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RACE BAITING 101 3
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: Asante] 1
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makes alot of sense.
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: Asante] 2
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: Asante] 10
#22056769 - 08/07/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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More of this shit.
I watched the majority just for curiosity's sake. It became utterly ridiculous when he came to the point he said even in a hoody he looks less like Travon than the face book creator. WHAT THE GODDAM KIND OF ARGUMENT IS THIS?! SO FUCKING RIDICULOUS IT'S GOING TO GIVE ME AN ANEURISM. Well gee, let's see, person dressed out in pants and a hoodie what is there really to compare to? Skin color. OF FUCKING COURSE YOU LOOK MORE LIKE THE WHITE DUDE THAN THE BLACK DUDE. HOLY FUCKING SHIT, WHAT A REVELATION.
Then he brings up the privilege. I am so sick of this argument it's becoming goddamn nauseating.
You wanna see racial privilege at work? Send a black guy walking through a predominantly white neighborhood and go sit at their park to eat his lunch. Now do the same fucking thing, but roles reversed. SEE WHO THE FUCK GETS HARASSED FOR BEING IN THE WRONG GODDAMN NEIGHBORHOOD. Don't even try to bias this test by sending them into a known supremacist neighborhood.
A bunch of fucking white people aren't going to beat some black guys ass for being there*. Totally different story for the other side.
*Unless you choose to skew the results in your favor by sending them into KKK territory, which is by far minimal to "black territory".
Seriously just fuck off with this shit. I'm tired of it.
Move your fucking ass to America and come experience it yourself, otherwise just shut up with this shit already. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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I agree with about 90% of everything he stated. I didn't find it very racially motivated, you should have watched the whole thing, he uses the race as a buildup to his prime objective.
Good post.
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I didnt talk a single word.
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: TNK] 1
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TheNatureKid said: I didn't find it very racially motivated, you should have watched the whole thing, he uses the race as a buildup to his prime objective.
This. Its about the BIGGER CONTEXT surrounding the debate.
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: Asante]
#22056802 - 08/07/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah the Trayv6n thing is incidental. That is one of those issues they're talking about that the media uses to get under people's skin.
I didn't do any fact-checking, but I think he did a great job treading the line between fact and propaganda. It's the one conspiracy theory that is really hard to talk about, because it is undeniable and a glaring injustice on the face of our "free country".
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: TNK] 3
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TheNatureKid said: I agree with about 90% of everything he stated. I didn't find it very racially motivated, you should have watched the whole thing, he uses the race as a buildup to his prime objective.
Good post. 
I did watch the majority of it. I can come back completely sober if it'd make you feel better. The video is just more bullshit propaganda.
Why do "minorities" have a lower educational achievement and higher incarceration rate? Did it ever occur to anyone that their culture dictates they shun school and become gangsters? Or that people of those minorities deviating from those "norms" are shunned by the others of their race? Practically every single "truth" he drops can be debunked as the problem THEY have created for THEMSELVES.
It's just more propaganda.
This isn't pre-70's/80's anymore. Everything they blame everyone else for, is their own doing. They all have the equal opportunity to rise above it. They choose not to, and not only do they not choose to, they ridicule anyone else who does. Go talk to Malcom, he'll give you first hand experience, he's shared it here, but he's not the only person I've heard it from.
They choose the life they have.
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I'm not going to get into it, you can believe what you want, I'll believe what I want.
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: TNK] 2
#22056843 - 08/07/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I respect you don't want to get into it, there are plenty of things I just don't have the energy or will to debate, but that is typical. This is also the problem. No one is willing to admit the facts because they aren't PC. I'll be labeled racist (by more than the few who have already labeled me as such). You want to preserve your good name.
I on the other hand am tired of this shit. I've reached my breaking point. I'm going to start calling all these racial threads as I see them. I'll say it flat out right here right now. I am absolutely nauseated by the constant white apologists acting as if we should feel guilty. I'm tired of a couple of certain mods and a handful of users acting as if black people are ALWAYS the victim, even while they are ganging up on a single white guy and beating him into oblivion.
I am not sorry I'm white. I will never be sorry I'm white and the only racial privilege in this country is afforded to those who are black. Go ahead koods make your yawn worthy stormfront reference. I don't give a fuck. The true racists these days are the ones who hide behind the chants of "racists". You don't have to be any certain skin color to be racist against against another certain skin color (white on white racism exist, in abundance here, black on black racism exist, etc). It doesn't absolve you of being racist.
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So the people that antagonize the social structures that allow for racism are white apologists, not the people who sympathize with white supremacist organizations? Ok buddy 
The video talked about white on white racism. Do you want to talk about any specific aspect of the video or is this a completely unrelated rant?
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I didn't want to respond, because I've been up all night, and drank rather heavily a few hours ago.
