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OfflineJohnIce
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DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa * 1
    #22061014 - 08/07/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Though id post a procedure I wrote on a DMT extraction I am planning on doing here in the next week or two.

DMT Extraction
Straight to Base extraction with Acacia Confusa Root Bark
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Conclusion - Placed in the begining to inform the reader of some information about this extraction before they procede.  Read This First!
If the extraction yeilds a 100% success rate take the ammount of Root Bark (In grams) and divide by 50.  This should leave you with what you will get out of the extraction.
EXAMPLE --^ : 28g / 50 = .56g or roughly 560mg which is enough for 9 VERY STRONG 60mg Doses of DMT.
Notice that if you plan on using more or less Root Bark that it will initially change the ammounts of all of your materials.  EXAMPLE:  instead of 28g Root Bark you use say 50g your resulting materials list will look like this:
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Materials: EXAMPLE
Root Bark (Acacia Confusa) - 50g
Water (Distilled) - 500ml
Lye - 50g
Naptha (100% "Klean Strip VM&P Brand) - Ammount Specified Later (Use about a 3rd of your bottles contents per pull - 3 pulls total should work when done corectly)
Dropper of some kind - "Medicine Dropper"
Jars - At least 2, one can be of any shape but size will need to fit your needs.  The other will need to be an wide mouthed mason jar that is big enough to hold all of your Naptha, but still small enough to be able to scrape effectivly.  It is recomended that both are wide mouthed.
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Note:  One problem that you may face with extracting from Acacia Confusa Root Bark is that it also contains NMT.  NMT is a molecule that, in conjunction with DMT, can increase the potency of your DMT.  The problem with it though is that it has trouble re-crystalizing, so your end result may turn into a sort of goo.  You can let this goo dry some more and it should harden up a bit, but it will take more time.  If this goo occurs, you may also soak some leaf material in it to get DMT/NMT coated leaf - But when you smoke your leaf material note that it should still be vaporized compared to lit on fire as lighting it may in fact destroy a good ammount of your DMT.

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Materials:
Root Bark (Acacia Confusa) - 28g
Water (Distilled) - 280ml
Lye - 28g
Naptha (100% "Klean Strip VM&P Brand) - Ammount Specified Later (Use about a 3rd of your bottles contents per pull - 3 pulls total should work when done corectly)
Dropper of some kind - "Medicine Dropper"
Jars - At least 2, one can be of any shape but size will need to fit your needs.  The other will need to be an wide mouthed mason jar that is big enough to hold all of your Naptha, but still small enough to be able to scrape effectivly.  It is recomended that both are wide mouthed.
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Procedure:
Step 1: Take the Root and grind it up into a fine powder by any means.  Doing it by hand works but it takes a long time.  It is prefered to use a coffee grinder or a blender with pulses every few seconds so that it doesnt heat up the root to much.
Step 2: Pour your Lye and your Water into a container that is sizable for the procedure and mix until it maintains a solid color.
Step 3: Then add your ground up Root Bark and mix gently.  After you have mixed then let the solution sit for an hour.
Step 4: Add your Naptha - enough to create about a inch layer on top of the Lye solution, then let it sit for about an hour (mabye two for extra safty).
Step 5: Then do your first pull with the Dropper.  To do this you will take your solution with the Naptha on top and then use your dropper to suck it off being careful not to get any of the Lye.  The Naptha sould have changed color to a more foggy whitish color.  Transfer your Naptha to a widemouthed mason jar that is big enough to accomodate your needs.
Then place the sealed jar in the freezer on the coldest temperature over night to accouple days (2-3 is usually the standard).
Step 6: Pull your jar out and check to see if their is crystal formation, if the formation is not to your desire than you may either need to do another pull or put the jar back in the freezer (If it was taken out before 4 days).  If you are satisfied with your crystals then you need to let all of the Naptha evaporate, or gently pour it off (Second option not recomended).  Once all the Naptha is gone (even if you pour it off you should still let is evaporate off of the crystals in order to prevent deadly fumes when used) you can scrape your jar clean of the DMT and then save it for use.

Optional Steps (Recomended):
Step 7 - Doing more Pulls:  It is wise to not waste your solutions and continue to do more pulls on it until all of the DMT is out of it.  You do this by using a similar ammount of Naptha and pouring it on top of your Lye solution as before in Step 4.  Then you repeat Steps 4-6 to complete the pull.
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Sources:
Dosage Information: https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_dose.shtml
If you are new to DMT you should research the correct way to use it as smoking it with a open flame instead of vaporizing it can destroy a majority of the chemical and may provide a half-assed result.
Original Source of Extraction: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17060277/fpart/all/vc/1
All credit for the exact extraction steps goes to jimmyjame1 on the shroomery website.  I have included some extra information regarding outcome and ammount differences and what they should yeild in the end. I have also included what the posibillities could be for error with using Acacia Confusa Root Bark.


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Offlinejustcookin
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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: JohnIce]
    #22583635 - 11/27/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

what do you mean let the naptha evaporate? when you take the crystals out of the freezer its only crystals in the jar right? with naptha on it you are saying and you need to evaporite it off? like im not understanding this freeze prec. part, where does the naptha go when you freeze it? and cant u just smoke the crystals straight out of the jar after theyve crystalized?


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: justcookin]
    #22583673 - 11/27/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think the way he has it jarred makes him want to evap after freezing rather than pouring off, so that no DMT leaves with the pour. one could also use an oral syringe to "pour" the naptha out, or use a pyrex dish instead of a wide-mouth jar.


