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Delirious Dwemer
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Book recommendations
#22062042 - 08/08/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I'm new to spirituality and mysticism. I've always been very intruiged by that realm, however it wasn't as real as it is to me now.
I've discovered what I feel to be genuine spiritually and magic after some psychedelic experiences. I started using LSA and LSD to overcome addictions and mental illness. My life was lost,dark, detatched and fragile. I needed a miracle to save me from death. I was an atheist, but one day after lifting my head of from a pile of my vomit on the floor after being unconcious, I prayed. I prayed for days to find a way out.
I decided to look into morning glory, after my research I ordered some seeds and tried it out. My very first trip I saw Shiva, I saw me, as a baby connected to Shiva growing, i saw a dark figure that was me but it was detached from Shiva and I. Shiva was helping me grow into my true self.
The next trip I saw aliens, picking my pineal gland and communicating with me through touch. Then Vishnu was there, he told me I must accept a form of spirituality to heal. To trust myself for I know what is the right path.
I had never really known who Shiva or Vishnu were before this. I am just summing it up, but those trips were intense, I had another with aliens, many gods, demons, Vishnu, an exorcism when I thought I had died.
In my last LSD trip I saw platonic solids with rune-like symbols, I felt many dimensions, even dark ones I had to quickly leave. I lifted my arms to the sky and then touched my friend and said God, and right as I did that, he said Nut. He saw me around a fire as a healer.
I'm not going in to every detail, but I will write trip reports for this interested.
I have started collecting minerals and crystals because everything about this feels so right to me. I have experienced miraculous healing. I am just not vastly knowledgeable in the entire realm of this spirituality and magic. I want to learn.
So I am asking for those who are experienced to please recommend any books about spiritually,mysticism, Hinduism,crystal,mineral magic, runes,reiki and anything else.
Or PM me if you want to discuss more.
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HardTrippin
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Read PIHKAL and TIHKAL. They aren't spiritual per se, but they are very helpful for learning more about your mind and the psychedelic experience. You will get a good sense of how you can grow without needing an ego-death experience. Read the psychedelic experience by Tim Leary if you are interested in ego death and rebirth.
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Also, read Buddhist texts. Even if you prefer Hinduism because you believe in a God (or for whatever reason)the Buddhists have a vast wealth of knowledge about the workings of the mind, and how to grow spiritually (as do the Hindus).
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The Power of Now, Way of the Peaceful Warrior, Buddhism for Beginners
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Delirious Dwemer
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Thanks guys! I am open to any suggestions. I am very intrigued by Buddhism as well. I'll be adding these all to my list of books to buy.
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Be Here Now by Baba Ram Dass (formerly Richard Alpert)
If psychedelics got you interested in spirituality this is the best start.
Dr. Alpert was involved in the Psilocybin and LSD experiments at Harvard with Tim Leary. When it all hit the fan and they were fired he decided to go to India searching for answers and ended up changing his name and path.
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Delirious Dwemer
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Re: Book recommendations [Re: Speckles]
#22062234 - 08/08/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very interesting. I will check that out.
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I've found that spiritual autobiographies are particularly interesting and inspiring.
a classic is 'Autobiography of a Yogi' by Paramahansa Yogananda - i highly recommend it! it's based around his meetings with many saints and sages, primarily in India.
another autobiography I really enjoyed is the two-part one by Peter Mt. Shasta - "Search for the Guru" and "Adventures of a Western Mystic: Apprentice to the Masters" - also highly recommended!
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The bibliography will keep you busy for years if you avail yourself of it. It's like a zip file. One book alone, Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism has amazed me for 40 years. I based my doctoral dissertation on it and was in written communication with its author, Lama Govinda. That was just one book in the bibliography of BE HERE NOW which I've used and gifted since 1973. I even drove up the Sangre de Christo mountains on a steep muddy road to visit the Lama Foundation in New Mexico. Still the best tripping manual (Steve Durkee designed the art for the dilated eyes of the tripper). Read the first part before a trip, the core book during, and 'Cookbook for a Sacred Life' after the trip. This book changed my life. It will impart 'The Perennial Philosophy' and teach you the essential meanings of mysticism.
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Hello ol bastard witch doctor
I'd recommend the Bible
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Delirious Dwemer
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Re: Book recommendations [Re: blessed]
#22062394 - 08/08/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I definitely want to check those out, the spiritual autobiographies. Thanks!
