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    #22064075 - 08/08/15 08:56 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I started a bunch of grain jars a while ago, have some half gal jars as well.  problem is that I planned on using 4 half gal jars per tub and only 2 are ready, like really ready.  Im thinking I have to use them today because from what I read you don't want to let fully colonized grains sit for more than a day or two.  the closest other jar will be done in about 2 days..  What would you guys do? just spawn the 2 half gal jars = 6 quarts in a tub or make a mini mono?



More jars and my first tub:

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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22064129 - 08/08/15 09:13 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

i would g2g just because i'm a junkie but as for spawning i'd go with either 2 mini monos or just  one standard


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: cronicr]
    #22064165 - 08/08/15 09:21 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

you think two half gals would be enough for a standard? gotcha. for some reason I was thinking itd be a little small as far as substrate lvl, but because of that I was going to go with a 1:2 spawn to sub ratio.  You ever used 1:2 for PE?


also, since these were G2G infront of a 'hood, im nervous about doing it in my SAB, don't wanna lose this jar plus 4 more because I suck.  I think I might have to do that with my really full jar though.  I was also reading that you should only G2G like a max of 2 or 3 times with a certain batch, or is that not true


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22064195 - 08/08/15 09:27 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

that first jar looks a little sketchy but it may just be the pic. it looks like the bottom half is doing something different.

and i wouldnt really trip on letting a colonized jar sit for a couple days honestly. you dont want it sitting for a long time but ive spawned some grain jars after i saw little pins in one and it still did ok.


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22064209 - 08/08/15 09:30 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

4 qt's is plenty of spawn for tub, 1:2 is just what people liek to use you could go as far as 1:4 and still kick ass


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22064220 - 08/08/15 09:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

yea its just the actual jar, its really old and the glass is frosty :lol:

hmmm, they've been sitting for 2 days now fully colonized, I guess a day or two wouldn't hurt, but I just am nervous about losing them.  ah well, time to make a decision....

oh, I thought you wanted to use at least 5 qts, but I went with half gallon jars because I wanted more more more(that's why I cant use drugs)

oh, well that's why my first tub is small, because I used a bag, and I think only came out to a 1:1 ratio. will that make it produce more or less because of the amount of spawn content.


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22064239 - 08/08/15 09:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

well it will be more than if you had used less spawn but less than if you had used more bulk sub lol if that makes sense.

and if you have the tubs and the materials just make two tubs, one with the first two half gal and another later. you can to a 1:2 or 1:3 as long as your sub is at least 2 inches deep you will be G2G


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22064405 - 08/08/15 10:25 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

gotcha, I was gonna run all 4 half gal in 1 tub but I guess it would have been overkill.  I am definetley going to try it one time but for now, I guess ill pasteurize some sub and take it from there!

I know some of you fruit right after casing, do you find much of a difference between waiting or not?

and by the way, those quart jars were made from MS innoc, because I didn't have any agar started at the time, so I am REALLY surprised they actually worked and that the growth is so healthy.

making some grain masters tomorrow so I can G2G some more jars, but still nervous about g2g in my sab, tips?


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22064418 - 08/08/15 10:29 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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I know some of you fruit right after casing, do you find much of a difference between waiting or not?





depends on how deep the casing layer is, 1/4 inch r so i fruit right away, 1/2 inch or more i let it colonize a bit, also the material plays a roll for me, with peat i want to let it get a foothold first, coir i could care less


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: cronicr]
    #22064460 - 08/08/15 10:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

word.

tips for G2G? get one of those 110qt tubs, the real tall ones. best decision i ever made for g2g'ing and i had just finished building a smaller SAB and said fuck this after one attempt so that turned into my agar SAB cause it was perfect for it. 

go medium speed and steady and remember fortune favors the bold, this may seem dramatic to think while doing G2G but whatever. just dont get nervous and start fucking shit up.


oh yea and maybe try using pints as masters if youre having trouble handling the qts. i have done it a time or two and it worked well enough although i never really had problems with qts. def wouldnt try to make a half gallon master though


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22064552 - 08/08/15 11:06 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

gotcha cronic, I used jiffy so I figured id let it colonize before trying to fruit, about 20-30% before fruiting.

and g2g, I actually g2g with half gal masters my first time doing it, but with a hood.  I think ill try making some quart masters and then move up from there if it goes well.  I could get maybe 4 or 5 new jars out of a master.


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22064651 - 08/08/15 11:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I'd go mini mono.  I like to spread the risk over more smaller grows rather than have a few spectacular photo ops :wink:


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Re: new projects/grains/tub [Re: ShroominMe]
    #22067969 - 08/09/15 06:11 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)



The new tub from 2 half gal jars. I was thinking, does that jar look colonized enough to add to the tub? If it is I'd be able to add it about 6 hours from when I made the tub. What do you guys think? 1:2 ratio so far in the tub



All right. Moving this tub into fruiting. Other tub colonizing nicely
Started some new master jars as well as some regular MS jars that are pan cyan, really been wanting to have some of those lately.


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