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Mushroom ID-Is it edible
    #22061685 - 08/08/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Found this nice looking specimen in a field in South East louisiana, around the area where I found the moldy active one.
Not sure this is active, or even edible for that matter.
Mushroom is brown with a black underside



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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22061695 - 08/08/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

found another one



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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22061740 - 08/08/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I found two more larger ones that look similar but seem to be blueing a bit



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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22061853 - 08/08/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

good to see you've fully recovered :eek: :grin:

now its time to take an interest in making spore prints and posting said pic, taking pictures of the mushroom before you pick it and giving better descriptions of key features hard to see in pics


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #22061881 - 08/08/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the reply man.
What sorta features should I add to this post for an ID of these?
They do seem to have a blue-black bruising, and the one that i squeezed, turned extremely blue-ish and all the brown coloring on the cap changed to blue-ish black-ish.
Back when I used to search this field back in 2014, found similar lookimg active mushrooms that made me trip without any issues...
But I haven't ever been able to get an accurate ID.
And I'm also not 100% positive these are the same mushrooms as last year, so I'm hoping I could get some confirmation over here.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22061901 - 08/08/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

At the moment I have the mushrooms refridgerated in hopes of preserving them.
How long should they last refridgerated?
I was gonna oven-dry them, but I'd rather have them ready for consumption as soon as I can get a decent ID.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22061908 - 08/08/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

And sorry that I forgot to get a picture of the mushrooms before picking them.
They were growing in a field near lots of species of trees, the field was not wooded though, there were just scattered trees.
They seemed to be most present around Coniferious trees, which aren't very common in Southeast Louisiana, which might explain why these particular mushrooms aren't so common


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22062032 - 08/08/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Print it, looks like it could be a small Panaeolus cinctulus.

I keep seeing them with these cracked caps.


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With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22062152 - 08/08/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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mistacarter555 said:
I found two more larger ones that look similar but seem to be blueing a bit





Panaeolus papilionaceus


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22062153 - 08/08/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Blazeyy said:
Print it, looks like it could be a small Panaeolus cinctulus.

I keep seeing them with these cracked caps.




Noo way its a Cinctulus, they have distinctive rings around the cap. If anything its a P.cube because they got them gold caps.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: antity]
    #22062179 - 08/08/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys, thanks for the multiple ID's
It's a start atleast.
I know P. Cubensis is active, But I'm not sure I've seen many cubes that look like these.
They look in real life the same way they look in the pics.
Try looking closely at the stems in the pic, notice how they are orangish or VERY SLIGHTLY, but barely, reddish?
I just noticed that and I was wondering if that could give any clues.
Cubes or not, I'm wondering if they are active, or at least edible.
Even though the field isn't too far from a cow pasture, I don't believe there is any Cow dung in the field in which they were picked, whih is another indicator in my eyes that they might not be a P. Cubensis as one user suggested.
I'm not really all that familiar with the other ID's.
Are those particular species active, or atleast edible?
I did some googling but received mixed results.
Some websites say the panaeolus papilionaceus is active, others say if's not.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22062185 - 08/08/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

And how do I go about getting a spore print without damaging the mushroom, any tutorial videos available?
I've never done a spore print before, and am actually pretty curious on how to go about it.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22062263 - 08/08/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cut the stem off, place maybe a drop of water on white paper, place the cap of the mushroom gill down on the moist area of the paper, put something just heavy enough to keep it from folding in on top of the cap, Then wait at least 8 hours before checking the paper to see the gills outlined on the paper. The color of the outline is your spore print!


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: antity]
    #22062307 - 08/08/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Alright.If edible, will the mushroom used for the sporeprint still be usefull for eating?
Also is it possible to take a spore print and keep the mushroom in the fridge while doing it?
I really dont want it to go bad, but if need be, Ill spare a mushroom for the sporeprint.
After all one positive ID is better than one unidentified mushroom ^.^


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22062328 - 08/08/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

On google the results say Id need to have a mature mushroom with an open cap.
None of these have opened caps, and Im not sure they are mature, what should I do in this case?
Sorry for asking so many questions, I'm just really interested in ID'ing these mushrooms.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22062336 - 08/08/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: antity]
    #22062389 - 08/08/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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antity said:
Quote:

Blazeyy said:
Print it, looks like it could be a small Panaeolus cinctulus.

I keep seeing them with these cracked caps.




Noo way its a Cinctulus, they have distinctive rings around the cap. If anything its a P.cube because they got them gold caps.




60% of my cinct finds don't have the ring though.

And it's not a cube it's a pan species for sure.

Quote:

Untitled said:

Panaeolus papilionaceus





Is likely.


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: Blazeyy]
    #22062535 - 08/08/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Alright so I'm guessing you guys have it narrowed down to atleast a Pan species right?
Are the Pans active, or are they just edible?
I know it probably varies from species-to-species, but I'm still sorts curious as to whether most Pans are active.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: mistacarter555]
    #22065990 - 08/09/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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mistacarter555 said:
Alright so I'm guessing you guys have it narrowed down to atleast a Pan species right?
Are the Pans active, or are they just edible?
I know it probably varies from species-to-species, but I'm still sorts curious as to whether most Pans are active.




Panaeolus species that have tested positive either in trace amounts or average to highly active:

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Panaeolus affinis
Panaeolus africanus
Panaeolus bisporus
Panaeolus cambodginiensis
Panaeolus castaneifolius
Panaeolus chlorocystis
Panaeolus cinctulus
Panaeolus cyanescens
Panaeolus fimicola
Panaeolus lentisporus
Panaeolus microsporus
Panaeolus moellerianus
Panaeolus olivaceus
Panaeolus rubricaulis
Panaeolus tirunelveliensis
Panaeolus tropicalis
Panaeolus venezolanus






Active Panaeolus sp. noted in your area:

Quote:

Panaeolus cinctulus
Panaeolus cyanescens




Info on other actives in your area:

http://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area

Hope this helps


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: Mushroom ID-Is it edible [Re: antity]
    #22066216 - 08/09/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Cut the stem off, place maybe a drop of water on white paper, place the cap of the mushroom gill down on the moist area of the paper, put something just heavy enough to keep it from folding in on top of the cap, Then wait at least 8 hours before checking the paper to see the gills outlined on the paper. The color of the outline is your spore print!




i would cut the stem off.  i would place it face down and leave it for at least two or three hours.  if you're just looking for a color indication thats usually enough.  if you're trying to determine between really really dark brown and jet black, you need to wait til you get a fairly good print, which can be overnight.  it just varies depending on your specimen.

i wouldn't put water on anything except maybe the top of the cap, and only then if it started out almost too dry already.  water will keep it decomposing, and keep any grubs already in it happier, which is something to avoid if possible.

i certainly would not put anything on the mushroom itself.  if it dries/shrinks a bit in the process, it doesn't hurt anything, and you really don't want the gills in contact with the paper.

practice a few.  its not like you're getting graded on it, so if you screw it up, no harm no foul, just try again.


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