Blessed, thanks but the bible is really not what I am looking for at all.
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That's cool. I mentioned the Bible because of it's power to change one's life Big Time. Good luck on your journey 
btw, sorry Delirious Dwemer, I got your name wrong in my last post.
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Re: Book recommendations [Re: blessed]
#22062779 - 08/08/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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blessed said: Hello ol bastard witch doctor
I'd recommend the Bible 
I was also going to say the Bible. Read the book of Revelation while tripping (but familiarize yourself with the rest of the Bible first) I don't think it gets much better than that.
I also recommend trying aminita muscaria mushrooms, they are far more powerful than things like LSD and LSA in terms of bringing you into union with the divine. But classical psychedelics like LSD (and especially mescaline in my experience) are much better for working on specific mental issues.
So I recommend using both types.
In addition to the Bible and other Christian texts, another book I recommend is called Lamedeer: Seeker of Visions which is a book written by John Fire a Sioux medicine man.
Learning about the native american view of the universe, with their unity with nature and their sacred rituals had a big impact on my spirituality. Basically get back in harmony with nature, that is one of the best ways to heal and grow spiritually. But read the book.
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Re: Book recommendations [Re: Deviate]
#22062808 - 08/08/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bringers of the dawn Secret teachings of all ages
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Delirious Dwemer
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I think due to my horrific constraining brainwashing Christian upbringing as a kid, I naturally stray away from Christian text. But hey, I may find it in me to check it out one day. Please specify why you guys think the bible is a good read and what it has done for you.
Muscaria is definitely a must for me when I can obtain it and feel ready. I'm no where near done with my psychedelic journey.
The native way of life, and beliefs are very amazing to me so that I will be checking out.
Thanks Shining Cosmos, and everyone else.
Edited by Delirious Dwemer (08/08/15 02:22 PM)
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Neither of them are Christian texts.
One is about frequency the other is a referendum of ancient esoteric science.
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Delirious Dwemer
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I was replying to the other recommendations from deviate and blessed for reading the Bible.
And saying thank you for your recommendations.
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Island by Huxley I love this novel, its a great read!
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Delirious Dwemer said: I was replying to the other recommendations from deviate and blessed for reading the Bible.
And saying thank you for your recommendations.
Well then just read the other book I suggested, it is written by a native american and comes from a completely different perspective to anything Christian.
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Re: Book recommendations [Re: Deviate]
#22066449 - 08/09/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who cares? By Ramesh balsekar
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Quote:
Delirious Dwemer said: I think due to my horrific constraining brainwashing Christian upbringing as a kid, I naturally stray away from Christian text. But hey, I may find it in me to check it out one day. Please specify why you guys think the bible is a good read and what it has done for you.
I have much I want to share but I'll try to keep it short. The Bible (if it's God is indeed true?, is a map, a training program, a teacher, a key and a book for everyone (believers and non-believers)
As I do believe in the God of the Bible I will naturally share from that point of view.
A MAP
Basically it tells how to find life, in the same way a map tells how to get somewhere. And like a map you and I may use to find an address, if we don't follow the map we won't reach the destination. Simple as that. For those that want to find 'Life' that the God of the Bible offers, one must follow it's direction. To not, is to stay lost (in the grand scheme of things).
A TRAINING PROGRAM
For those that desire to find this 'life', the Bible has teachings on how to walk the walk and talk the talk. Why do you ask? Well the Bible says to me that for reason out of my doing, I have become separated from God. This may seem unfair to you, I know many times I've wondered why a God of love would put me in such a situation. So as I begin to desire to find 'Life' I first am told that I am a sinner, and then the process is that God teaches me how to live a different life. One way to look at is before someone begins this journery they are walking in the dark, their sins stain who they are and the a lost and going in the wrong direction. The Bible is about turning these things around. Walking in the light, having the stain (and guilt) of sin removed, becoming found and now heading in the right direction.
A TEACHER
As the Bible says of itself, it is the word of God. That it is alive, and so on. Remember the karate Kid movies?. Let's say that you are Daniel-son, and that God is Mister Miyagi. But unlike the movie that Mister Miyagi (aka God) is not in the movie 1, 2 or 3, but instead writes down all that he want to teach you. All that he says (for training purpose) in one book. Now Mister Miyagi would need to make it so that you (Daniel-son) would learn your lessons in the correct order. or else Daniel-son would hurt himself. Sounds fair Mister Miyagi would be unfair to not cover all aspects in his book to his student. I believe the Bible does this (but more on that later).
