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Ghost0420
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Is this a good idea?
#22061348 - 08/08/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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To pick shrooms when they are really large?
And how large can cubes grow? Are certain strains larger than others?
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22061357 - 08/08/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They can go for 150g wet easy. But it's a pretty rare occurrence ime.
You pick just before the veil tears or a little later after that. A good indication when it's about to tear is when the cap starts to swell real good...
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Ghost0420
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Why not pick when as big as possible?
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Buck513
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22061377 - 08/08/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ghost0420 said: To pick shrooms when they are really large?
And how large can cubes grow? Are certain strains larger than others?
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Ghost0420 said: Why not pick when as big as possible?
These posts just scream "I'm a noob".
When the veil is broke they're not gonna be getting any bigger.
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22061378 - 08/08/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ghost0420 said: Why not pick when as big as possible?
more to think about then just your scale
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Inocuole
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22061400 - 08/08/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ghost0420 said: Why not pick when as big as possible?
Because then they're less potent by weight, and probably covered in spores. And if you're willing to make them less potent by weight just so that there's more weight, then that's already more information than anybody needs to know about you and the kinds of things you do.
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22061438 - 08/08/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Because then they're less potent by weight, and probably covered in spores. And if you're willing to make them less potent by weight just so that there's more weight, then that's already more information than anybody needs to know about you and the kinds of things you do. 
Yet another example of elitist Shroomery nonsense, m'lord.
Nobody has ever proven that there's any increase/reduction in potency before during or after the veil breaks.
Spores are kind of a drag but they disappear in less than a second when you rinse your fruits with water. If you want to print, harvest before the veil breaks. If not, just let them grow.
Reap as you will and I suspect you won't notice any 0.0001% variance in potency, my friend
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Inocuole
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: ShroominMe]
#22061536 - 08/08/15 04:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rinse your fruits with water?? Why would you do that? How long do you want it to take to dry exactly?
Good god you're a cringey one.
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22061591 - 08/08/15 05:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don't wash any mushrooms, gourmet or psychoactive, with water.
Because then you'll be running all the active ingredients (medicine) along with the water.
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spacechildo
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elitist shroomery nonsense? 
there's some finicky processes going on when spores are produced, i'm more surprised you can so blatantly state that inoc is wrong!
when you grow a tubs worth anyway you want fruit quality over quantity.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22061654 - 08/08/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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Ghost0420 said: Why not pick when as big as possible?
Because then they're less potent by weight, and probably covered in spores. And if you're willing to make them less potent by weight just so that there's more weight, then that's already more information than anybody needs to know about you and the kinds of things you do. 

and any extra weight is prob mainly water and if you are drying your fruits all your doing is making it take longer. not what you want.
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In life you want quality over quantity generally. The best of the best. Treat yourself.
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Mad Season
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22061686 - 08/08/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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When you come home to this:
then you'd not want large fruits anymore.
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Inocuole
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Mad Season]
#22062788 - 08/08/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: When you come home to this:
then you'd not want large fruits anymore.
1000 words, my friend...
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22062811 - 08/08/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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WTF??? Have all them black mushies started to rot???
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Inocuole
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Splinta]
#22062818 - 08/08/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's spores. It's all over all the mushrooms, and the polyfill, and the substrate, which will probably mean there won't be another flush. Also if it's all over that much of everything else it's that much in the air you're breathing. You may not notice it at first but if you make a habit of letting them sporulate near you I'd bet you could develop breathing problems.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22062835 - 08/08/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah cant be good.. pneumonia or some shit
i remember a member here who used to insist if you breathe them in they grow in your lungs and infect you forever
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Inocuole
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Some fungal spores actually do that, but I don't think cubes are one of them.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22062854 - 08/08/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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what serious??
how come we dont get infected as we breathe fresh air from outside?
or do wee and just dont know until the guy at the morgue cuts you up!!
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Mad Season
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22062859 - 08/08/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's so little known about cubes. According to some reishi spores are fine, but oyster spores can really fuck up your breathing. RR had such bad problems from oysters he could only do them outside after a few years.
I wouldn't trust cubes sporing up too much. I was just out of town for 2 days and came back to that mess
Edited by Mad Season (08/08/15 02:11 PM)
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Inocuole
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I'm talking really rare, parasitic type shit. I don't think it'd be in the air everywhere, just in particularly damp forests in weird ass countries or what-have-you. Maybe I'm just imagining that I read all about those too. 
It doesn't strike me as far-fetched though considering we get all kinds of fungal infections other places.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22062881 - 08/08/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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seems pretty realistic really after all some fungus(Ophiocordyceps unilateralis) infect ant(my fave creature of all) and actually controls its life to ensure its own survival and them when finished with the ant it grows out of the ants head and sporelates!!
killing the host!

