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What makes a 'good' person?
    #22056716 - 08/07/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What do we base a person on?
Their actions?
Their race?
Their appearance
Their heart

In my lifetime I have had two profound shifts in identity and hence the kind of person I became changed. When I had my first depressive episode i began dabbling in drugs, I hung out with other kids like myself who liked to push boundaries because it was fun. We would egg cars, tag busses, petty shit like that which isn't major but still unethical and an asshole move in hindsight. After a year or so of derailing and destroying my future a significant event occurred which forced me to look at myself. We broke (the doors were wide open)  into a school that had expelled me a year previous and another friend whom was with us at the time, we graffitied a bunch of lockers nothing major then went to the science room and proceeded to smoke cones on the teachers desks etc. The event was a major fuck you to the school who had caused me so much pain ( they did not perform an investigation into the claims made by an individual which were later found out to be false) and in that moment I felt I was getting revenge. When reality kicks it hits hard, as 3 girls of the school quite bigger than us might I add blocked our path to freedom. By now we were scared shitless, I barged through and made my freedom little did I know that my friend did not fare the same. Later on police arrived at my house and the reality of what I had done had finally started to kick in. I was ordered to court and got let off without any conviction as I had no previous history. I was also involved in a bunch of other scumbag type shit such as petty theft, nothing major as I have repeated but what most would consider a scumbag at that point in my life. Fastforward a few years and I have completely transformed who I was although there is elements that linger, these elements that linger I feel where the main traits I had before. Eg my compulsiveness which was allowed loose during that period even know I am still compulsive but I can control. I have sorted my shit out, on a good track and have strong ethics morals. My main question is, who am I really? am I the scumbag I was once or the person I am now, not in the literal sense being of "me". Is identity and who we are like existence, suspended in moment the person we are is only relevant in that point of time.
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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22056729 - 08/07/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

there are no 'good' people

only ones who make a conscious effort towards being 'good'

and ones who dont and just 'be'


by our very nature 'we' are not 'good'

we are beastly, devious, greedy, inconsiderate , wasteful, destructive and shameless creatures just as nature intended:)

but with our consciousness we can percieve our faults if we wish and actively try to be 'good'

and remember 'good' is just a human perspective and is tied to us by moral and tacit reasons only.:smile:

as we have choosen to divide ourselves from nature and to think of ourselves as more than beasts:)

trying to be good is a personal choice and most would hope for the aforementioned reasons of morals and tacit obligations that any wise person would choose to be good as one could be.

so would a really bad person who is really trying to be good better than say an average person who is not activly seeking to adjust his ways?

for the bad man has the better intent?
how do we measure goodness if not measured against intent/effort?

some people are naturally more bad than others!
i.e upbringing, adhd ect

imo goodness is about how much effort you put into improving your own goodness and actively trying not to inflict badness on others.

its the journey and effort put into said journey not the arrival.

know one should ever 'arrive' as again by our very nature...

knowone is perfect.

and it is wrong of anyone to think of themselves as so imo

as you see its like a race that never ends and an unfair one at that as we all have different starting positions and different abilitys.

so in my mind there cannot be 1 set scale of goodness.

human lifes are equal in worth without material crap in the way,
so when it comes down to it i think effort means more that attainment.

i have met really good people and met others that some would say belong in the gutter and not worth the time of day( homeless addict 1 example).

but i know who has the better heart and intent when i really measure things up and look past the self abuse ,smell ect




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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: mustangbob3] * 1
    #22056840 - 08/07/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My youth was much like yours OP, only a lot worse in some ways. I was highly inclined to violence, aggression, theft, etc, etc and actually did pretty much the same as what you did to your school even!

Fast forward 16 or so years from that stage of my life, and I couldn't be any more inclined to behave in completely the opposite way. I attribute much of that to first coming into contact with a Buddhist monastery about 8 years ago, and having taken up daily meditation 6.5 years ago. I think psychedelics have also played a part, although I also used them in that destructive phase, so who knows.

Whilst I agree with mustangbob, we are most definitely animals with some very undesirable traits, we also have the gift of consciousness. And through that gift I believe that we can use our insight to try and achieve wisdom.

