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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: Rose] 3
#22065145 - 08/08/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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And one more thing, if you want 100% consistency in modding, either we would have to ban everyone or nobody.
As long as we have humans doing the moderation, and we don't go all or nothing, you are going to have inconsistencies and the occasional fuck up.
Bassfreak had so many second chances it is not funny. One more won't make a difference, it would just prolong the inevitable.
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: SunnyD] 3
#22065186 - 08/08/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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In their eyes there is no more intelligent discussion to be had on the matter. Under strict interpretation, the ban was just. I dispute the interpretation though. I don't really think it's fair to take 2 global rules, and apply both to one "free for all" forum and only apply 1 to another free for all, not without outright stating in the rules that the second forum is exempt from global guidelines. Enlil has said OTD has been exempt from harassment for ever, but I see no where it's stated as such. It's just some implied understanding.
I don't really care about RR, as I have almost never went there, and honestly I really don't care about Bassfreak's ban. I didn't really much like him. He's that one person everyone knows who "knows everything" and anytime you try to inform him of how he's wrong, he just clams up and starts repeating "you're wrong" (which in person would be something along the lines of "look, I know what I'm talking about" followed by some 10 minute extremely faulty speech telling you how they know what they're talking about and how they are right.
I'm almost never even on the wrong side of the rules. It's happened once in my entire time on this site. So ti's not like I'm getting all preachy because I feel oppressed, I'm not. I just don't like all this inconsistency. Quote:
Rose said: And one more thing, if you want 100% consistency in modding, either we would have to ban everyone or nobody.
As long as we have humans doing the moderation, and we don't go all or nothing, you are going to have inconsistencies and the occasional fuck up.
Bassfreak had so many second chances it is not funny. One more won't make a difference, it would just prolong the inevitable.
And this is understandable, but only to a degree. It's gone a bit beyond the occasional inconsistency. I am very familiar with the flow of the forums and it's moderation and what is and isn't okay but lately I really can't tell what is or isn't going to get someone banned. I really don't feel like going and spending hours giving examples, but some people are being banned for lesser things while more serious things are often ignored entirely. Thankfully I almost never find myself in that position, but others do.
From the outside looking in, it honestly seems like any post that is ban worthy is put through some kind of randomizer and that alone is what determines whether it slides or is hammered.
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: Rose]
#22065189 - 08/08/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't have a problem with the mods many times at all,
But since some mods don't like him cause hes a dick, which bassfreak is
And hes broke some rules, for flaming and such but so has people in this very thread with quotes, of the same manner that bassfreak was banned for.
But oh well I'm preaching to the choir 
I don't have anything personal agaist the mods, except a few. and even then I don't think any of them are a bad person,
Not trying to put you all down, just having a friendly debate
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: SunnyD] 1
#22065196 - 08/08/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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BASSFREAK IS NOW PERMA-UNBANNED WELCOME BACK BASSFREAK
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: Shroomslip]
#22065214 - 08/08/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude, I totally agree that we miss things or let so much shit slide, any ban is an inconsistent ban.
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Shroomopotamus said: BASSFREAK IS NOW PERMA-UNBANNED WELCOME BACK BASSFREAK
It still says exspires never
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: SunnyD] 1
#22065218 - 08/08/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pota is trying to be popular
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: SunnyD] 2
#22065227 - 08/09/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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we don't expect 100 percent consistency. but when someone enforcing a specific "rule" is called out by a group of members, it would be nice to have support for the enforcement instead of being accused of just trolling or bringing up other examples that didn't even factor into the final decision.
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: SurReality]
#22065249 - 08/09/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SurReality said: we don't expect 100 percent consistency. but when someone enforcing a specific "rule" it would be nice to have support for the enforcement instead of being accused of just trolling or bringing up other examples that didn't even factor into the final decision.
Sometimes, a person makes himself/herself enough of a pain in the ass that everyone is just happy to be rid of him/her, even if the reason isn't a great one. Bassfreak should have been gone long ago. As I've said, I wouldn't have banned him for that post, but I'm glad someone else did. Rose appears to be glad as well.
When Bassfreak was banned, I'm confident that most of the staff sighed in relief.
As far as your concerns, they've been heard. We understand you don't like the answers. The bottom line with bassfreak is: Good riddance.
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: SurReality]
#22065250 - 08/09/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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True.
I mean, "Other people got away with _____." carries little weight when Bassfreak also got away with it until this last ban. He had SO many second chances.
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: Enlil]
#22065290 - 08/09/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Practice what you preach I think bassfreak was a unessary dick a lot of the time but when favoritism plays a role,
its gonna make a few people Question
But I have said my part,
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: SunnyD]
#22065320 - 08/09/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I do.
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: Enlil] 3
#22065342 - 08/09/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: Enlil]
#22065961 - 08/09/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: He was banned for that as well. Yes it is different, though. He didn't threaten to dose rape a member of this site.
In OTD, I don't care how rude, inconsiderate, or offensive you are. I'm not going to ban you for any of those things. When you put another member in fear, however, that's unacceptable. That drives members away. For me, once that line is crossed, it's time for you to go and never come back.
That's fucking hilarious. I had the distinct impression that that was what you were here for. If not, you need to work on a few things. PM me for advice. $2500 a day.
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: farmer88] 4
#22066559 - 08/09/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bassfreak was a total moron and a terrible addition to the shroomery.
Case closed
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: sh4d0ws] 2
#22066618 - 08/09/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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All 28 bassfreak threads should just get a lock. The debates have taken place, the word was given, he's perma-banned and it doesn't seem like any of the staff care to budge.
Let the BF fans be heady with "free bassfreak" in their titles/sigs and let's move on.
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#22066628 - 08/09/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i'm just here to reopen the thread because you ended it, so that i can end it
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: Salomon] 2
#22066730 - 08/09/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It truly blows my mind that there are any Shroomerites who give a shit that Bassfreak is gone.
A Bassfreak-free Shroomery is a happy Shroomery, I say. Let us rejoice, and be glad in it!
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: TopPmz] 2
#22066764 - 08/09/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Look at me guys, I'm a judgemental hypocrite on an internet forum coming onto a serious thread to share my premature judgemental advice that can't be taken seriously.
I don't even know Bassfreak, but to wish death upon anyone goes beyond the rules of a forum - this is a serious issue; especially if they were pathological about it.
For them to rage at a type for not getting their shit together, while they themselves could not get their shit together, is like Jack The Ripper raging at prostitutes in 1888, then reborning into Tamara Samsonova in 1947 who later became a Jack The Ripper AND Prostitute:
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Re: Bassfreak is perma-banned [Re: TopPmz]
#22066810 - 08/09/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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TopPmz said: It truly blows my mind that there are any Shroomerites who give a shit that Bassfreak is gone.
A Bassfreak-free Shroomery is a happy Shroomery, I say. Let us rejoice, and be glad in it!
Agreed. I also find it astonishing how few people seem to see a problem with crimes such as death and rape threats being conducted via the shroomery. Of course the staff shouldn't and wouldn't tolerate this type of behavior. "Anything goes" is not a password for "criminal behavior allowed". All the old jokes about heroin rings aside I am pretty sure that wouldn't be allowed on site either. That kind of shit is a real liability for the administration and the operation of this site.
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