Patlal]
    #22066672 - 08/09/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think some of them have real merit in some ways but in an overall and literal sense, it's all garbage.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #22066676 - 08/09/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

there should be a "I believe that it is possible" option.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22066693 - 08/09/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Karma is true, and technically isn't even pseudoscience. First off, doing something bad will probably leave you feeling guilty, while doing something good will make you feel better. Also whoever you're doing anything to and those around will notice if you do good or bad things, and will treat you differently accordingly.


Because of that, doing good things will positively affect your future, and doing shitty things will negatively affect your future. It isn't any crazy spiritual/pseudoscience thing though.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22066702 - 08/09/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

rbalzer said:
there should be a "I believe that it is possible" option.




Nah, that should go without saying.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: DieCommie]
    #22066715 - 08/09/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean "pseudo"?


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22066720 - 08/09/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Astrology
Tarot
Palm reading
Horoscopes
Parapsychology
Karma
Etc

Do you believe in at least on of the things I listed?





you forgot the anti-gmo, anti-vaccination, holistic healing and chemtrails horse shit


I dont believe in it and I do believe the warning labels from things should be
removed for the self thinning effect on the herd


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22066772 - 08/09/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Stonehenge said:
What do you mean "pseudo"?




Instead of playing games by asking a rhetorical question you should just say what you think.  I know that you are anti-science from your posts, just come out and say it.


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OfflinePatlal
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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22066852 - 08/09/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Astrology
Tarot
Palm reading
Horoscopes
Parapsychology
Karma
Etc

Do you believe in at least on of the things I listed?





you forgot the anti-gmo, anti-vaccination, holistic healing and chemtrails horse shit


I dont believe in it and I do believe the warning labels from things should be
removed for the self thinning effect on the herd




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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Patlal]
    #22066906 - 08/09/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Naw I have argued in defense of some of them in the past but in researching them to better make my points I always just uncovered more shit that makes it all seem like a scam.  If there was any worth to them people lost touch with that long ago and what we have left is a cartoonish representation of primitive ideologies.



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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Patlal]
    #22066914 - 08/09/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nope.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Patlal]
    #22066955 - 08/09/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I enjoy astrology and tarot. I don't think they are scientific, but they are fun.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22066965 - 08/09/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think karma as a whole is true.

If you treat someone kindly/help them out, they, in turn, may help someone else and so on.

Does it affect you directly? Perhaps. By being nice you meet other nice people who in turn help you.

I dont think that it affects you in the way that some people think


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22066977 - 08/09/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Gottaloveacid said:
Karma is true, and technically isn't even pseudoscience. First off, doing something bad will probably leave you feeling guilty, while doing something good will make you feel better. Also whoever you're doing anything to and those around will notice if you do good or bad things, and will treat you differently accordingly.


Because of that, doing good things will positively affect your future, and doing shitty things will negatively affect your future. It isn't any crazy spiritual/pseudoscience thing though.




That isn't karma, that is cause-and-effect. 

Karma is when you die all of your lifes actions are weighed against you and it determines the kind of life you have in your next incarnation.  I personally don't buy the concept of karma, as it doesn't create a possibility to escape it.

One will always acquire bad karma in their lifetime, thus forcing them to reincarnate forever.  It is impossible to go through life without bringing some sort of pain or suffering to another life form.  You eat plants, it is a life form and you take its life to do so.  You kill a bug, whoops you're back here!  And for 122 life times (or some non-sense these "Gurus" spout).  Therefor, escaping reincarnation is impossible through "working off bad karma and doing dharma."

As well, if someone is a murderer in this life and is forced to live a life of suffering in the next- who is going to bring the suffering on that person?  Other people?  Then the person who brought suffering on the past-life murderer is forced to acquire bad karma, perpetuating the cycle forever.  It is a trap.


You believe in Karma but what about all the people who bring nothing but misery and suffering to this world and enjoy a lavish life of luxury?


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: JvF] * 1
    #22067007 - 08/09/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't believe in the classical definition of karma, to wit: some universal force that rights all wrongs. But I do believe there is a kind of social karma. If you go around being an asshole to people, they're going to respond in like manner.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Le_Canard] * 2
    #22067042 - 08/09/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I believe that pseudosciences exist in great abundance. Not sure that things like karma and tarot really qualify though, from what I've seen they aren't generally presented as being scientific.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22067068 - 08/09/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Le_Canard said:
If you go around being an asshole to people, they're going to respond in like manner.




I can certainly agree with that!


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #22067080 - 08/09/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

MrBlueYoMind said:
Quote:

Gottaloveacid said:
Karma is true, and technically isn't even pseudoscience. First off, doing something bad will probably leave you feeling guilty, while doing something good will make you feel better. Also whoever you're doing anything to and those around will notice if you do good or bad things, and will treat you differently accordingly.


Because of that, doing good things will positively affect your future, and doing shitty things will negatively affect your future. It isn't any crazy spiritual/pseudoscience thing though.




That isn't karma, that is cause-and-effect. 

Karma is when you die all of your lifes actions are weighed against you and it determines the kind of life you have in your next incarnation.  I personally don't buy the concept of karma, as it doesn't create a possibility to escape it.

One will always acquire bad karma in their lifetime, thus forcing them to reincarnate forever.  It is impossible to go through life without bringing some sort of pain or suffering to another life form.  You eat plants, it is a life form and you take its life to do so.  You kill a bug, whoops you're back here!  And for 122 life times (or some non-sense these "Gurus" spout).  Therefor, escaping reincarnation is impossible through "working off bad karma and doing dharma."

As well, if someone is a murderer in this life and is forced to live a life of suffering in the next- who is going to bring the suffering on that person?  Other people?  Then the person who brought suffering on the past-life murderer is forced to acquire bad karma, perpetuating the cycle forever.  It is a trap.


You believe in Karma but what about all the people who bring nothing but misery and suffering to this world and enjoy a lavish life of luxury?





Yeah, that is why I said I didn't believe it in the spiritual context



Those rich people are only rich in money, nothing else. Most people end up hating them and those who don't really do and only like them for their money. They also probably feel guilty as fuck about it too, so they aren't rich at all and their lives suck.


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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22067244 - 08/09/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I believe in acupuncture and osteopathy.

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Re: Do you believe in pseudo-sciences? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22067249 - 08/09/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Esp has been proven though its not reliable. The rhine experiments at duke university earlier in the last century showed that plus many people have experienced things. Astrology has some validity though modern science is hell bent on ignoring it.


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