It is my personal belief that through meditation, and thus a quieting of the distractions of thought, that one can realise that all that the awakened consciousness desires is kindness and compassion towards your fellow human. I think 'good' or 'bad' is a judgement, and an awakened consciousness has no need for judgement. Things just are as they are.

Let me know if you want me to expand on any of that. I cannot stress enough how fully I believe this though. Sure, I still have thoughts of ill will towards people at times, but they're just that - thoughts. All I really want is to exhibit as much kindness and compassion towards every other human that I can. That is what lies below thought, and I suspect, does so in each and every one if us (barring perhaps psycho/sociopaths), even if often buried very deep.

I could be wrong, but that's my feeling!


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22056911 - 08/07/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Those who do no purposeful harm to others be it physical or emotional.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22058945 - 08/07/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have, frankly, no idea what makes a person "good."  But I do know that Gandhi had it, and King had it, and Mother Teresa had it.  There is something there that is real, and it can be called goodness.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22059470 - 08/07/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Mother Teresa had a lot of questionable actions, especially those of the financial kind. While she did help people there are speculations that she had sadistic behaviors and used large quantities of funding for personal agendas rather than actually helping the poor.

I'm no scholar on this but I'd recommend reading into it.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: sudly]
    #22060616 - 08/07/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Mother Teresa had a lot of questionable actions, especially those of the financial kind. While she did help people there are speculations that she had sadistic behaviors and used large quantities of funding for personal agendas rather than actually helping the poor.

I'm no scholar on this but I'd recommend reading into it.




The Christopher Hitchens is strong in this one.

The charisma, wit and intellect is unsurpassed by any of these religious clowns especially reza aslan.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22062177 - 08/08/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I suppose it's our values that define us. And the context related to cultural intercourse.

Being a good person will change with social influence and biological imperatives.


Edited by Jaegar (08/08/15 10:39 AM)


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22078859 - 08/11/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've been told i'm a good person.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22079003 - 08/11/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I like Sam Harris's notion that goodness and badness are precisely good or bad to the degree that they prevent the suffering of conscious creatures, or promote the well-being of conscious creatures. If you wish well-being on all conscious creatures, then you are a good person.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: secondorder]
    #22079020 - 08/11/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What if I'm too emo and unsatisfied to expend the willpower on wishing well for others

am I temporarily a scumbag? Do I still get to be a good person?


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: yeah]
    #22079126 - 08/11/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you do not care for the wellbeing of other conscious creatures, then you are a psychopath, or a sociopath. This is of course different from temporarily not focusing on other's well-being. Not caring, or even being swayed by, or having any emotional reaction to the suffering or well-being of others is absence of empathy and is therefore, by definition, psychopathy.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: secondorder]
    #22079168 - 08/11/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What if I've been through so much suffering myself that when I see someone else suffer all I can feel is "nothing I haven't been through already..."

just a detached witnessing... I'm in a really emo mood right now


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22079208 - 08/11/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A good person is selfless, they do for others instead of serving themselves.  They are considerate, have empathy and treat people with respect, kindness and humility. 

personally I really admire people who can be honest despite the consequences, and even if the truth may hurt, but the truth hurts less than lies in my mind.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: sprinkles]
    #22079273 - 08/11/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

comes down to basically this..

a good person improves others lives.


A bad person makes others existence more difficult.  Life is difficult enough without assholes making it harder.  If it were up to me I'd just put those people to sleep (like dogs that bite).  Telling them I believe in reincarnation & come back with a better attitude next time.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: secondorder]
    #22079762 - 08/12/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah said:
What if I've been through so much suffering myself that when I see someone else suffer all I can feel is "nothing I haven't been through already..."

just a detached witnessing... I'm in a really emo mood right now




I'm not going to argue anything with you here, but I am curious why you feel detached and careless for the suffering of others, just because you have suffered?  I've dealt with some shit in my life too, etc etc, and honestly I know how much it sucks that I wouldn't want anyone else to feel that way.  If you're just feeling particularly emo right now or something, it's OK, I've had my times I just kind of say fuck it all (and "them all" I guess).  I usually try to hold it in though.

