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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
#22062861 - 08/08/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Murdered, shot in the back, for 10 grams of weed.
Awww... just weed? Are you sure?
Kid was high on cocaine. Selling drugs. Assaulted a police officer. Was shot just as he was attempting to drive away from the scene of a crime for which he was the sole subject.
Black, white, red, yellow - case closed. People who protest stuff like this, waste too much time in front of the television watching drama shows that aren't real life.
As soon as you have video of a cop walking up to someone, yelling, "wassup muthafukr, LAPD Blood!", then shooting the kid... this, what you have here, is nothing. Nothing at all.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: zappaisgod] 2
#22062975 - 08/08/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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high on cocaine. Selling drugs. Assaulted a police officer. Was shot just as he was attempting to drive away from the scene of a crime for which he was the sole subject.
None of that justifies lethal force. None of it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner
A cop that shoots someone in that case is committing murder. Y'all need to stop coddling criminals.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: koods]
#22062984 - 08/08/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah so? What does that have to do with most police shoots? You seem to think they are all unjustified.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: zappaisgod] 3
#22063000 - 08/08/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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IMO the cops get something that way too closely resembles a "free pass" when it comes to the use of deadly force.
This story aptly demonstrates that the use of deadly force by the police should be troubling for everybody, not just blacks, but it also provides an interesting illumination of racial differences in how stories like this are addressed. I've noticed that the "#alllivesmatter" movement seems more fixated on whitewashing the "#blacklivesmatter" movement than it is on actually advancing the notion that, well, "all lives matter" when it comes to treatment by the justice system. That needs to change.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#22063085 - 08/08/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The cops are more scrutinized in their jobs than almost everybody. Almost all od their uses of deadly force are justified. Sometimes they get prosecuted. Sometimes, like in Baltimore, it is hastily done for political reasons.
I can assure that nothing you do in your life is examined as closely as what cops do. They have millions of citizens giving them a constant colonoscopy. The press even more so. I would never be a cop in a big city. My attitude is fuck you, kill each other.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: koods]
#22063098 - 08/08/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Assaulted a police officer.
None of that justifies lethal force. None of it.
If you come at me with your vehicle, you and it will look like Swiss cheese in the end. Weapons training tells you to use two shots to stop... two shots... two clips... tomato potato. Stop is stop.
Either way, the punk was stopped before he could hurt/kill anyone else.
Imagine if the cop didn't shoot - and this kid goes speeding off, racing around town, then flies through your neighborhood, runs over you and your children, and kills another family when he loses control and slams into the living room of someone's house. Let's figure 7 more people dead... but the kid gets off on a technicality and serves 3 years imprisonment and 1 year probation.
Two shots... two clips... we just saved your life for less than the cost of a meal at McDonald's.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: koods] 1
#22063574 - 08/08/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: An average of three people a day are murdered by the police. That is far too many stories to get national coverage. What makes the story rise to the ocassion is video or at least some unusual compelling aspect that is noteworthy, like protests or the fact that the victim had his spine severed. Another dead kid white or black at the hands of police is just too common an occurance to get a lot of press without video.
Alomost nonme f the police killings are murders. Get a dictionary and educate yourself
They are almost all murders, even if they find a way to legally justify most of them. The fact is if the police were better trained and were primarily concerned with the safety of the public, and not themselves, 95% of these killings would not occur. It's on the police, not the people they shoot.
"It's on the police, not the people they shoot"
So in your fantasy land, if a perpetrator points and fires a gun at innocent people or the cops themselves, there is a peaceful means to stop their violence? The criminal has the accountability for creating the hostility in the first place, this is basic commonsense.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Turtletotem]
#22063607 - 08/08/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Poor damn kid Murdered, shot in the back, for 10 grams of weed.
The article also asks why there is no outrage for this kid's death, because he is white? I don't know about that, what do you guys think?
the answer seems to be in the link you shared, change it to unarmed black teen and you'll get some outrage. Me saying black teen by itself ruffles feathers.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: koods]
#22063972 - 08/08/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: So, the UK is more urban and has a problem with cohesiveness yet nobody has been killed by the police there this year. Meanwhile 705 have been killed in the US. No amount of theorizing about some demographic differences can explain away that disparity in police violence.
the heart strings... you're tugging at them, I'ma cry for the rapists, child moesters and murderers too
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#22063996 - 08/08/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: So, the UK is more urban and has a problem with cohesiveness yet nobody has been killed by the police there this year. Meanwhile 705 have been killed in the US. No amount of theorizing about some demographic differences can explain away that disparity in police violence.
the heart strings... you're tugging at them, I'ma cry for the rapists, child moesters and murderers too
You cry for murderers in every one of these threads.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: koods]
#22064034 - 08/08/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Koods, don't blame cops for killing. You should blame the legal system and the millions of ways a good cop can lose everything because of belly-crawling lawyers and deaf/dumb/blind juries and judges. Best way to avoid all that is to only show one side of the story.
If someone breaks into my house, I will kill them. I don't care who they are. When I face the press, I will say this guy broke into my home and I feared for my life. That's how you pass GO.
If someone breaks into my house, and I stab them in the throat with my fork, and they live... when the criminal faces the press, they will say they were drunk, hungry, had the wrong house, needed a phone, blah blah blah. Now I look like a bad Fox for fork-stabbing a homeless, hungry, addict looking for help. Now I'm the evil one and will have to be on the defense because of this second story. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Arctic W. Fox] 1
#22064054 - 08/08/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice use of circular logic. I had to kill them because of I didn't kill them they could testify that I tried to kill them.
Maybe try not killing them.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
#22064074 - 08/08/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Then, they kill you.
Then you'd tell no tales.
Circular, yes, but it can go clockwise or counter-clockwise. You, or them.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Arctic W. Fox] 1
#22064151 - 08/08/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ethics: we don't do it.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: koods] 1
#22064173 - 08/08/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: So, the UK is more urban and has a problem with cohesiveness yet nobody has been killed by the police there this year. Meanwhile 705 have been killed in the US. No amount of theorizing about some demographic differences can explain away that disparity in police violence.
the heart strings... you're tugging at them, I'ma cry for the rapists, child moesters and murderers too
You cry for murderers in every one of these threads.
you still dont seem to have a grasp on the definition of murder
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: koods] 1
#22064186 - 08/08/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Maybe try not killing them. 
it's easier, cheaper and we dont have to worry about recidivism
that's why I support the use of snipers during riots, shoot anyone holding a brick, rock, bottle or other item that could be used as a weapon or a tool for damaging the property of others
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22064305 - 08/08/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's easier, cheaper and we dont have to worry about recidivism
Yet we let the murderers keep their jobs in the police department.
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: koods]
#22064309 - 08/08/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cops have never killed an innocent man. the courts have never killed any innocent man.
oh boy. yep. lets just assume everything as true. people can murder but really they're just setting you free!
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22064378 - 08/08/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Where we lost the battle was in the 60's when they stopped shooting down punks lighting fires, throwing bricks and so on. Before that they were very severe in response and there were few riots. Now, they just stand back and let them do whatever they want so they burn down whole neighborhoods, steal and assault with no fear. Might be time to go back to the old methods?
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Re: Another kid murdered in America by the police, but where is the outrage? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22064394 - 08/08/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Where we lost the battle was in the 60's when they stopped shooting down punks lighting fires, throwing bricks and so on. Before that they were very severe in response and there were few riots. Now, they just stand back and let them do whatever they want so they burn down whole neighborhoods, steal and assault with no fear. Might be time to go back to the old methods?
You sure it wasn't when the Germans surrendered in 1945?
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