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One long grassy stem sticking out?
    #22057447 - 08/07/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hi everyone,

I'm a first-timer, 4.5 days after birthing, using a carefully made SGFC (2 inches measured, 1/4" holes, 4" perlite, etc) in ~76 degrees in a naturally lit room, fanning/misting twice per day.

I can't see any obvious pinning signs, just mycelium growth. Maybe it's all okay and on track? But what's especially confusing to me is two cakes have a single "blade of grass" sticking out of them, as shown in the pictures. Each grew basically overnight. They don't look like contams, but they also don't look like anything I'd expect.

Aside from them, everything seems fine. One of the pics makes the cake look multicolored, but in real life it really is just vermiculite and white fuzz, and a few shiny vermiculite specks.

I've searched around everywhere but can find no good analysis on "blades of grass". Any thoughts? Thanks so much!




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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: tyty82]
    #22057467 - 08/07/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:

thats not a stem its something that sprouted. how the hell verm and brf can sprout beats me.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: tyty82]
    #22057468 - 08/07/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Is that a BRF cake? That looks like a Rye Berry sprouted.

How did you prep that cake? Something has gone wrong here, but if it in a properly made SGFC, then all you can do is wait and hope for the best.

Get more projects going in the meantime. This one may need to be put out back.
Lets see though.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22057491 - 08/07/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, it's a BRF cake. That's disappointing to hear. :frown:

I waited one week after full colonization, dunked for 24 hours, washed under the sink, rolled in a layer of vermiculite, added them to the terrarium. I really tried to be as careful with sterility / cleanliness as I could the entire time.

These are two out of eight cakes. The other six at this point show nothing like that.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: tyty82]
    #22057541 - 08/07/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Very interesting. How were the jars sanitized? Boiling?

I wonder if there was something in the vermiculite you rolled it in that sprouted.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22057623 - 08/07/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, I boiled for 90 minutes. And I was careful as I could possibly be to inoculate in a sterile environment with minimal exposure.

I did *not* bake the vermiculite before rolling - it came from the bag I used for the initial jars, which had only been opened enough times to pour out the contents (i.e. not much at all).

Since this is (currently) two out of eight cakes and it's just a single sprout on each, is this as severe a situation as an obvious contamination? e.g. a sprout isn't a mold, right? Obviously we don't want anything that's not mycelium to grow, but how damaging do you think this situation might be?


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: tyty82]
    #22057641 - 08/07/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

pluck the sprout by the base and continue to provide optimum fruiting conditions for the cake. get more jars going in the meantime.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22057649 - 08/07/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

just do what steve says you'll be fine, grass and mushrooms have a history of co-existing anyway :super:


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22057828 - 08/07/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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pluck the sprout by the base and continue to provide optimum fruiting conditions for the cake. get more jars going in the meantime.




:whathesaid:

I mean, I guess you could technically call that a contam. But if all of your sterilization techniques were down then you should be ok- I don't think roots can eat fully colonized mycelium (just an educated guess here, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). Very odd indeed. I'm kind thinking what someone else posted that maybe there was a seed of something in your verm when you did the dunk and roll- the moisture it gained from your misting was probably enough to allow it to sprout.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: spacechildo]
    #22057845 - 08/07/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Who knows maybe if you leave it GE will be more efficient and productive considering the circular cycle there. Plants give off O and absorb CO2, mushrooms give off CO2 and absorb O...


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: Inextinctus]
    #22058041 - 08/07/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So it looks like I'm getting experimental before I intended to. :smile:

Thanks so much for the suggestions, everyone (and for such a quick response, SteveRogers).

As a first-timer, I find the whole process fascinating, but it's so easy to be jittery since I never know quite what I'm encountering at each step. This community has been tremendously helpful.

I think I'll pluck, then see how it all goes over these next days.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: Inextinctus]
    #22058748 - 08/07/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Plants also produce co2 at night.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: kiksen]
    #22061186 - 08/08/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I plucked the sprouts. It's clear they were growing from seeds in the outer layer of vermiculite - right at the edge.

So it goes...


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: tyty82]
    #22061759 - 08/08/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Its almost unusual for sprouts not to pop up in my horse poo mixes :laugh: more commonly 3-8 little sprouts loving the nutrient and mycelium mix. I just let them be.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: motherchimp]
    #22061767 - 08/08/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

motherchimp said:
Its almost unusual for sprouts not to pop up in my horse poo mixes :laugh: more commonly 3-8 little sprouts loving the nutrient and mycelium mix. I just let them be.



something is very wrong with the way you are preparing your manure then.
You are not properly pasteurizing it or doing something wrong when spawing that is somehow introducing viable seeds.

Not normal.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22061842 - 08/08/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just took these then, manure is all properly prepared and pasteurized for 65-70 mins, the manure isn't dry when prepped though, it's constantly wet.





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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: motherchimp]
    #22061845 - 08/08/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Something is wrong with your procedure.
If that is working for you then run with it, I have no problem with someone having success with unconventional methods.
I just cannot let you tell the OP that this is normal or a good way to run tubs.

Those pics do not look healthy at all and I would bet hard money the pinsets/overall yield suffered in those cases.


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Re: One long grassy stem sticking out? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22061865 - 08/08/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dam I'm not sure what it is then, I have suspected somethings wrong with my subs though. Why isn't it healthy what am I missing... :confused:

Sorry OP my sprout crops are unusual.


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