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I like Sam Harris's notion that goodness and badness are precisely good or bad to the degree that they prevent the suffering of conscious creatures, or promote the well-being of conscious creatures. If you wish well-being on all conscious creatures, then you are a good person.




In a fairly basic way, I can dig this :thumbup: also liked your post JSB, even though it seems a little more "advanced" than the above and I think I'll have to continue my own meditation practice and stuff before I have a solid opinion.




**** On the edit screen this thought just jumped into my head.  Over the weekend (long story...) met this tweaker dude and got some tweak from him and hung out a bit and I "fronted" him some molly and a nug :facepalm: lucky for him I was fairly fucked up at the time to be thinking that kind of thing through, and go figure I haven't heard back from him, and over the past few days this has just been like a really small annoying like, mosquito bite on my mind or something lol.  Overall it wasn't for that much money, I can live with the loss, as that's what it'll likely come to for me.  Sure isn't the first time I've been screwed over :P anyway when you guys were talking about being scumbags earlier in your lives, it just got me thinking, once you do something kind of scummy and you more or less get labeled a scumbag, whether by society or just your peers or whoever, even if deep down you might be a decent person, could that label (negative ego attachment?) influence you to still do scummy things?

I've done a lot of drugs - and misused my share of nasty ones - and even though I've never stolen from anyone for a fix or anything (for one, I've never needed to) but still, I try to have compassion for them, even though it honestly does make me feel like a bit of an idiot if they burn me.  Like this dude who probably got me this weekend, I have a hard time thinking he's sitting back going "haha sucker!" and if he is it would be fun to give him a solid knock up side the head, but I have a feeling to him the thought of screwing someone over barely registered, at least hardly in comparison to some possibly more basic survival needs (like food/water/and a fix I guess).  These people, I just really pity :sad:

That's a pretty small example but hopefully it can provide some food for thought.  We all need to survive.  The way society is set up seems to usually allow the people at the top to get away with anything while they can on the surface look like angels, while they may not be just stealing from one person but they could be waging war in another country in the name of "WE are morally good!"  When you don't have those resources, sometimes the dirty things you gotta do to stay alive can appear even worse.

Well, the people at the top of the pyramid would surely like us all to believe that, wouldn't they? :rabble:

/post ... sorry if this is hard to read or understand or anything, wasn't trying to focus in on one thing too much either, I'm a little high :sorry:


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: yeah]
    #22080620 - 08/12/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What if I've been through so much suffering myself that when I see someone else suffer all I can feel is "nothing I haven't been through already..."

just a detached witnessing... I'm in a really emo mood right now




If you're in an emo mood right now, but still have the capacity to care for others, then no you're not a psychopath, you're just temporarily in an undesirable state. I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing such a state of mind right now, and I'm sorry to hear that you've suffered. I hope you find a way through it.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: secondorder]
    #22080880 - 08/12/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I like Sam Harris's notion that goodness and badness are precisely good or bad to the degree that they prevent the suffering of conscious creatures, or promote the well-being of conscious creatures. If you wish well-being on all conscious creatures, then you are a good person.




Isn't that "life-ist"?  Why should we only protect living things that have nerves?  Because they are more like us?  isn't that a self-centered kind of reasoning?


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: nhbeleni]
    #22082541 - 08/12/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know if I agree that empathy is a be all and end all though. I score really low on empathy tests as I'm on the mild side of the autistic spectrum, however I don't think that has any effect on how good a person I can be...


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22082746 - 08/12/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree, that's pretty much what I said at the start of this thread!

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It is my personal belief that through meditation, and thus a quieting of the distractions of thought, that one can realise that all that the awakened consciousness desires is kindness and compassion towards your fellow human. I think 'good' or 'bad' is a judgement, and an awakened consciousness has no need for judgement. Things just are as they are.