I didn't get the impression from the video that we should encourage white guilt, I am not sorry I am white, I am not responsible for the sins of my forefathers.
I've seen countless debates here these last few months, similar to this below.
If white does X it's racist If black does X it is not racist
I've seen it a dozen times, and I don't agree with it, anyone who thinks that black people, or any other minority is incapable of being racist, or that racism is a white only issue, than they need to get their fucking head out of their ass.
If you think I am fear full of tarnishing my name, you are mistaken. Like I said, I just didn't have the energy to debate it, I didn't get an overall racist undertone from the video, or that it was encouraging white guilt, the vibe I got was the parts of the puzzle that are in play in the entire system, oppression, against people of all races, economic oppression to be more exact.
I'm not trying to defend the ideology of people who believe that RACISM, is a white only issue.
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To not be able to understand the points of the video I have talked about you'd need to be reading at a preschool level. Watch it, read my comments, tell me how I didn't already tackle two points.
An apologist is someone who acts as if white people are reprehensible for what happened to the slaves or the oppression they faced after their freedom. News-fucking-flash. Those people are all long since dead or aren't a part of this community at least. Hey other white people, speak up. How many slaves do you own? How many slaves did your fathers own? How many slaves have you known in your life?
Don't hear anyone. Strange. Hey white people how many were there of you around to oppress the black people when they had long since been freed but were still fighting for their true freedom? Odd.. Still can't hear anyone.
We have some old people here, but they are very few and far between and I'm betting almost all that do fit the bill only had a very faint recollection. None directly responsible for either event. Therefore anyone here acting like whitey is at fault for everything is nothing but an apologist. Which is racism in itself. The idea that the white race somehow has to feel bad or make up for what was done to the other races long before they had any say in it at all.
Black people aren't held back by racism. They're held back because they choose to be held back. Rather than focus on education and academic status, it's about how hard they are. They chose their lives. They all had every opportunity to rise above the stereotype. They chose not to. Gangbanging and street cred was more important.
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An apologist is someone who acts as if white people are reprehensible for what happened to the slaves or the oppression they faced after their freedom.
Since I think we can agree this is a serious conversation, lets take the language we use a little seriously here.
Here is a definition of apologist:
-"a person who defends or supports something (such as a religion, cause, or organization) that is being criticized or attacked by other people"-
if you have another you would like to use, let me know, but i reject the definition you give since that is just not true.
I know you think this is all a criticism of white people, but I want to make it clear, the criticism is of the system that allows white people to be favored in a wide variety of social situations. Part of the foundation of anti-racism is that there is no essential divide between white and black people. This video argues the idea that there is a divide is the result of upper class intellectuals who would exploit anyone really, but have sowed seeds of unrest by creating a class system where poor whites believe they are better than poor blacks.
Of course there is more to it than this, as it would not be possible without taking advantage out human's inborn desires like the need to feel part of something, fear of the unknown, and a long history of overlooking atrocities when it benefits the people in power.
Rather than recognize any of this, you feel white people are under attack, and you want to defend your pride as a white man as you feel that white people have done nothing wrong. When you go on long rants about what is wrong with "them" and how really white people are at just as great of a disadvantage it really puts you in the position of a white apologist.
Do you see what I'm saying here? You think it is controversial to be white, which it isn't, so you speak up in defense of the group you feel you are a part of. You shouldn't be ashamed to be white, you should be ashamed to make the same points as white supremacists and call other people white apologists.
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I agree with like 90% of what he said especially the things about the social castes and what not, he was dead on with that. The final pay off about being black in America makes him sound like he is doing the same thing the media does..... selling the racial separation and what not by saying being born black makes you somewhat have less of a chance then me as a white man which honestly sounds offensive to someone who is black. I think he should've focused more on the fact that we who are not the 4% are almost all being stepped on by the rich elites. There are rich black elites too not just whites. I think in modern times they don't care about race regarding who is enslaved, we are all enslaved regardless of race.
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tl;dr
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Shroomslip said:... We have some old people here, but they are very few and far between and I'm betting almost all that do fit the bill only had a very faint recollection...

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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: vinsue] 4
#22057204 - 08/07/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The video is propaganda bullshit, how in the world is talking as fast as you can making one generalization after another while attempting to build a case for a massive conspiracy informative?
The guy would never debate someone that could question his theories, he's full of shit.
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: qman] 1
#22057332 - 08/07/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hope you didn't expect anything else from the Shroomery's resident racist.
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Re: RACE BAITING 101 [Re: Asante]
#22057644 - 08/07/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I watched the whole thing with my bile rising
Most people who are poor are because of their personal failings or because they are just starting in the workforce or have babies they can't afford. This guy is full of shit.
Quoting Van Jones? I think not. Who is this asshole?
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