A KEY
One thing the Bible will tell you is that in your sin you deserve death, a one in hell. Understandable people have a problem with that. I do believe there is a good answer to that, but what I want to share about is that God is stating some facts that he says is true. I may disagree with him but what he is saying is that to find and have this LIFE, one needs to accept what God is saying. Now not all will learn the same things or in their life time come to the full understanding of all God's ways. But I think that God has made away that is attainable. For example, the Bible says that the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God. Now this can be looked at in a variety of ways. Leaving the one pondering this point and feeling good towards God, or feeling mad at him. I think that what is missed is what God is doing when he make a statement like "the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God".
Imagine you came from a place where there are no bears or loins. You get a chance to see one for the first time and you take the chance. Remember at this time you know nothing about them. Would the person who shows you the cage need to warn you of the danger? Imagine the cage to have bars. Well based on what you don't know, you may want to stick your arm or head in the cage. The point I am making is it is a healthy thing to a fear of the bear or tiger. But then why is it a healthy thing to fear God. Well for starters, If this God is saying that your eternal existence depends on your accepting or rejecting his message he has made for you, that you better take it seriously. For the choice is Life (given only by God (this is something that you start to accept when the good fear kicks in)), or the other option is death (also made by and given only by God). The fear of God should be that you understand that God have given you a choice, and that those choices are eternal. It is a serious matter. Do you think Jesus dies for nothing. It's life in full, and Death in full. See now how some fear is a good thing?
The key is in when believed in and followed, the Bible becomes the key that opens the door to life.
A BOOK FOR EVERYONE (BELIEVERS AND NON-BELIEVERS)
Part of the choice that God is giving us is that there are ones that will choice death. In fact Romans 9 talks about how God has made a people destined for death, that's right he made a group of people that their only purpose in life is for destruction. You may say that's just wrong. I would say ask God why. You see Romans 9 mentions why. and in desiring understanding to why God would do so allows God to teach you something. He's been teaching me this point lately and I now better understand what God is doing. In fact I recognise some of these people in my life. But not only that, I see how they are fulfilling the purpose that God made them for. In my case, it's to love my enemies as the Bible commands.
Now remember what I said before about Mister Miyagi (God) and you (Daniel-son)? What if Daniel-son competitor was to get hold of this book he left for Daniel? Could Mister Miyagi write the book in such away that Daniel would understand and learn, but that the guy Daniel ends up fighting won't understand Miyagi's teaching and see the book as useless?
Well what do you think happens when one of these people (destined for death) read the Bible? will they find life? No, fact to those who ultimately chose death, the Bible will not hold any truth. This is because God has spread his message in the Bible so that it has truth for the believer and is a useless book to the unbeliever. God has it all covered.
To those that God knows will find life, he reveals the truth in his words
To those that God knows will reject life, they will see no life in the Bible at all (the truth is covered, hidden), and mark it off as a rubbish book. Fulfilling what God foreknew, and planed.
So I see two groups of people in the Bible
One God predestined for life, the other he made for death.
There could maybe be another group, maybe. These people would be in a position where they truly do chose their eternal home. Thing is it's made possible because of all that God has made. This group could exist. They would have no excuse for where they ended up for God has made life attainable, but death too. I could be wrong on this point, but I could see how it could fit in.
If it's just the two groups? it would be much like actors selected for a movie. Their parts and scripts are made before the camera rolls. The End movie would be this life unfolding with each actor playing their predetermined part in what God is doing in history, that is His Story.
Finally, I have had experience with the Bible that would maybe make some say wow, really?. But I won't share them now due to the length of this post already. Another time.
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Re: Book recommendations [Re: blessed]
#22123895 - 08/21/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Siddhartha" by Herman Hesse is a well respected text on buddhist ideas. It is based on the life of prince Siddhartha Guatama. Also the Bhagavad Gita may be up your alley, plus it is a quick read. If you read the Gita, do it at least three times - once as a story, another through the perspective of Arjuna and finally through the perspective of Krishna.
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Re: Book recommendations [Re: blessed]
#22123932 - 08/21/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zen physics
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LOL, The Bible..whenever you think of a chapter or Verse, just check it out online..youll be amazed by the Synchronistic Pathos that you can find just glancing at a single verse in the Bible..
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