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    #22083576 - 08/12/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You guys did raise an interesting point.  I try to be a good person, and in my own case, that basically just means I never intentionally try to hurt others in any way (physically, emotionally, etc).  I'm actually really good at it too lol, if I don't get along with someone or someone makes me upset I usually tend to withdraw and avoid them rather than cause drama and create conflict.  Even if people are bad to me (or others) in some way, I still usually don't wish badly on them, but rather I just want to remove myself from their presence instead.  Honestly, and this is gonna sound weird, but I don't think I can even "get back" at people (by yelling or whatever) even if it was warranted for me to stand my ground and yell back I just like, can't :/

Anyway I was gonna say about the empathy thing, I think it's funny because even though I doubt most people I know would really have anything negative to say about me (in regards to being a good or bad person) I also think most people that don't know me well enough probably wouldn't have a lot of good to say either.  That's just an assumption, but I'm not really "friendly" I guess, in that I smile all the time and make kindhearted chatter and things like that with people, so I think some people actually do assume I might be a bad person, I dunno.  It's weird cuz even though I'm not a smiley or chatty person at all, I usually take kindly to people who are (and also don't shut down when I'm not super chatty back right away).

In casual social situations like that I don't really think you can really tell if a person is good or bad.  I'd say more often than not people like that are probably decent, but there are definitely some cold people who are just really good at acting that way, or some people who aren't necessarily cold and do enjoy socializing like that, yet still are ultimately selfish and sorta careless.  If I had to judge someone on good vs bad, I'd need to legitimately test their character first.

With that said, I'm reminded of something I read recently, probably a quote from somewhere on this site maybe, it was like "in the old days it used to be about character, but today it's more about personality" and that resonated with me since I tend to agree with it, and it does seem we put an emphasis on personality and charisma and go so far to even judge people's character based off their personality alone.  I think integrity would be another word I'd use to represent good character.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: extreme]
    #22084095 - 08/13/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In the time since I originally posted I have had some more thoughts regarding the topic.
It's apparent to me that everything is subjective in the sense that there is no universal definition of good. IS fighters believe to be doing good in the name of their religion so by their own standard they are the good in the world and all the non-believers are not so. If this is the case and there is no universal definition of good versus evil one can examine common elements regardless of perspective. The human psyche seems to treasure attributes such as loyalty, kindness and willingness to put oneself out for others. A quote comes to mind
"Look at how a man treats not his equal but his inferiors"
My father always used to tell me this and it is something that has resonated in my mind, I've noticed that true power and courage is having the power whether it be physical, emotional, monetary etc and using it for good as well as having the power to act selfishly but choosing not to.

One of the hallmarks of a man I believe is doing this, in a situation were someone provokes a reaction but you choose to take the higher route and not obliterate the little punk for joking about the death of your loved one. Obviously I've used a personal example but the point is to take the route of morality not for them but for yourself because it takes true strength to restrain ones primal instincts instead of showing psuedo-power in the form of violence.

In response to the poster who lacks empathy for others, I think it's easy to be indifferent to others suffering in the world we live in. We are inherently in constant competition with one another with jobs, housing, partners etc but I think this removes one of the most vital aspects of human interaction which is to feel for another pain and to empathise with them. If people cared more about each other than they did about their differences the world would be a much better place. Capitalism furthers this as it forces us to be in constant competitions with each other and determines our life worth based on our success in terms of wealth. One of the experiences I've had that has shaped my view on success is when a man came to speak to us at school in late high school. The man was scruffy, had a long beard and a withered face, my first inclination was to scorn this man who was in-front of us and I questioned why he was going to talk to us as if his appearance which admittedly was not the picture of success as I determined his worth based on his appearance. He began to talk to us about his life and passion and it dawned on me that success is perspective, this man was as fulfilled and content with his life as any one could be. Wealth is not a measure of success but really, the contentment that we derive from our daily live and the difference we make in each others life's and the world. There is a Buddhist teaching which tells us that the moment is eternal, if this is the case then the moment is the only one that matters, the present is the only thing that really exists the past and future are just figments of our imagination. My point is that if people dedicated there lives to making a difference in others, working for pleasure not for profit and not looking to fuck over everyone to get every cent the world would again be a better place.

I got lost on a tangent but these are just thoughts that I like to put to print as it validates them for me.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22084133 - 08/13/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

um no.  Isis intention is to kill other humans, christians in particular. even by beheading them.  that is not good, it is totally radical and horrid.  They know they are bad people, they use their religion as an EXCUSE to cause harm.

