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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: TEAMSESH]
    #22081514 - 08/12/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Teamsesh, I'm talking about mescaline hcl which is a white powder, not dried cactus or anything. I don't know how it's extracted or whether it's made in the lab but it's just mescaline pure and simple.

You basically mix the powder with water suck it up with a syringe (without the needle) and then squirt it in there. Using some Lube on the syringe helps I think but I don't know if it's strictly necessary. I experimented just with water the other week and there's really nothing to it, it's piss easy to do. Because it goes straight into your blood stream the mescaline goes a lot further which is a good thing considering how much it cost me - about £40 ($60?) for a gram. It's almost doubly effective - I think 300mg should feel like about 500mg if I took it orally from what I've read.

Teamsesh, from your response I guess anal sex isn't your thing, either giving or receiving. That's perfectly alright. Personally I've always wondered what it feels like at least now I can go some way to answering that question..... :grin:


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: musicbandit]
    #22081860 - 08/12/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nah not really my thing I like taking shits tho.
you know that early morning shit that good one.
man straight to the vain awesome but EyeV sounds better.
you are probably buying DIY mescaline.
I could make that stuff easy . Nit saying I am or ever would but you catch


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: TEAMSESH]
    #22081910 - 08/12/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think 300mg is too much for a rectal dose. Read more info. I've read 50-150mg is enough. You can redose after 30 min. Also you must check ph of the solution otherwise it will corrode your anus. I bought ph testing papers for this purpose and this is as far as I got with the preparation so far. Hopefully one day I will finally try this.

It is very disappointing to keep seeing other forum users make jokes about this method and deteriorating the discussion.


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22082091 - 08/12/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

how would you modify the ph without modifying absorption?


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: TEAMSESH]
    #22082108 - 08/12/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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how far the cacti goes up your shit is on you just make shore to cut the spines  your ass hole is not a fucking digestive system 
im resounding to a fiucking joke>?
rectal cacti ? damn  talk about the struggle.
ectacy up the ass ive heard of but Christ man how far is to far for some.



actually some meds are given rectally, such as diazepam gel for kids having seizures. it bypasses first pass metabolism so you get more kick with less drug


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: musicbandit]
    #22082198 - 08/12/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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musicbandit said:
Teamsesh, I'm talking about mescaline hcl which is a white powder, not dried cactus or anything. I don't know how it's extracted or whether it's made in the lab but it's just mescaline pure and simple.





Of course it's great if you have the real stuf, but I'm worried that when I get "a white powder" it'll be something like PCP laced with LSD, or whatever. It may just be a great trip, but might not actually be pure mescaline.

Can you somehow test for purity? That would be great!

For my first time I am getting 3x30cm of Matucana Peruvian torch, and will either do an extraction, or just make it into powder. Won't be taking it all at once of course :eek: I just like to have a small stash so I can experiment and reproduce the experience.

Also, doing it anally seems perfectly reasonable to me. Just get into a scientific mindset and shoot up. :grin:

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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: Hanz]
    #22082816 - 08/12/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dr. Delban, okay 300mg might be a bit much for a first time dose, especially considering I'm quite skinny. I think the potency depends a lot on how well you've cleared your bowels. I was originally going to go for 250mg but I might go for less, not sure. I want to jump in at the deep end though. Reading this thread https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=3493 it looks like the ph is likely to be 7 and I've got some distilled water at ph7 to mix it with. I might split my dose into 2 to be on the safer side.

Hanz, I bought off the dark web so I can be pretty sure that it's mescaline. I don't have any information about test-kits I'm afraid.


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: uninc4life2010]
    #22083304 - 08/12/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've only had a small dose of pure mescaline before, but I've had San Pedro more times than I could say at this point. The best way to compare would be for you to read a lot of trip reports. Erowid.com is a great resource for this. If you plan to grow cactus, make sure you are getting a potent clone before you spend 10 years growing it. The vast majority of them out there are not very potent.


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: musicbandit]
    #22083338 - 08/12/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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musicbandit said:
Dr. Delban, okay 300mg might be a bit much for a first time dose, especially considering I'm quite skinny. I think the potency depends a lot on how well you've cleared your bowels. I was originally going to go for 250mg but I might go for less, not sure. I want to jump in at the deep end though. Reading this thread https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=3493 it looks like the ph is likely to be 7 and I've got some distilled water at ph7 to mix it with. I might split my dose into 2 to be on the safer side.

Hanz, I bought off the dark web so I can be pretty sure that it's mescaline. I don't have any information about test-kits I'm afraid.




Once you dissolve mesc in 7ph water it won't be at 7ph anymore. You will need to add calcium or something


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22083594 - 08/12/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, I might have to take your word for it unless I test it myself. Did you read the linked page though? The user Benzyme seems to say the salt by itself would be around ph 7 doesn't he/she? He's 'basing it off of past extraction procedures...and measurements taken by a pH meter'. The ph of straight mescaline is about 9 (ie. acidic) but that's without hydrochloride....


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: musicbandit]
    #22084725 - 08/13/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok, I might have to take your word for it unless I test it myself. Did you read the linked page though? The user Benzyme seems to say the salt by itself would be around ph 7 doesn't he/she? He's 'basing it off of past extraction procedures...and measurements taken by a pH meter'. The ph of straight mescaline is about 9 (ie. acidic) but that's without hydrochloride....




Hmm. I'm no expert on this, but simple chemistry says that a salt by itself has no pH. A particular solution of that salt has. I would expect that the more mescaline HCl you dissolve into the solution, the lower the pH will become, simply because the HCl is acidic and pushes the pH down (it works like that right?, more acidic=lower pH, so 9 is not acidic, everything below 7 is).

