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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #22060695 - 08/07/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't even care about the yield...I care about the density of the crystals. I could live off getting a .4 off each 100g of ACRB if the 400mg wasn't so fluffy and looked like a full gram.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22060973 - 08/07/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

then re-x


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #22060980 - 08/07/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I doubt that's going to make my DMT more dense. it might make it a little cleaner but not dense.

seriously a fucking pile of DMT that looks like atleast half of a gram weighs out to a .1

its ridiculous


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #22061205 - 08/08/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Read my first comment. If you re dissolve in a small
amount of warm naptha then let it sit out at room temp,
with no fan running for a week or so you'll have some rock
like crystals.


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22061337 - 08/08/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Keep the bans coming and Ill keep posting stupid monkey.

Quote:

farttard said:
Leaving the foil on does nothing except aid in moistening the filter material.




Wrong. It keeps the holes OP may have made in his tape/lid covered up so that contams cant go through them and f up the substrate during the incubation. Dont know what things look like in your pathetic fantasyland but OP hasnt actually told anyone how hes storing them, nor even what "them" are (as Ive stated in earlier posts). Maybe if pathetic fucks like you would read a bit better instead of sailing through the thread falsely thinking "Finally, my chance to take down galba"??

Quote:

pathetic pussyass deleter said:It certainly does not filter anything......make a BRF cake without a dry verm layer and just use foil, and watch it contam.




It filters quite fine, depending on how tight the foil is on, and how far down the walls of the jar it runs. When you think about it (this is aimed more at the others reading pussy, since we all know you dont have the brain capacity), the verm barrier works by keeping away contams by making them pass a "desolate" land without nutritions. Exactly the same as a tight foil running down the jar walls an inch or two. Contams cant pass a layer of dry verm but they can somehow pass several inches of "airless" space with several corners on the way? Welcome to america...

I dont need to make brf cakes with vermbarrier. I prepare all kinds of substrates. Even some of them without a lid at all, just the foil over the top really tigh, and again, a little down the wall, like a lid itself. Still now contams. Jelly much pathetic puss puss?

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man with only half a nut said:That is, if you would like to be proved wrong.




Id love to pathetic deleting censoring pussyass fuck. To bad you and your pathetic cencorship, judging by your reasoning, still have lightyears to travel before that happens. But safe to say Im looking forward to it, itll prob be around the same time as the sun"falls down"...

Quote:

useless copy pasting "journalist" said:The foil is there to stop water from dripping into your inoculation holes and/or ruining your filter during, and only during the sterilization process.




Gj repeating what ppl have been saying the last years. Too bad its wrong though, but its ok, its to be expected from a complete, utter and absolute moron like yourself whos based all hes life on just repeating what everone else says. When I whip out my white thumb, the foil is there for more. One man's trash is the smart man's treasure ey puss puss?

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all-around asshole getting fucked by Cubensis said:Moist filter = bad filter.

The foil gets removed after sterilization and should stay off.




Actually the moist between the foil and jar dissapears after just a couple of days. You can check this yourself if "youd like to be proven wrong" censoring asshole. I bet a moist filter is still better than a "filter" with a whole in it like OP suggested. Given that the foil is still on there theres really no need for this imaginary filter of yours, so it being moist would never post a problem. This is called cause and effect dear idiot. But hey Id love to get banned for that statement too...


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boy who has never been ouside his state yet alone country said:And using "filter tape" does nothing, there is already a dry verm layer that works just fine.

If anything it's there to make you feel better.




No there isnt already a vermlayer, this is just a figure of you imagination... My 2nd post very clearly stated you guys are assuming stuff. Here is where reading the thread instead of using it for you own personal vendetta comes into play pathetic fucktard with my dick up your ass!

Dont worry though farttard retard pathetic fucking cunttard asshole fuckass 40iq american wrong-info-spreading fuck, I copied it this time, so you can bet your sweet ass you will be reminded of it once a month, now have fun pathetic cp journalist! My dick is so far up your ass now I think Im gonna come out your dirty cocksucking mouth, and I think Ill keep it there for exactly as long as I want faggot. Go learn something about mycology instead of copy pasting all day useless american.

Psychadelic experience indeed. Surralistic


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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22061616 - 08/08/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
Read my first comment. If you re dissolve in a small
amount of warm naptha then let it sit out at room temp,
with no fan running for a week or so you'll have some rock
like crystals.



Quote:

natedawgnow said:
Read my first comment. If you re dissolve in a small
amount of warm naptha then let it sit out at room temp,
with no fan running for a week or so you'll have some rock
like crystals.




So how much naptha should i use? And should i dissolve DMT in it or just use the dmt originally extracted.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22061722 - 08/08/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Heres what i did...i dumped 150mg of powdered dmt in a shot glass with 40ml naptha and heated it up. There was a little brown gunk at the bottom of the glass. I poured the naptha/dmt in a pyrex dish with plastic wrap on top and put it under my bed.

You think it will work?


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22061817 - 08/08/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds interesting.

Please post pics at the end :popcorn:


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22062030 - 08/08/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:

You think it will work?




Yes but use heptane next time


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The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #22062122 - 08/08/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

should I start using heptane all together and just ditch the naptha?


