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OfflinePatlal
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Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. * 1
    #22052153 - 08/06/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

First province to do it. Let see if the entire province will collapse under the pressure of the evil socialists out to get you. The sun might explode. Who knows what could happen when the gates of hell have been opened.

Free education... Aint that just horrible?


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A student group in Newfoundland and Labrador is welcoming the elimination of provincial student loans, which the provincial government has replaced with non-repayable grants.

The province announced on Saturday that provincial student loans will be replaced with a system of needs-based non-repayable grants. It is the first province to eliminate the loan system, a move that is expected to affect about 7,000 students.

Travis Perry, chairperson of the Canadian Federation of Students for Newfoundland and Labrador, said the new system means that students in the province can get a head start on building their lives after graduation, rather than paying off their debts.

"It means students are graduating with less debt," he told CTV's Canada AM. "They're able to get out of their program of study, start a family, purchase a home, start a small business, and meaningfully contribute to the economy in these ways."

The new system became a campaign issue in the last provincial election, when all of the provincial parties committed to it, he said. It also has support from residents, who recognize how it ultimately benefits the local economy.

"It's definitely something that Newfoundlanders and Labradorians believe in," he said.

Now, the CFS will be pressing the federal parties on the issue in the upcoming election, Perry said.

The new grants only cover 40 per cent of the financial assistance that students receive. Students will still be expected to pay back the remaining 60 per cent of the financial assistance that comes from the federal government, Perry said.

"We're definitely going to be looking to all federal parties to follow our lead, to make commitments to invest in post-secondary education, and to address the student debt crisis we're facing on a national scale," he said.
Perry said that while the new system will benefit many students, it will be especially meaningful for poorer students who may not even consider post-secondary education without receiving a grant.




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Invisiblelarry.fisherman
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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Patlal]
    #22052155 - 08/06/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Newfoundland has an average of like 1-2k per year for college.

They will be fine.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Patlal]
    #22052162 - 08/06/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not free but a neat step.

I've always thought that free higher education would pay for itself in spades in our economy.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22052166 - 08/06/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If people get high paying jobs out of it then the province will recieve taxes out the ass. I'm sure they need marine engineers out there like mad.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22052462 - 08/06/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Next thing Canada needs to fix is it's immigration policy. I want in.


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OfflinePatlal
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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #22052494 - 08/06/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Mr.GuessWork said:
Next thing Canada needs to fix is it's immigration policy. I want in.




Are you healthy?
Do you have competence for work?
Do you have 50k?

If so, you'll be here in no time.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Patlal]
    #22052540 - 08/06/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Boo! I'm an American. You know I can't have any more than two of those things.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Patlal]
    #22052553 - 08/06/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Next thing Canada needs to fix is it's immigration policy. I want in.




Are you healthy?
Do you have competence for work?
Do you have 50k?

If so, you'll be here in no time.




Nah, just cross the border sick, pregnant, disabled, unable to speak the native language, and broke.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: qman]
    #22052637 - 08/06/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Investing in a possible future instead of grabbing as much as we can right now?
My word, what an age we live in.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: qman]
    #22052698 - 08/06/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
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Patlal said:
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Next thing Canada needs to fix is it's immigration policy. I want in.




Are you healthy?
Do you have competence for work?
Do you have 50k?

If so, you'll be here in no time.




Nah, just cross the border sick, pregnant, disabled, unable to speak the native language, and broke.




If it was just for me, all Americans would be able to move to Canada as if they were simply moving from New York to New Jersey. The border would be open too. Vice versa.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Patlal]
    #22052729 - 08/06/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If it was up to me, Europe would join too. It'll be great.
Hey fugitives, wanna live in America?


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22052768 - 08/06/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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qman said:
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Patlal said:
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Next thing Canada needs to fix is it's immigration policy. I want in.




Are you healthy?
Do you have competence for work?
Do you have 50k?

If so, you'll be here in no time.




Nah, just cross the border sick, pregnant, disabled, unable to speak the native language, and broke.




If it was just for me, all Americans would be able to move to Canada as if they were simply moving from New York to New Jersey. The border would be open too. Vice versa.



How about fucking no? Residential expansion is extensive enough. Canada is cool because of it's population density.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22052797 - 08/06/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
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Patlal said:
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qman said:
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Patlal said:


Are you healthy?
Do you have competence for work?
Do you have 50k?

If so, you'll be here in no time.




Nah, just cross the border sick, pregnant, disabled, unable to speak the native language, and broke.




If it was just for me, all Americans would be able to move to Canada as if they were simply moving from New York to New Jersey. The border would be open too. Vice versa.



How about fucking no? Residential expansion is extensive enough. Canada is cool because of it's population density.




Pretty sure you won't see a massive migration north.... They are patriotic. Some will, of course, but most won't


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Patlal]
    #22052799 - 08/06/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

And all their immigrants?


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22052806 - 08/06/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Canada is too damn cold for a massive immigration.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: Patlal]
    #22052812 - 08/06/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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qman said:
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Patlal said:
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Next thing Canada needs to fix is it's immigration policy. I want in.




Are you healthy?
Do you have competence for work?
Do you have 50k?

If so, you'll be here in no time.




Nah, just cross the border sick, pregnant, disabled, unable to speak the native language, and broke.




If it was just for me, all Americans would be able to move to Canada as if they were simply moving from New York to New Jersey. The border would be open too. Vice versa.




Why would you want to ruin a good country?  You don't want many of the people living in the US entering your country.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22052817 - 08/06/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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And all their immigrants?




Their illegals already don't cross to Canada and they easily could...


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: badchad]
    #22052822 - 08/06/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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badchad said:
Canada is too damn cold for a massive immigration.




If you offer more freebies they will come!!


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Invisiblelarry.fisherman
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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: badchad]
    #22052839 - 08/06/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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badchad said:
Canada is too damn cold for a massive immigration.



A lot of your climate I would consider to be too damn hot. And you guys got the same, if not worse in some areas, winter we did.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22052851 - 08/06/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
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badchad said:
Canada is too damn cold for a massive immigration.



A lot of your climate I would consider to be too damn hot. And you guys got the same, if not worse in some areas, winter we did.




That being said. I don't know if I could live in Arizona or New Mexico. I know its dry heat, but I couldn't.


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Re: Newfoundland eliminated student loans and replaced them with non-repayable grants. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22061042 - 08/07/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If people get high paying jobs out of it then the province will recieve taxes out the ass. I'm sure they need marine engineers out there like mad.




You should take a survey how many students at Memorial are planning to stay in Newfoundland after they graduate. At places like McGill in Montreal they ask the people in the medical doctorate program that question and over 90 percent are leaving after the program ends. It doesn't make much sense to train people and let them brain drain the US or other provinces.
I would maybe take a another degree for fun if it were free. I paid off my student loans in a year, the people who take 15 years are just fucking themselves over.


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