I read the thread on dmt-nexus, but don't think it is very clear on this. I'm not even sure it's correct. Seems best to really test for pH yourself, I know I certainly would. There are simple ways to get the pH back up from too acidic to neutral.

Also, I would research the actual pH of the anus and the intestine. 5 minutes of google says it's around 7.5, though it doesn't hurt to look better. So it seems 7.5 is what you would want your solution to be.

Love, Hanz.


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: Hanz]
    #22084931 - 08/13/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hanz, and Dr. Delban, you're right, a ph of over 7 is acidic so I was completely wrong yesterday. I'll have to decide what to do now.

Edit: I meant to say under 7.


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: musicbandit]
    #22085036 - 08/13/15 06:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hanz, and Dr. Delban, you're right, a ph of over 7 is acidic so I was completely wrong yesterday. I'll have to decide what to do now.




Now you confuse me :confused:, of course you mean to say that a ph of UNDER 7 is acidic, right? At least, that is what i said...


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: Hanz]
    #22085380 - 08/13/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry Hanz, I didn't sleep too well, you're absolutely right :laugh:


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: musicbandit]
    #22085418 - 08/13/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's ok, take it easy

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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22086547 - 08/13/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Warm, earthy, extremely empathogenic & entactogenic, wholesome euphoria, crystal clarity of the mind, unparalleled connection to nature, deepening of colors, improved acuity of vision, very ancient feeling... It's incredible; one of favorites. IME it's not super visual, but the most I took was 353 mgs of mescaline HCL. Still a great dose; it's about the feelings & headspace more than the visuals really. The Native Americans call it first & foremost a medicine, and I agree.





Entactogenic?......plz. elaborate.......


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22086564 - 08/13/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It's a good qualitative description of mescaline....in small doses.

On potent cacti, your mind definitely can feel like it's spinning faster than a centrifuge, flying apart, losing your mind, not knowing who you are, tunneling through a hyperspace of sorts behind closed eyes, everything so bowed and warped you can't see straight, neon bright glowing skies. See my sig, that was from 10 inches of bridgesii. Cacti is unpredictable, that 10 cacti trip annihilated any 15 inch bridgesii trip I've had

Mescaline in high amounts is harder to handle than DMT. At least with that you know it's over in 5 minutes..not 16 fucking hours




.....sounds intense.....:awethumb:


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22086580 - 08/13/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You mean it tightens up your neck/back? I can't tell literalism over the net lol. It makes my heart almost wanna accelerate just remembering, lol. Blaze man have you had a "real" mescaline trip, ie one where the bridgesii..started to show it's true nature..the achuma? (same plant, different name for different trip intensities, just an idiosyncrasy of mine)

imho, I think it makes sense to call it a bridgesii trip, if the trip hasn't gotten intense enough for deep chaotic journey into the inner mind, and electric shocks permeating your body (or so the body high feels, lol). But when it does get to that point, then it's not a bridgesii trip, it's an ACHUMA trip!





......ACHUMA!......wow.....that's what's up^^^^:bigyesnod:


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: Hanz]
    #22086672 - 08/13/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok, I might have to take your word for it unless I test it myself. Did you read the linked page though? The user Benzyme seems to say the salt by itself would be around ph 7 doesn't he/she? He's 'basing it off of past extraction procedures...and measurements taken by a pH meter'. The ph of straight mescaline is about 9 (ie. acidic) but that's without hydrochloride....




Hmm. I'm no expert on this, but simple chemistry says that a salt by itself has no pH. A particular solution of that salt has. I would expect that the more mescaline HCl you dissolve into the solution, the lower the pH will become, simply because the HCl is acidic and pushes the pH down (it works like that right?, more acidic=lower pH, so 9 is not acidic, everything below 7 is).

I read the thread on dmt-nexus, but don't think it is very clear on this. I'm not even sure it's correct. Seems best to really test for pH yourself, I know I certainly would. There are simple ways to get the pH back up from too acidic to neutral.

Also, I would research the actual pH of the anus and the intestine. 5 minutes of google says it's around 7.5, though it doesn't hurt to look better. So it seems 7.5 is what you would want your solution to be.

Love, Hanz.




Why not to measure your own anus' ph prior insertion? This would make sense.


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Re: Has anyone here ever tried mescaline? What is it like, and how does it compare to Psilocybin? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22087830 - 08/13/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hanz said:
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Ok, I might have to take your word for it unless I test it myself. Did you read the linked page though? The user Benzyme seems to say the salt by itself would be around ph 7 doesn't he/she? He's 'basing it off of past extraction procedures...and measurements taken by a pH meter'. The ph of straight mescaline is about 9 (ie. acidic) but that's without hydrochloride....




Hmm. I'm no expert on this, but simple chemistry says that a salt by itself has no pH. A particular solution of that salt has. I would expect that the more mescaline HCl you dissolve into the solution, the lower the pH will become, simply because the HCl is acidic and pushes the pH down (it works like that right?, more acidic=lower pH, so 9 is not acidic, everything below 7 is).

I read the thread on dmt-nexus, but don't think it is very clear on this. I'm not even sure it's correct. Seems best to really test for pH yourself, I know I certainly would. There are simple ways to get the pH back up from too acidic to neutral.

Also, I would research the actual pH of the anus and the intestine. 5 minutes of google says it's around 7.5, though it doesn't hurt to look better. So it seems 7.5 is what you would want your solution to be.

Love, Hanz.




Why not to measure your own anus' ph prior insertion? This would make sense.




It would make sense, wouldn't it? That's what I meant earlier when I said, get into a scientific mindset (....now looking for that particular smiley that inserts ph test in anus...damn, there is none..  :lol:)


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