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Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years?
    #22052419 - 08/06/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Title says it all.


Say you have a vial of some pretty good LSD in the fridge. How long do you think it could last?


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22052426 - 08/06/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just test it and let us know :havesomescience:


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22052432 - 08/06/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

LSD will remain dealer grade forever suspended in water and stored properly .


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: mrbart4444] * 1
    #22052450 - 08/06/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

^^ no-name shroomery users that have no credibility are not welcomed in on the "dealer-grade" inside joke.


now moving on...anyone that actually knows what they are talking about is free to answer.


and no I do not have old LSD, its just a question I would like answered.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22052459 - 08/06/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i was in azurs journal when they started clownin your azz


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #22052467 - 08/06/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bitch lsd will remain stable forever suspended in water and stored probably.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22052469 - 08/06/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you should be fine.  if in the proper conditions, lsd can last a very long time.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: mrbart4444] * 1
    #22052525 - 08/06/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mrbart4444 said:
Bitch lsd will remain stable forever suspended in water and stored probably.



forever huh?  :uhno:




and it's much more stable in solvents(like alcohol) than it is in water.


that's why your vials are filled with everclear and not tap water :lol:


tell me some more about your extensive chemistry knowledge.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22052533 - 08/06/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

well anyways i watched a movie and how hoffmon talked about how it would be stable forever in water . Temp is what destroys it


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: mrbart4444] * 1
    #22052559 - 08/06/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

try oxidation and uv light


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22052574 - 08/06/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I had some LSD stored in a heat-sealed plastic bag, between the pages of an old text book for something like 15 years. Took it and it did nothing.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22052608 - 08/06/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dont contradict me to make yourself seem smarter i was just relaying information that ive seen by hoffmon soo..


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: mrbart4444] * 1
    #22052626 - 08/06/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

who said I wanted to seem smarter?

All im doing is challenging misinformation that you're spreading around as hard facts.

don't believe everything you hear.

and worse off, don't try to convince others you know what you're talking about because of something you heard "by hoffman"


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22052633 - 08/06/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ok now im gonna find it and show my proof


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22052699 - 08/06/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Water is a solvent... Tap water has small amounts of chlorine in it that instantly destroys lsd, but distilled water is completely fine for lsd. Lsd is destroyed by light, heat, and oxidation.

So if you had a vial of liquid that was kept in the freezer amd was airtight, it would last inxefinately.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Achillita]
    #22052738 - 08/06/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I remember an article that said David E Nichols tested the purity of a sample of LSD crystal that had been stored in a freezer for 20 or so years and it still retained its potency.

In any case everclear is the best storage option and yes it will last 10 years.

Plastic bags will cause LSD to oxidize over time because it is still a permeable material that will allow air to seep in, thus degrading the LSD.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22053192 - 08/06/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I bet it could.

But u would have to never open that bottle for 10 years.

I know its going to be temping Bill, with all these football gamees and MMA fights, but u must fight the urge and use blottters!


U can do this man.

Do it for Albert.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22053977 - 08/06/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22054201 - 08/06/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Use the freezer. I know someone who has had it in there since the late 70s and it is still very active. Freezers are awesome.
Take care.


Edited by Love_spirit (08/06/15 04:16 PM)


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22054246 - 08/06/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So using a glass jar in the freezer would work fine? Would it need to be wrapped in anything before it goes I the jar?


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22054249 - 08/06/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok so that leads me to my next question which the sove poster just have his opinion on..


Freezer or fridge when it comes to storing a vial?


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
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It's just a shot away..


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22054263 - 08/06/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

colder is better.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #22054279 - 08/06/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

theres no way a freezer could damage the LSD or IN ANY WAY harm it?

is alcohol used in all vials?


just wondering if the stuff could freeze or just be damaged in anyway. I know DMT does really well in the freezer.


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22055006 - 08/06/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You dont think the ice could breakdown the lsd?


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22055121 - 08/06/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i would say the fridge is fine.  maybe freezer it if you're planning on keeping it put away for a few years.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22055340 - 08/06/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i suspect that pulling the vial out of the freezer *might* cause an issue with thawing.

I know condesation would form on blotters. Not sure on vials thou.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22055463 - 08/06/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Like i said i kept dmt in a baggy inside a pill bottle and it was always fine if i just let it thaw for 20 minutes or so..but since a vial os liwuid im not so sure


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
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It's just a shot away..


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22055894 - 08/06/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you're storing in the fridge/freezer make sure your cap is TIGHT. Fridge/freezer dehydrates to an extent and alcohol is prone to evap'ing. A friend had a whole vial evap to nothing in the fridge b/c the cap was messed up. In a cool safe is really probably your best bet


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #22056771 - 08/07/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cant i just put the vial in like a pill bottle or a glass jar to help prevene that? I dont plan to just stick the vial in the fridge by itself


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: mrbart4444] * 1
    #22056873 - 08/07/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mrbart4444 said:
Bitch lsd will remain stable forever suspended in water and stored probably.




*Chlorine free water in an oxygen free vial.

Alcohol is probably better and it won't freeze.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: Sun King]
    #22060765 - 08/07/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article2.shtml

BOOM! 50 somethin years is a long time man. Wish i could have been a part of this.


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: thehoff117]
    #22061102 - 08/07/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

awesome article.

This quote brings it home:

Quote:

An air-tight brown glass appears to be a very effective long-term storage method for LSD. After 55 years, stored at varying room temperatures, the LSD seemed to be fully potent




Sandoz knew how to store!


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Re: Could LSD in a vial last 10+ years? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22061237 - 08/08/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Liquid is the worst way to store LSD long term. If you have liquid it's better to apply drops to a medium and freeze or refrigerate that. Liquid degrades LSD. Even 99 percent alcohol will ruin LSD. Here a picture of new liquid vs 7 year old liquid under UV light. There is clearly a big difference.




https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_testing2.shtml

Blotters stored properly for years have little to no degradation. Liquid degrades.


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