check it out-
http://www.livescience.com/47751-zombie-fungus-picky-about-ant-brains.html
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Inocuole
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Does cordyceps militaris do that or was it a different one? cordyceps something or other..
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Buck513
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Quote:
mustangbob3 said: seems pretty realistic really after all some fungus(Ophiocordyceps unilateralis) infect ant(my fave creature of all) and actually controls its life to ensure its own survival and them when finished with the ant it grows out of the ants head and sporelates!!
killing the host!

check it out-
http://www.livescience.com/47751-zombie-fungus-picky-about-ant-brains.html
Glad I didn't hide this thread
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mustangbob3
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22062901 - 08/08/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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edited above with name not sure if that cordyceps does but yes similar
and militaris may aswell, not sure, look at what it says in that link...
"The theory is that every species of ant has its own species of fungi that it gets infected by," de Bekker told Live Science
so lots of fungi do and i imagine different insects and creatures, maybe even us humans do without even knowing.
maybe cubes and other active take over our bodys and do mind control shit and we just hosts and thats why they can make us trip as they are set as parasites that control nervous systems lol
or we are not their intended victim so dont live in us but instead chose to use a certain mammal as a host for whatever reason.
or they did in the past and have evolved away from a paracitic lifestyle and are still left with the pathways that alter conciousness still.??
like us with our appendix from when we used to eat more plants and uncooked food so needed to remove oxalate crystals from the food source. we still have it but is redundant.
got me scared 
the shrooms made me do it!!
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Mad Season
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You should check out Apophysomyces if you're interested in parasitic fungi. It is kinda barf worthy tho lol.
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Health officials should be aware of infections caused by the fungusΒ Apophysomyces, according to the studies, which tracked 13 people infected by the pathogen during the Class EF-5 tornado -- the most powerful category -- whose 200-plus mph winds plowed through Joplin on May 22, 2011, initially killing 160 and injuring more than 1,000.
The common fungus -- which lives in soil, wood or water -- usually has no effect on people. But once it is introduced deep into the body through a blunt trauma puncture wound, it can grow quickly if the proper medical response is not immediate, the studies said. Five of the 13 people infected through injuries suffered during the Joplin tornado died within two weeks.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Mad Season]
#22062942 - 08/08/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats crazy
just type in ant fungus on google images loads diff fungus attacking ants and other insects!
i think you was right inocuole militaris predates on insects too
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Ghost0420
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So what if they become large and drop spores?
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Mad Season
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22063671 - 08/08/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They taste gross and look gross too?
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Inocuole
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22063674 - 08/08/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spores taste bad and it's mostly water weight, have you not read the thread you started? Plenty of good info in here. Only one or two pieces of bad info and they were stomped out pretty good.
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bluegill
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Inocuole]
#22063848 - 08/08/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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After a fruit reaches a certain period of maturity it stops producing tissue and begins to "inflate" like a water balloon. So you get more water content and less potency.
On a side note, I actually got pneumonia last year and attribute it to spores dropping. They found pulmonary nodules in my lungs and it turned out to be a fungal infection.
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: bluegill]
#22063916 - 08/08/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's all just speculation though. You don't know for sure about cube spores that is, but I was reading up on mycotoxins and they're in basically every contam we get. Lots of the green molds, purple and pink, and a lot of black molds. Contaminations in general aren't good for health. Especially if you have a weakened immune system. Check it out: http://www.mold-help.org/content/view/457/
It has a list of common mycotoxin producing molds, as well as what toxins. See how many you know :P
Edited by Mad Season (08/08/15 06:40 PM)
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Mad Season
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Re: Is this a good idea? [Re: Mad Season] 1
#22064028 - 08/08/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey inocule and bob, found an RR quote, so it must be true! no but seriously, you were talking about stuff growing in lungs and what not.. See what I found :0
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RogerRabbit said: True. For some people, the spores are just an irritation, but for others they can be really bad.
For example, I can no longer grow Elm Oysters indoors due to a massive spore release one time when I already had the flu and felt too shitty to harvest the fruits that were ready to pick in my mini-greenhouse, located in my bedroom. They filled the room with spores and I nearly died. . .seriously. I tried growing them a year later, and when the very first substrate block fruited and dropped a few spores, I was unable to get my lungs to even take in a breath when I was in that room. Mrs Rabbit had to get them out and clean out the greenhouse for me, and throw away ten or more substrate blocks that were just beginning to pin.
Cube spores mostly just make a mess, but I can see if one developed an allergy to them, it would be bad. People with AIDS or other immune system diseases should avoid exposure completely. Trichoderma has definitely been found growing in people's lungs, along with a few other species. RR
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