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twighead
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22067484 - 08/09/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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First off: I hate this thread now, I think I should make that clear,
Second: What are you talking about?
Third: Stephen Hawking touts alien evil and corruption over written press throughout the nation! Discuss!
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zappaisgod
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: twighead]
#22067490 - 08/09/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Finally someone who can be as incoherent as akira.
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clock_of_omens
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22067502 - 08/09/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't say it was all. You said a few, I said it is more than a few.
Belief in certain gods leads to barbaric destructive behavior. Therefore those beliefs are dangerous. Not to mention stifling science and other such things.
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here. How could one use rationality to remove negative connotations from a power structure unless those connotations were irrational. Otherwise it would just be sophistry. Also there are instances when it could be argued that people should be controlled beyond their will to be controlled. E.g., the central plot point of The Day the Earth Stood Still.
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twighead
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22067516 - 08/09/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
zappaisgod said: Finally someone who can be as incoherent as akira.
I feel he so subtly prods us all to be all we can be
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akira_akuma
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: twighead]
#22067575 - 08/09/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
How could one use rationality to remove negative connotations from a power structure unless those connotations were irrational. Otherwise it would just be sophistry.
sophistry can't be rational? an argument can be fallacious, but can also be rational to employ.
for example, it might be rational to control people beyond their will to be controlled, but that doesn't make it right. you might save on costly damages to the power structure, but at the loss of freedom for the many whom don't support that power structure, whom will revolt.
it can be rational to kill for personal gain, but that doesn't make it right. other people will be threatened and they will not see it your way just because you think it's your right to make gain while others don't.
it depends on one's perspective. one's windfall is not always fruitful in the long run.
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clock_of_omens
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22067625 - 08/09/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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True enough. I guess I equate rationality with sound reasoning, but that isn't necessarily the case.
It seems to me that religious people use sophistry far more often. Their actions would be a rational response to their beliefs, but their beliefs are not based in evidence.
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akira_akuma
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: clock_of_omens]
#22067632 - 08/09/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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all for the cause of progress.
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clock_of_omens
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22067641 - 08/09/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I personally enjoy the progess back to barbarism and scientific illiteracy.
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akira_akuma
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: clock_of_omens]
#22067731 - 08/09/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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we are condemned to useless labor 'til from whence we came envelops us again.
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clock_of_omens
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22067764 - 08/09/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My labor excepted. There can be no more important endeavor than arguing on the internet.
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akira_akuma
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: clock_of_omens] 1
#22067835 - 08/09/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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one day the internet will become self-ware and you're going to fight the final boss; all this now is just training.
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clock_of_omens
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22067875 - 08/09/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds awesome.
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akira_akuma
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: clock_of_omens]
#22067902 - 08/09/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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fucking self-ware, bro.
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: Enlil]
#22069834 - 08/09/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm yeah that could be true but that's essentially what you are doing as well. If there is an eternity of non existence after we die then we will never know who is correct. By memories I was alluding to a soul but that is also something you cannot prove or disprove. I will state that I do not know everything because it is impossible too. So you may be right but since you do not know everything as well you will kinda just be the king of your castle. Which everyone is the king of their own castle.
I'd rather believe in something that fosters a sense of progression and care for existence. If I am wrong I still will of preferred this mindset for psychological reasons.
Edited by wigglewak (08/09/15 10:18 PM)
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: wigglewak]
#22069884 - 08/09/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow this thread really drowned in period blood, ay?
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: What do you think of these 4 stephen hawking quotes? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22069894 - 08/09/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I think so. Sorry for getting drunk and jazz talking about reincarnation. That is like one of my favorite things to do though.
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