Our god says that killing is bad, and we should treat others with honor and love one another. He also teaches us forgiveness. "Forgive us our trespass, as we forgive those who trespass against us." 

derp. kill americans and be rewarded with 70 virgins in heaven or some dumb shit they persuade suicidal idiots to believe. shit I could make the defective believe anything if I really wanted to.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22084140 - 08/13/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

One word. Perspective.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: sprinkles]
    #22084388 - 08/13/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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um no.  Isis intention is to kill other humans, christians in particular. even by beheading them.  that is not good, it is totally radical and horrid.  They know they are bad people, they use their religion as an EXCUSE to cause harm.

Our god says that killing is bad, and we should treat others with honor and love one another. He also teaches us forgiveness. "Forgive us our trespass, as we forgive those who trespass against us." 

derp. kill americans and be rewarded with 70 virgins in heaven or some dumb shit they persuade suicidal idiots to believe. shit I could make the defective believe anything if I really wanted to.




Lol you clearly don't understand religious fundamentalism. ISIS is inspired by the quaran which they take literally, the problem is fundamentalists provide a much more realistic interpretation of Islam as they take the religion according to the book. In their perspective they are doing good work.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22084395 - 08/13/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Tldr. Using paragraphs makes good people.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: Ilift]
    #22084423 - 08/13/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

they are not normal muslims.  those are radicals.

Lol beheading people is not doing "good work."  or stoning virgins or women who have been victims of rape or crimes by perpetrated by others. 

all they have to do is put down the coffee and pick up alcohol.  but they will not.  that seperates them from their god (and that is true).  but they wouldnt be as angry of people if they did so.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: sprinkles]
    #22084471 - 08/13/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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they are not normal muslims.  those are radicals.

Lol beheading people is not doing "good work."  or stoning virgins or women who have been victims of rape or crimes by perpetrated by others. 

all they have to do is put down the coffee and pick up alcohol.  but they will not.  that seperates them from their god (and that is true).  but they wouldnt be as angry of people if they did so.




I think you are misunderstanding the point im making. Im not saying it is good work, I am saying from their perspective they believe that it is good because they are brainwashed into believing that their god wants them to do this. My point I was making is that, they don't just come up with these laws it's in the quaran, one could argue that they are more muslim than one who does not fight the infidel etc.

Oh yeah, another thing don't give me this Christian moral highground garbage, I won't derail the thread so I won't elaborate but before you act all holy and special, please realise there are allot of people who don't accept your religion to be true and will reply in a lot more offensive terms what I am saying now. :smile:


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: sprinkles]
    #22084503 - 08/13/15 02:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Lol beheading people is not doing "good work."  or stoning virgins or women who have been victims of rape or crimes by perpetrated by others.




That's your opinion. In their opinion it is. As Ilift says, they've been brainwashed into believing this. They believe they are doing 'Gods' work, which is, I suspect for anyone who believes in a god of an organised religion, 'good' work. It doesn't mean they're right/good/bad/whatever. They just are.

You know it wasn't that long ago that beheading people was common practice the world over.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: sprinkles]
    #22084849 - 08/13/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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comes down to basically this..

a good person improves others lives.


A bad person makes others existence more difficult.  Life is difficult enough without assholes making it harder.  If it were up to me I'd just put those people to sleep (like dogs that bite).  Telling them I believe in reincarnation & come back with a better attitude next time.



Or inject them with DMT?


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    #22089614 - 08/13/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

we are all a product of what we are conditioned to believe.  if you raise a child and feed it nothing but information about how cows are their gods they will grow up to believe that cows are their gods.  they dont know any different.


they just hate us because we're white and believe differently than they do.  Plus we are fat, arrogant and lazy. Plus consume everything while telling other countries what they should or should not do. and we get in their business and take whatever side we have more to gain from.  I dont understand why anyone would hate america at all.


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Re: What makes a 'good' person? [Re: sprinkles]
    #22089624 - 08/13/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly.

"There is no absurdity so palpable but that it may be firmly planted in the human head if you only begin to inculcate it before the age of five, by constantly repeating it with an air of great solemnity."


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