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22062236 - 08/08/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

All the main teks on Nexus use naptha for their first pulls, I think mainly because its a lot cheaper than heptane and/or hexane (at least from what I have found).

Dude if it were me, I would still use naptha. The naptha isn't your issue, I promise. 5% PH vinegar WILL work. I pull over 2% with my current batch of bark. Remember, you can't squeeze blood from a turnip, so if your bark is relatively weak and you consistently get 1% and follow everything to the letter, it's probably just weak bark. If you read around, pretty much anyone can get a bad batch of bark and some sources are better than the other.

Also, increasing your reaction vessel isn't likely to result in a higher percentage of yields. Most of the top extractors on Nexus stick with 100-200g. I personally have better luck with running 50-75g of bark, and I use all pyrex lab grade beakers and flasks. I even have a hot plat magnetic stirrer. I have found that the more I increase my volume of bark, the harder it is to defat everything the first time around without doing a re-x, even with a mini a/b! Also, the more heat you add, the more fats will dissolve in your non-polar solvent.

This shit is science dude. IMO, just switching teks and changing a couple variables aimlessly isn't going to get you the results you are after. When I started learning how to extract DMT, I literally spent months reading and researching. Once I exhausted all the DMT specific knowledge, I just jumped over to general chemistry. Learning about various chemical reactions and bonds, and how crystallization is used for purifying any compound.


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22062374 - 08/08/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Naptha is not your issue. I probably would
have used a little more naptha but i think
what you did will work.

I usually do this with much more than 150mg so
it may not be as big of a rock as you want.
Put a few seed crystals in there for the rest of
the crystals to grow on.

The brown shit in the bottom of the glass was impurities
that fell out of your product.


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22062434 - 08/08/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Whats he deal with "seed crystals" ? I think I get the concept..just having crystals at the bottom for more dmt to gain upon...like a rolling snowball acquiring more snow to make a bigger ball.

Now I know the bark isn't the issue because ive tried 4 different bark vendors and everything ends up the same.

what I do is I let about 80ml vinegar, 100g bark, and 500ml water sit in the vessel overnight.

Then melt non-iodized salt into 900-1000ml water and add the salt into the vessel. Wait another day.


Then I suck out all the fats and crap off the top.


Then I add 40g lye. (ive tried using 50, 70, and 100g lye) and I got more goo, so when I stick woth 40g lye I don't get any goo and the same yield as the other amount of lye.

Then I add about 80ml naptha and stir and stir and stir. wait until it separates then stir aand stir again. then Repeat.

then I pull, then pre-evap about half of the naptha and freeze precipitate.

What happens is ill get nice geometric circle globs...then I scrape it and it looks like a nice big pile/ Then I go and weigh it and it weighs just 100mg or so when I swear it looks like half of a gram.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22062473 - 08/08/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
should I start using heptane all together and just ditch the naptha?




i think heptane or xylene is used to get jungle spice after the bark is spent, so if you used it in place of naptha there would probably be different things other than dmt mixed in, sortof like how there is nmt in acacia. it might be better, that could just be with xylene though


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX]
    #22062500 - 08/08/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I thought that was just with Xylene :shrug:


I was under the impression that heptane was just like naptha, but better.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22062508 - 08/08/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes that is basically what a seed crystal is
and using them works well.

Ya something you're doing is not right. You should
be getting way more off 100g of bark the first pull.

I am not exactly sure as i almost never use ACRB
but i think it may be your acidification is not up to par.

Try using a stronger acid. Earlier in this thread i wrote a
tek on converting muriatic acid to lab grade hcl. You should
do it, then try again with the stronger acid.


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22062514 - 08/08/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How many pulls do you do? And how long do you let the pulls sit in the alkaline solution?


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: daytripper05]
    #22062524 - 08/08/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I do about 3 pulls.

And i let them sit for a day..and during that day i stir alot and let it seperate then stir again..i repeat that the whole day..


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22062530 - 08/08/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Off 100g bark..after 3 pulls i get about 300-400mg that looks like a gram atleast

I would do a 4th pull but when i do it yields hardly anything so i just do 3


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Damn this is so frustrating...dmt extraction [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22064495 - 08/08/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:

what I do is I let about 80ml vinegar, 100g bark, and 500ml water sit in the vessel overnight.

Then melt non-iodized salt into 900-1000ml water and add the salt into the vessel. Wait another day.


Then I suck out all the fats and crap off the top.


Then I add 40g lye. (ive tried using 50, 70, and 100g lye) and I got more goo, so when I stick woth 40g lye I don't get any goo and the same yield as the other amount of lye.

Then I add about 80ml naptha and stir and stir and stir. wait until it separates then stir aand stir again. then Repeat.

then I pull, then pre-evap about half of the naptha and freeze precipitate.

What happens is ill get nice geometric circle globs...then I scrape it and it looks like a nice big pile/ Then I go and weigh it and it weighs just 100mg or so when I swear it looks like half of a gram.




That 'tek' is pretty flawed. sounds like you're making lots of emulsions

more vinegar. 200ml with 400 water. wait overnight and filter then defat with naphtha

mix salt water and lye water in separate containers before adding to main vessel, wait a few hours then pull


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