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Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush?
    #22065289 - 08/09/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

When I cultivate using multi spores, every flush i get a different sub strain that gives me a different trip.

If I eat 5 grams from a certain flush I might get very fucked up in the head, but not have any visuals, other times when I eat just 3 grams from another flush I get very intense visuals and very little bodyload. Even though I'm using the same strain A+ Albino.

Maybe the variance in phenotypes produce different levels of baeocistin and other psilocybin analogs?


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: Aureus]
    #22065336 - 08/09/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush?



Yes, but not just every flush, during each flush from fruit to fruit there are varying genetics at play....

It's the random genetic lottery thing.....gotta love MS...

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When I cultive using multi spores, every flush i get a different sub strain that gives me a different trip.



Normal for MS...

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Maybe the variance in phenotypes produce different levels of baeocistin and other psilocybin analogs?



Yes, aka genetic randomness.....


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: PussyFart]
    #22065367 - 08/09/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I really don't think there's a noticeable difference between any of them in the quality of the trip so much as the potency. :shrug:  Without testing a species with a high % of baeocystin I obviously can't say definitively but I'm really more inclined toward thinking it's all in your head.


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: PussyFart]
    #22065385 - 08/09/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's so amusing, you never really know what's coming, with multispores every trip is unique.


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22065420 - 08/09/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe you haven't tried doses high enough. Cultivate multispore and take 5 grams or more, you will notice a very signficant difference from flush to flush.


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: Aureus]
    #22065421 - 08/09/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well that's weird because my APE and my AA+ both produce the same general sensation as brazillian variety, or wild picked field cubes..  :shrug:  I guess I'm just not a connoisseur enough to differentiate qualitative effects of an experience that relies mostly on how your psyche chooses to manifest itself.  I'd be way more shocked if you ever had the same trip twice.


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22065500 - 08/09/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe it's more of the 'set and setting' side of the coin that gives varying trips.

But ye. Every single shrooms load up different levels of actives ime.


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: pablokabute]
    #22065511 - 08/09/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Psilocybin and psilocin are going to boil down to the same general effect, with baeocystin being the only outlier that might influence anything.  So we have, at most, differing ratios of A & B, with C being metabolized into A.  At most this is going to result in more "polar" feeling trips than others with stronger objective effects, like body buzz or visuals, and trips that feel more well rounded.  That's at very most.  If we start talking about how such and such mushroom gives very introspective trips vs this mushroom which gives very active and happy trips, then we may as well stick our asses out a 30th story window and shit our credibility all over the traffic below.

If there's a difference between flushes of cubes I can't tell because it's got to be significantly less variable than how deeply different a person's psyche is, even from one day to the next.

In my mind, expectations are the foremost foundation of experience, and if you set those aside, a lot of things in life reveal themselves for how samey they all are.

I would like to establish that I do know that no two cubes are exactly as potent as one another, especially during MS, but potency is clearly not what we're talking about here.


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22065611 - 08/09/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I would like to establish that I do know that no two cubes are exactly as potent as one another, especially during MS, but potency is clearly not what we're talking about here.



:uppercut: there is your answer...mono culture or not


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: Aureus]
    #22065666 - 08/09/15 02:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It's so amusing, you never really know what's coming, with multispores every trip is unique.



That's often true regardless of whether or not you're growing from MS cultures.

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Maybe the variance in phenotypes produce different levels of baeocistin and other psilocybin analogs?



Considering the instability of some of these compounds it's always possible there are other actives that are simply too unstable to extract and/or identify using conventional methods.


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22065912 - 08/09/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I guess I'm just not a connoisseur enough to differentiate qualitative effects of an experience that relies mostly on how your psyche chooses to manifest itself.  I'd be way more shocked if you ever had the same trip twice.



If my 2cnts is wrth anything. Id agree that an individuals mind and body chem. Are going to be the greater factors in the degree and intensity of all the categories of a trip description


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: Aureus]
    #22067598 - 08/09/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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you will notice a very signficant difference from flush to flush.



Have you done any blind tests to confirm this, it would be very easy to set up yourself.


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Re: Do you think multispore cultures produce shrooms with different trips every flush? [Re: blackout]
    #22067746 - 08/09/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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you will notice a very signficant difference from flush to flush.



Have you done any blind tests to confirm this, it would be very easy to set up yourself.




Ahhh now we're getting to the juicy bits..


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