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sudly
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Are you depressed?
#22056183 - 08/07/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let's hear your stories and share an experience.
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circastes
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: sudly] 1
#22056801 - 08/07/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is how I would describe my past depression which has improved into a kind of "well-being with no real interest in committing to anything just yet":
Things are pointless but not in a negative way. I just don't really see the point of much of anything at all, but I'm not aggressive or bitter about it. It just is that way.
There is little to no energy to commit to activities, things just kind of drift by and I drift through things that used to be fun, like computer games. Been very hard to do much more than the same thing each day.
Emotions are blunted. Laughter is hollow, hard to smile.
Death is frequently on the mind. Just seems like I'm all prepped up to die. There's no fear, there's no hatred or bitterness, just ready to die. I take the next best option frequently - sleep.
And that's my story.
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sudly
Darwin's stagger

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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: circastes]
#22056859 - 08/07/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No love for yourself? What about good future possibilities?
Confidence is when you don't care if someone likes you or not.
"The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference." - Charles Darwin
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: sudly]
#22059033 - 08/07/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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When I'm not bouncing off the walls most of the time in manic idiocy, I'm depressed. I have a lot of joy but I'm not really happy. Need more $$$ for that. Soon enough.
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Tropism
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: circastes]
#22059271 - 08/07/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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circastes said: And that's my story.
Sounds like the tail-end of a bout of Nihilism. Where once the pointlessness was negative, it is now just equally pointless. On my path the next step was into a bit of existentialism and it imo helps balance some of that out.
Sure I'm ready for death, but if this the only one chance at life? Then waiting for death is a waste and I would feel my life wasted to a degree if simply the situation we are in (waiting for death) is what prevented me from living. If we found meaning once we can find it again. It's a choice, nothing will ever seem to have a point if you look at it as pointless, and just like getting out of bed in the morning it's scary. We have to decide what is important and best for ourselves and invest into it, giving our own actions and creation meaning. If we don't, whats the point of anything. It all becomes bleak for me.
Just my two cents, as I can recall the very state you explain a few years ago. I have enjoyed my time after some of these realizations much more though, which urged me to share.
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bastian
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: Tropism]
#22059652 - 08/07/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can’t completely make up my mind on the issue of depression as mood disorder.
I think that the happiness that goes hand-in-hand with health and sanity (in the medical sense) is rooted in culturally contingent, normative and prescriptive value judgments. Medicine is a science, but the discourse surrounding it is not free from cultural and political underpinnings.
I feel like I could be correct in drawing negative conclusions about the world and that feeling helpless, hopeless dejection might be justifiable. I also feel that the sadness, and an alien otherness folded into every facet of my experience of the world is almost essential to my identity.
I feel that a depressed comportment to the world is sometimes a reasonable reaction to the given circumstances, and not necessarily a “disorder.”
On the other hand, when depression leads to suicide the issue is more complicated for me. If one could be saved from killing oneself, is seems kind of morally dubious to say “let them do it if they really want to,” when maybe his/her decision to do so is skewed by a chemical condition in the brain that doesn’t allow that person to see an alternative. Free will starts to enter into the problem at this point and I don't want to go there.
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: bastian]
#22062204 - 08/08/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I feel a deep sense of futility with our biological limitations and inevitable decay and death.
I suppose a sense of nihilism which cannot be denied. We will die horrible deaths maybe placated with drugs. The realisation we are a piece of meat destined to painful obsolescence depresses me.
Edited by Jaegar (08/08/15 10:52 AM)
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Tropism
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: bastian]
#22067100 - 08/09/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bastian said: I can’t completely make up my mind on the issue of depression as mood disorder.
I think that the happiness that goes hand-in-hand with health and sanity (in the medical sense) is rooted in culturally contingent, normative and prescriptive value judgments. Medicine is a science, but the discourse surrounding it is not free from cultural and political underpinnings.
I feel like I could be correct in drawing negative conclusions about the world and that feeling helpless, hopeless dejection might be justifiable. I also feel that the sadness, and an alien otherness folded into every facet of my experience of the world is almost essential to my identity.
I feel that a depressed comportment to the world is sometimes a reasonable reaction to the given circumstances, and not necessarily a “disorder.”
On the other hand, when depression leads to suicide the issue is more complicated for me. If one could be saved from killing oneself, is seems kind of morally dubious to say “let them do it if they really want to,” when maybe his/her decision to do so is skewed by a chemical condition in the brain that doesn’t allow that person to see an alternative. Free will starts to enter into the problem at this point and I don't want to go there.
Yeah, well put Bastian. That pretty well follows all the logical twists and turns to the end of the road and the discussion of free-will.
I think in those scenarios there would have to be a rational awareness. Not a desire to escape (unless life is such suffering that is justifiable i.e. terminal patients) but simply a desire to die and be done. If one is being rational then who am I to detest their will? Hard topic and one that will rise in prevalence along side the rise of modern euthanasia.
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: Tropism]
#22070528 - 08/10/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No.
I used to be depressed, severely in fact, until I started asking myself who it is that is depressed. Namely, who am I that is depressed.
Realised it was my false self that was depressed and blah de blah.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: viktor]
#22071569 - 08/10/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i'm not depressed, the world is just depressing.
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Love_spirit
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Re: Are you depressed? [Re: sudly]
#22071713 - 08/10/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No.
I've always been tall, thin and white. Plenty of girls begging for the D. Been able to buy anything I've ever wanted within reason. Never hungry. There are a bunch of drugs that remove all suffering. Not being tortured right now.
It's a wonderful world.
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Bigfeely123
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You didn't answer the OP you fool.
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King Klick
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I had moderate-severe depression for six years. Then I grew out of it.
Lsd was definitely helpful.
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Melancholy is sweet when it's kept on a leash but to wish it all away isn't very human except as a fault. Such hopes lead to mania and despair. One can fight if they like, or shed that old skin get born again. How many times must hope die before it stays dead?
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Quote:
akira_akuma said: i'm not depressed, the world is just depressing.
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