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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: modern.shaman]
    #22060606 - 08/07/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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MSSmith doesn't know the cause of blooming however thinks it may be root maturity with other contributing factors.








Root maturity definitely has something to do with it I think too. All my flowering Trichocereus have roo tballs about 15-20+ diameter. Keeping them slightly root bound seems to help but too much and they suffer. They yellow, growth stunts but they still flower. That's why I allow them to grow for 2 years in their pots, it lets them fill the pot out.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22060634 - 08/07/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Here is an older post that I must have read a while back and possibly made other connections with. Seems to have some useful insights on flowering.

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33202


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: modern.shaman]
    #22060823 - 08/07/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Here's a pic.  And I looked back, and it appears I've had these for 4 years, not 5.  So maybe they're just getting mature enough to flower this season.





Weird, they're like mirror images of each other..
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The reason some people think a wold dormancy period is needed is due to tropic regions having rare/low flowering.

How large is your pot? I personally wouldn't repot if I was looking for flowers but do repot after you get your flowers/fruit. Trim back the roots before potting up into the new pot.
DO NOT REPOT if you want the fruit to mature as it will likely drop as will the flower/buds.



Describe a root trim back.  Why trim them, where etc.  Why would you cut their roots etc..?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22061234 - 08/08/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I found one site that says, like a lot of plants, declining light (< 12 hours a day) and cooler temps will trigger flowering.  So I think I'll try and leave mine outside into the fall longer than usual and see what happens.

They've been in the same pots for 5 years, I was actually wondering if I should repot them, but I think I'll wait, as being root bound doesn't seem to be hurting them.  They've put on a lot of new growth this year and even pupped (so now I have 3 columns on each one), and I didn't even fertilize them this year.  The tallest column is probably about 3-4 feet high.





I'm not sure what to think about that site's information as my Trichocereus produce buds in late Spring-Early Summer and flower throughout the Summer. Generally by the end of Summer the plants have ceased flowering.

5 years in the same pot is definitely retarding its growth. They will benefit from a re pot. I repot my plants every 2 years, sometimes earlier if needed. I fertilise with fish emulsion, seaweed extract, liquid blood and bone and also the occasional liquid feed with a Tree and shrub fertiliser.






Hey karode can you fill us in on when you fertilize with fish emulsion, seaweed extract, and liquid blood and bone fert and when you know they need a Tree and shrub liquid feed fertilizer? Also what is the exact Zone you are living in?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: spaceman101]
    #22061265 - 08/08/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I separated most of my pedros earlier this season. They are in 5 gallon buckets atm.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: spaceman101]
    #22061421 - 08/08/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey karode can you fill us in on when you fertilize with fish emulsion, seaweed extract, and liquid blood and bone fert and when you know they need a Tree and shrub liquid feed fertilizer? Also what is the exact Zone you are living in?





My plants are in plant hardiness zone 9a, when using the US system. As for fertilisers I only apply in the growing season. I generally use the Tree and shrub at the start of the season at half strength, then use fish and seaweed throughout the remainder of the season. Blood and bone is applied at the start and end of season, maybe one during the middle of the season. I don't really have a regime anymore, when they did it was around every 2-4 weeks. I think they got a few feeds last Summer but my plants have pretty much fended for themselves for 8 months. I live hundreds of kilometres from them. My Pedro's flowered the most they ever have last year. I was told they flowered from Christmas through to February.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22061583 - 08/08/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why do you live so far from your garden?
How often do you get to go?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22064224 - 08/08/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

1) Because I do. I don't want to be too specific.

2) Sometimes once a month, sometimes every few. Just starting to move a few to where I am now. I've started another collection since leaving my other too.


A little off topic but of interest: The funny thing is that I've left a Sally D plant on its own for over half a year and it's still alive and it was flowering 2 weeks ago. It's lost some leaves but the plant has basically survived half an Australian Summer and all of Winter on its own, with no waterings, feeding or anything. These plants are great in the garden once you acclimatise and give them a sheltered position.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22064277 - 08/08/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, that's crazy about the salvia doing its own thing while you were gone... It get's nice and hot there, doesn't it? Do you not find the heat a problem for that salvia?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22064363 - 08/08/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22065203 - 08/08/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1) Because I do. I don't want to be too specific.

2) Sometimes once a month, sometimes every few. Just starting to move a few to where I am now. I've started another collection since leaving my other too.


A little off topic but of interest: The funny thing is that I've left a Sally D plant on its own for over half a year and it's still alive and it was flowering 2 weeks ago. It's lost some leaves but the plant has basically survived half an Australian Summer and all of Winter on its own, with no waterings, feeding or anything. These plants are great in the garden once you acclimatise and give them a sheltered position.



Seeds bro, did you get her to make love bro, seeds.  We need seeds..


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: Amanita86]
    #22065211 - 08/08/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: Amanita86]
    #22065222 - 08/08/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: Amanita86]
    #22065237 - 08/09/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22065285 - 08/09/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1) Because I do. I don't want to be too specific.

2) Sometimes once a month, sometimes every few. Just starting to move a few to where I am now. I've started another collection since leaving my other too.


A little off topic but of interest: The funny thing is that I've left a Sally D plant on its own for over half a year and it's still alive and it was flowering 2 weeks ago. It's lost some leaves but the plant has basically survived half an Australian Summer and all of Winter on its own, with no waterings, feeding or anything. These plants are great in the garden once you acclimatise and give them a sheltered position.






That's amazing karode:super:


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: spaceman101]
    #22065337 - 08/09/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No seeds as I wasn't there to pollinate. To keep this thread on topic please ask future questions in the Off topic thread aka, The Garden Shed. Thanks.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22065348 - 08/09/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Was that directed at me?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: Amanita86]
    #22065361 - 08/09/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry again karode.


Have you attempted any interesting crosses over the years that you grew out with any interesting results?


Also I'd love to see a pic of one of your trich fruits full of seeds if you have any:grin:


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: spaceman101]
    #22065882 - 08/09/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Me too. Would love to see a pic of a fruit sliced open with seeds


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