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Godfather1376] * 1
    #22584534 - 11/27/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You definitely want to leave the basic mix to sit for at least a day. This gives the lye a chance to break down all the bark material.

I would also use a lot less water for 50g extractions. 300ml is sufficient. And always use a heat bath after you add your naptha, this will increase yields drastically.

Make sure to shake and roll the jar without creating any emulsions. Pulls should be a dark yellow color and when you freeze precipitate, your crystals should get stuck to the glass.

The first two pulls will tend to yield pure white crystals, and the third and fourth will yield yellowish colored crystals.


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22912480 - 02/16/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hello, I'm new here and first time trying extraction on acacia confus. Hope someone can help.
I made a mixture of potassium hydroxide and water for lye, added the acacia powder.
Let it sit then added some naphtha, then I took the naphtha out but it was still clear uncolored. I let it sit outside in the freezing cold but nothing crystalized.
Does anyone know why this happens?


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Mars832]
    #22912556 - 02/16/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

You have to agitate the mixture by rolling the jar end over end, and side to side.
But, be careful not to create any emulsions, or it'll be hard to siphon off the naptha layer.
Also, you want the jar to be warmed up to about 120f before doing this.
I like to use a small crockpot, it works really well.


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22912844 - 02/16/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Psilosoulful said:
You have to agitate the mixture by rolling the jar end over end, and side to side.
But, be careful not to create any emulsions, or it'll be hard to siphon off the naptha layer.
Also, you want the jar to be warmed up to about 120f before doing this.
I like to use a small crockpot, it works really well.




Hi thanks for your response.
So what your saying is that after I add the naphtha I should leave the sealed jar to digest at 120f for 1 to 2 hours? And also to move the mixture several times while it's digesting or only once?


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Mars832]
    #22913029 - 02/16/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Mars832 said:
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Psilosoulful said:
You have to agitate the mixture by rolling the jar end over end, and side to side.
But, be careful not to create any emulsions, or it'll be hard to siphon off the naptha layer.
Also, you want the jar to be warmed up to about 120f before doing this.
I like to use a small crockpot, it works really well.




Hi thanks for your response.
So what your saying is that after I add the naphtha I should leave the sealed jar to digest at 120f for 1 to 2 hours? And also to move the mixture several times while it's digesting or only once?



You want to mix up the two layers about 5-6 times in one hour, letting it separate fully each time. Then, the top layer should be a light yellow color, which means you've pulled off a good amount of DMT/ plant fats and oils. You can recrystallize later to get a purer product.


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Mars832]
    #22913328 - 02/16/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Did u cook with an acid like vinegar before u added the KOH?


Edited by LogicaL Chaos (02/16/16 07:39 PM)


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22913356 - 02/16/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Did u cook with an acid like vinegar before u added the KOH?




Hi, no i did not cook with vinegar before I added the acacia to the lye.
I just added the lye and acacia and let sit for an hour or more than added naphtha while the mixture was room temp. Then just let it site for longer. That's all I did.


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22913366 - 02/16/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Psilosoulful said:
Quote:

Mars832 said:
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Psilosoulful said:
You have to agitate the mixture by rolling the jar end over end, and side to side.
But, be careful not to create any emulsions, or it'll be hard to siphon off the naptha layer.
Also, you want the jar to be warmed up to about 120f before doing this.
I like to use a small crockpot, it works really well.




Hi thanks for your response.
So what your saying is that after I add the naphtha I should leave the sealed jar to digest at 120f for 1 to 2 hours? And also to move the mixture several times while it's digesting or only once?



You want to mix up the two layers about 5-6 times in one hour, letting it separate fully each time. Then, the top layer should be a light yellow color, which means you've pulled off a good amount of DMT/ plant fats and oils. You can recrystallize later to get a purer product.



Quote:

Psilosoulful said:
Quote:

Mars832 said:
Quote:

Psilosoulful said:
You have to agitate the mixture by rolling the jar end over end, and side to side.
But, be careful not to create any emulsions, or it'll be hard to siphon off the naptha layer.
Also, you want the jar to be warmed up to about 120f before doing this.
I like to use a small crockpot, it works really well.




Hi thanks for your response.
So what your saying is that after I add the naphtha I should leave the sealed jar to digest at 120f for 1 to 2 hours? And also to move the mixture several times while it's digesting or only once?



You want to mix up the two layers about 5-6 times in one hour, letting it separate fully each time. Then, the top layer should be a light yellow color, which means you've pulled off a good amount of DMT/ plant fats and oils. You can recrystallize later to get a purer product.




Hi,
Ok I will try this when I can.
Thanks for you help. =)


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Mars832]
    #22913382 - 02/16/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

No problem man, good luck!! :smile:


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22913619 - 02/16/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Cyb's ATB tek for acacia confusa bark is on point. He gives a step by step with very clear definitive instruction that I learned alot from and has more advanced methods you can choose to utilize if you want. What tek/method are you using? I know you said stb but any recorded tek you're working off of in particular?


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Re: DMT Extraction For Acacia Confusa [Re: Mars832]
    #22913982 - 02/16/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Mars832 said:
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Did u cook with an acid like vinegar before u added the KOH?




Hi, no i did not cook with vinegar before I added the acacia to the lye.
I just added the lye and acacia and let sit for an hour or more than added naphtha while the mixture was room temp. Then just let it site for longer. That's all I did.





That could be your problem. The acid breaks down the bark so the lye can do its magic.

Also, mentally note that Potassium Hydroxide or KOH is NOT Lye. Lye is Sodium Hydroxide or NaOH. They are interchangable i believe but most teks call for NaOH (Lye).


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