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Conditions for San Pedro flowering
    #22055200 - 08/06/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Does anyone know the conditions that San Pedro prefers to induce flowering (light, temp, soil moisture.)? I have a couple 5 year old, healthy plants but I've yet to see any signs of flowering. Google hasn't yielded too much info so far.

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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: tdmm]
    #22055625 - 08/06/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They flower readily down here in Australia once they get old enough to do so. I think it was 4 or 5 years growth to get them to do it though. I don't do anything special to get them flowering, they just start doing it one year and continue the next season.

Cooler climates may prevent them from flowering. I think modern_shaman posted some data from another site with some insight to get them flowering. I'll have a look to find it.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22055647 - 08/06/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Double post but yeah. Here's what modern.shaman had to say. I was getting this post mixed up with another. I thought the info he posted was from nansnook, but it wasn't.

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They will bloom when mature enough even if in pot and moved indoors every year. Give them enough time, don't repot them and don't cut them. I've never had a bloom myself but hope to get one in a few years.  Give them some help with fertilizer and extra water during growing season.




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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22055867 - 08/06/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't repot them?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: Amanita86]
    #22055945 - 08/06/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe they'll flower more readily if root bound like Dragon fruit:shrug:


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: spaceman101]
    #22056076 - 08/06/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

On that thought, has there ever been an established "best" soil/vertical growth ratio for trichs?  Like 1 gallon soil per 1ft vertical growth etc.?

I've not seen one.  More soil means more growth is about as precise as I've seen anyone say.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: Amanita86]
    #22056694 - 08/07/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I doubt it. Since some monsters can grow with ridiculously small rootballs.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22056927 - 08/07/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks guys.  karode13, I live in Portland, OR, so it's too cold for them in the winter and I usually over-winter them in the garage or shed, but right now it's prime conditions.

I found one site that says, like a lot of plants, declining light (< 12 hours a day) and cooler temps will trigger flowering.  So I think I'll try and leave mine outside into the fall longer than usual and see what happens.

They've been in the same pots for 5 years, I was actually wondering if I should repot them, but I think I'll wait, as being root bound doesn't seem to be hurting them.  They've put on a lot of new growth this year and even pupped (so now I have 3 columns on each one), and I didn't even fertilize them this year.  The tallest column is probably about 3-4 feet high.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22056929 - 08/07/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Someone on here a month or 2 ago posted a picture "looked like a possible poaching ID" of a small pot sitting on some concrete with what looked like a fat 8ft tall cactus or taller in it and it was tied to some window bars to support it's weight.

Anyone know where that pic went?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: tdmm]
    #22056930 - 08/07/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks guys.  karode13, I live in Portland, OR, so it's too cold for them in the winter and I usually over-winter them in the garage or shed, but right now it's prime conditions.

I found one site that says, like a lot of plants, declining light (< 12 hours a day) and cooler temps will trigger flowering.  So I think I'll try and leave mine outside into the fall longer than usual and see what happens.

They've been in the same pots for 5 years, I was actually wondering if I should repot them, but I think I'll wait, as being root bound doesn't seem to be hurting them.  They've put on a lot of new growth this year and even pupped (so now I have 3 columns on each one), and I didn't even fertilize them this year.  The tallest column is probably about 3-4 feet high.






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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: spaceman101]
    #22056957 - 08/07/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone know where that pic went?




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There are the large ones and a smaller one in the pot on the ground.If these look right I will speak to the owner next time I walk by there hopefully.




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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: 1234go]
    #22057220 - 08/07/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No way.. that looks almost comical.  Can you get away with that?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: Amanita86]
    #22057237 - 08/07/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ha, apparently so.

Definitely not ideal though, I'd imagine.

Considering the size of the roots on that thing, how much soil could even be in there?


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: 1234go]
    #22057721 - 08/07/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a pic.  And I looked back, and it appears I've had these for 4 years, not 5.  So maybe they're just getting mature enough to flower this season.



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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: tdmm]
    #22059154 - 08/07/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: tdmm]
    #22060347 - 08/07/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I found one site that says, like a lot of plants, declining light (< 12 hours a day) and cooler temps will trigger flowering.  So I think I'll try and leave mine outside into the fall longer than usual and see what happens.

They've been in the same pots for 5 years, I was actually wondering if I should repot them, but I think I'll wait, as being root bound doesn't seem to be hurting them.  They've put on a lot of new growth this year and even pupped (so now I have 3 columns on each one), and I didn't even fertilize them this year.  The tallest column is probably about 3-4 feet high.





I'm not sure what to think about that site's information as my Trichocereus produce buds in late Spring-Early Summer and flower throughout the Summer. Generally by the end of Summer the plants have ceased flowering.

5 years in the same pot is definitely retarding its growth. They will benefit from a re pot. I repot my plants every 2 years, sometimes earlier if needed. I fertilise with fish emulsion, seaweed extract, liquid blood and bone and also the occasional liquid feed with a Tree and shrub fertiliser.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: karode13]
    #22060443 - 08/07/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ive been neglecting to repot my oldest trichs because they are in with other other younger trichs. I need a 10 g pot for my largest now.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22060517 - 08/07/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Some people believe that a cold winter dormancy is needed to have flowering which is true with other plants as well. The rest period prevents new growth and provides energy to be stored for flowering.

I would assume that conditions similar to Cereus would help trichocereus to flower as well as fertilizer low in N; long dry period followed by heavy watering.

5 years in the same pot would indeed stunt growth however depending on the size leave it alone. MSSmith doesn't know the cause of blooming however thinks it may be root maturity with other contributing factors.

Damaging/cutting the cactus, including roots?, reduced the amounts of flowers a trichocereus produces. There is a published article on this which I read a while back although I'm not sure it was directly related to trichocereus or another.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: modern.shaman]
    #22060530 - 08/07/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My largest is just about 3 years in its current pot.


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Re: Conditions for San Pedro flowering [Re: modern.shaman]
    #22060554 - 08/07/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The reason some people think a wold dormancy period is needed is due to tropic regions having rare/low flowering.

How large is your pot? I personally wouldn't repot if I was looking for flowers but do repot after you get your flowers/fruit. Trim back the roots before potting up into the new pot.
DO NOT REPOT if you want the fruit to mature as it will likely drop as will the flower/buds.


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