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so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?..
    #22055210 - 08/06/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i was watching a documentary earlier on hbo, titled "Citizenfour",

it's about the whole snowden fiasco, it was a good watch, i recommend it

anyway he was talking about the whole government thing and how they are spying on their own citizens and what not, and it just got me thinking..

like, why does the government want to keep tabs on everyone?, why are they recording the info of anyone with an electronic device?..

to me it seems it is more than just a case of national security

i think there is a big conspiracy going on, like going back to the whole new world order thing. everyone is in on it..

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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: zZZz]
    #22055246 - 08/06/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Read 1984, it might not answer what the intentions were, but it'll show you the result of what comes from shit like that.


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22055271 - 08/06/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He revealed classified information he stole without authorization.  If he comes back he will get a trial but he is currently in hiding in the Soviet Russia


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22055280 - 08/06/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

1984 is fictional literature. You cannot base real life off of fiction.


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: zZZz]
    #22055579 - 08/06/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This whole thing is crazy. I wonder if he will ever get to come home and live in peace. I believe his family has visited him over there, could be wrong but thats lame either way.

Saddest of all most people who ever knew who he was have forgotten him. I dont know anyone irl that i feel i could have this conversation about...


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #22055589 - 08/06/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
but he is currently in hiding in the Soviet Russia




yea i thought that was kinda weird..





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SirShroomsAlott said:
Read 1984, it might not answer what the intentions were, but it'll show you the result of what comes from shit like that.




i started reading that book a while back, havent finished it yet but imma work on it

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1984 is fictional literature. You cannot base real life off of fiction.




na bro, it;s pretty legit

like way ahead of it;s time

we can even say it gave rise to many of the technologies we see today,


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: zZZz]
    #22055605 - 08/06/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah it's honestly weird how many things in that book are implemented even if that book is taken to the extreme. But you do have to imagine, more and more laws being implemented all the time, more and more of your personal life being detailed and saved, and more and more technology constantly giving rise to even better ways to constantly keep tabs on everyone.

It might not be for a while, but it's a slow progression towards total control IMO.


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #22055616 - 08/06/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1984 is fictional literature. You cannot base real life off of fiction.




Most of the world is religious, I would say you can, a lot of real life has been has been based off fiction, and heavily influenced by it.

Not saying he was a prophet and it will come 100% true, but he already got a lotta shit right, the end goal could very well be the same since if it wasn't for snowden we wouldnt of found out even more of that book turned out to be true like us always being watched, he just had the year wrong, might not be my life, or my kids life, but eventually there will be a fuck ton of people(way more then now), and by that time the technology to keep tabs on people will have heavily improved, and they will need to find a way to implement some kind of control, and when you have control like that, it's hard not to abuse it, anyone in power abuses it to some extent.

And you gotta think, we only found out about that because one man decided to tell everyone, imagine what else they've been up to already that we have no clue about.


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22055623 - 08/06/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

anything is possible, you;d be a fool not to think so.


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: zZZz]
    #22055813 - 08/06/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

power will aways want more power, hence forth we will lose more and more privacy.  They have already converted most of our lives over to digital.  Eventually you will not be able to get a job without a facebook account so they can do a "security" check into your life to see what you are "like".

Bottom line is, they want it all, everything, to be controllable.  But eventually you have to wonder whats left to be gained and what they will do once they have total power and control.  To me, for someone to want total power and control over the entire world, to me that makes me think there's a hidden alien race or some shit along those lines hiding in the shadows.

i mean, man wants power right, but the way the worlds heading who would want to live in it?  zero privacy?  micromanaged in every aspect of everything you do?  monitored in every single way you can imagine, because thats whats going to happen.  and the way the government works right now, like a machine thats so hard to change, the person running the show for ultimate power of the world, one rule, he would have to be worried that after creating a system that allowed total control, that he wouldn't somehow lose that power, but the machine kept going anyway.

inother words, there must be some fear that total power, would lead to a world in which nobody, not even the person who made it happen, would want to live in it, and nothing could be done to change it because all the angles had already been thought out

basically we as humans are creating a government that functions like AI, we are creating our societys, the networks, like one big machine.  We're creating a world that only a robot can live in.  There will be so much security you'll have no choice but to play along, but all of us, every single one of us, will be treated like slaves.  like the sweat shops in china, everyplace will look like that, except with way more security, no windows to jump out of.  The funny thing is, the rich people at the top don't even realize that the closer they get to this, the poorer they become as all the resources get sucked dry, room runs out, other life goes extinct, suddenly a tbone steak is something so special.  But for us today, we can't even imagine what used to be special, yet it has to have already happened to us, the world going to shit that is, we can't see it.

anyways aliens or something yah.  Prob something deep down in our genetics, were meant to create robots, evolve into them or something, or it was a virus sent here from another planet to infect us and slowly convert earth over to their kind.  at first the technology helps us, then we depend on it, then the technology consumes us like food.


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Re: so what's up with the whole snowden fiasco?.. [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22056004 - 08/06/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The suravailence thing was a bad idea

The real gross thing is BradleybManning. He didn't release anything except people doing bad shit to innocent people, amd he was left naked in a cold room. Fucking sick.


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