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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Konyap]
    #22055781 - 08/06/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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the us wasn't in ww1 :facepalm:

if there was a ww3 it wouldn't be because of ww2 it'd be because of the middle east dividing west and east




They weren't?

Seeing as 100,000+ Amerian military members died in WWI I would be inclined to believe that they indeed were fighting in it.

In fact it was the 3rd most casualties in any American war besides WWII and Civil.

I would not say the US 'won' the war - though they were on the winning side... they certainly helped hasten things.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Konyap]
    #22055888 - 08/06/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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the us wasn't in ww1 :facepalm:






Your history class must've sucked.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22056195 - 08/07/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

and why was that?


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Konyap]
    #22056332 - 08/07/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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the us wasn't in ww1 :facepalm:





There's a bigass graveyard filled with American soldiers from WW1 that disagrees with you.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22056470 - 08/07/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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the us wasn't in ww1 :facepalm:





There's a bigass graveyard filled with American soldiers from WW1 that disagrees with you.




there's a graveyard that disagree's with me


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Konyap]
    #22056474 - 08/07/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:mad: STAND UP FOR YOUR ABSURD BELIEFS COWARD, WE WISH TO TEAR THEM TO SHREDS

Go on, tell us your edgy reasoning bruv


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Konyap]
    #22056481 - 08/07/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Konyap said:
Quote:

Turtletotem said:
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Konyap said:
the us wasn't in ww1 :facepalm:





There's a bigass graveyard filled with American soldiers from WW1 that disagrees with you.




there's a graveyard that disagree's with me




Yeah. You just think about that.

Back on topic...

Asante, I know you care a great deal about the victims of the bombs. People are still suffering today, that is not right.
But it had to be done, you know? And dropping two atomic bombs on cities is an atrocity, but what the Japanese did to the Chinese in that war... that is something else entirely.
It had to be done.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: twighead]
    #22056484 - 08/07/15 02:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe they turned the tides of "battle," maybe they didn't


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Konyap]
    #22056488 - 08/07/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Holocaust deniers, moonlanding sceptics, and now aparently WW1 deniers?
Jesus Christ where do you people keep coming from?

You wanna come to Europe? Do you want to see the graves, craters and trenches?
There are battlefields where you can still find human remains and weaponry. Americans where involved.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22056505 - 08/07/15 02:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Within the first two to four months of the bombings, the acute effects of the atomic bombings killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 39,000–80,000 in Nagasaki;



Source: HERE

That is pretty horrific, and crazy to think about happening.
I pray that we never have to see in our life time another nuclear fall out and wide spread death.

Over 200,000 people dead as a result from a bombing that was unneeded.
Anyone else hear about how the original plan was to drop flyers, and warn the Japanese of the potential use of nuclear weapons, but due to a mix up or something, the flyers we're dropped after the fact.

There was also a plan of dropping a bomb off the coast a Japan, sending a clear message, but I guess there is no clearer message than mass civilian casualties.

Very sad, very slalom.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: TNK]
    #22056517 - 08/07/15 02:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

the fire works
yeah they could have detonated it right over the city and it would've ended


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Konyap]
    #22056529 - 08/07/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They could have even only dropped one bomb, over either city with the same result.
No real need to drop two of them.

Very sad. :sad:


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: TNK]
    #22056558 - 08/07/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There was a need to drop two. They didn't stop until we threatened to drop a third.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22056568 - 08/07/15 03:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)



You really think they would have continued to fight after such mass destruction?

Our fire bombing campaign we're already devastating their ability to effectively fight, I doubt they would have continued to fight.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Turtletotem] * 3
    #22056584 - 08/07/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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But it had to be done, you know?





No.

Quote:

"The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing."

- General Eisenhower, Newsweek, 11/11/63




I'll take his word over any lay opinion.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22056593 - 08/07/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:

Agreed, the logic and reasoning behind the lack of a technical demonstration seems absurd.
Even if there was need for a military demonstration, the logic behind targeting urban centers, very sad and a dark time in history for humanity.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: TNK]
    #22058010 - 08/07/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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TheNatureKid said:
:thumbup:

Agreed, the logic and reasoning behind the lack of a technical demonstration seems absurd.
Even if there was need for a military demonstration, the logic behind targeting urban centers, very sad and a dark time in history for humanity.





they were targeting cities that were involved in the manufacturing of military supplies and weapons, these were strategic drops - hence the leaflets dropped



it was totally necessary. the japanese had awarded 2 american sailors medals for their help in the late 30s, if im not mistaken the sailors tied their medals one to each bomb before they were put on the planes or dropped or whatever kinda like a big :flipthebird:


those sneaky fuckers deserved everything they got.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: Asante] * 2
    #22058086 - 08/07/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Never again











And let us also remember that Japan has an ongoing nuclear crisis in Fukushima, which despite not being in the media much anymore, is a long long way from resolved and remains a massive problem.


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: trippinballs420] * 1
    #22058140 - 08/07/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Its mostly about Europe, but has anyone seen the Dan Carlin podcast on WWI. It was fucking tramendous


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Re: August 6 and 9 -- 70 years ago nuclear fire raged through the streets of Hiroshima and Nagasaki [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #22058253 - 08/07/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dan Carlin is my hero and I wish he was the president of the  USA.

I think it was him who told me this crazy story:

there was one guy, actually truly in history, who got hit with one of the Nukes, survived, made his way to the other city just in time to get hit by the second nuke, and survived.

He literally was within the blast zone of BOTH the nukes that hit Japan, and survived both.

He is possibly both the most lucky and the most unlucky person in history.


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