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Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question
    #2204945 - 12/28/03 01:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am gonna be doing a stealth grow and am limited on vertical space. Can I use a sterilized knife to slice .5pint cakes (into saucers) and then just fruit them on top of verm?

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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2204952 - 12/28/03 01:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

heh... you would get baby mush, liek really small me thinks, you can cut cakes and case them with a 1/4inch layer and it would be almost as thin as your original idea.


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2204953 - 12/28/03 01:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yes. Depending on how how thin your slices are, I wouldn't expect much out of the flushes though.


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: blazenaz]
    #2204959 - 12/28/03 01:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

well... I don't even have the .5pint jars, yet. I need to do some calculations. I have a 10in. vertical space... will they be able to manage in that? I would like to know how tall the jar is if any one cares to help me out? And also, what would be the average height of a 'shroom (I know, I know... different strains vary)?


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2204964 - 12/28/03 01:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The birthed cake will be about 3.5 inches in height. is the cake going to be surrounded by perlite?


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2204970 - 12/28/03 01:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You could get a fruit that will grow to the height of your container and it will just wrap around until it is done growing.


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2204971 - 12/28/03 01:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you could stack 2 (maybe 3) 1/2 pints in a 10inch vertical space, I would say average height is about 4-6 inches with brf, what do you plan on putting them in a vent or something?


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: John]
    #2204990 - 12/28/03 02:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

N o, not a vent... but that is a genius idea. I just have this little space that I found... it's under some shelving in the basement and completely impossible to describe. I am having some troubles finding a container for it, though... everything is either too short or too tall (I am searching at Home Depot because I have a gift card there). I don't think something in the 6in. (vertical) would work because the cover would be too low and keep growth down... am I right?

Thanks for all the help, guys! ...especially jtryp... you always seem to have the right answers I'm looking for no matter which forum I'm in... I truly do appreciate it.


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: John]
    #2204992 - 12/28/03 02:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You can stack cakes?
wouldn't this decrease the area on which the mush can fruit and you would get less per cake?

Wouldn't it be easier to make 2 one pint cakes instead of 4 1\2 cakes and stacking them?


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2205001 - 12/28/03 02:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sometimes you can go to the customer service desk at HD and see a list of all plastic containers their distributor has in stock. They can call another store to see if they have a particular size or even order it. They buy based on the demand. They may have access to exactly what you need just not on the store shelves.


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: Kingkole]
    #2205013 - 12/28/03 02:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i meant for incubation since he mentioned jars, stacking would work but like you said pints would be better for that and that's not what i meant i wasn't thinking for fruiting for that question (kinda drunk)


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2205037 - 12/28/03 02:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Remember, the height of the cake doesn't matter, it's the actual biomass which accounts for fruiting potential. If you're doing half pint cakes or whatever, you can break the cakes down and arrange the pieces to be maybe 3 0r 4 inches high. The pieces will very quickly grow together to become one solid "cake".You could make the cake as wide or long as you want.

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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: catalyst777]
    #2205553 - 12/28/03 01:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So, I can cut up cakes and place them side by side and they'll grow together? All this on perlite?


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2205584 - 12/28/03 01:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would do it on some foil or something to avoid the mess, but if your going to do that you really should just case it, get a baking pan and crumble the cake and spead it evenly on the bottom of the pan (or onto the optional bottom layer) and just put a 1/4 inch layer or coir/verm, or just verm or just coir it dosn't really matter but 60/40 work best for me, I can't see why you wouldn't it would only be 1/4 inch thicker and have better flushes


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: John]
    #2205615 - 12/28/03 01:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

so, let me see if I got this... get a like rubbermaid container.. put the cakes as the 1st layer? Then just put 60/40 of coir/verm on top (.25 inch) layer? Cuz I read casing teks and they seemed like the 1st layer was part of the mix, as well... and it doesn't matter how tiny I crumble the cakes?

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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2205661 - 12/28/03 02:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: ergot]
    #2205733 - 12/28/03 03:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah most casing teks say put a layer of verm or 60/40 mix, then crumbled cakes, then 60/40 mix or verm to finish it off. coating the bottom on the tupperware first isn't nessary though, you can just put the cakes on the bottom, a bottom layer will help hold water and you'll probably get slightly bigger shrooms, I've never noticed a much of a diffrence either way. I was just saying so you can conserve space since I don't really know what your workin with, also yeah it dosn't really matter how much you crumbled the cakes, do it in a new plastic baggie them dump it in the pan, just don't go crazy with it, seperating each piece of verm :tongue:


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: John]
    #2207204 - 12/29/03 08:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How would a bottom casing layer effect the size of the fruits? The fruiting is based purely on the nutrient precursors found in the substrate.
Why would breaking the substrate up signficantly harm the mycelia? Cubensis is a hardy mushroom - it can withstand huge variations in temperature and still fruit, it is contaminant resistant (compare it to panaeolus for example).
You can be rough with cubies and they will bounce back no problem....


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2207515 - 12/29/03 12:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

How would a bottom casing layer effect the size of the fruits?




a few people claim the bottom layer helps with mositure content and thus bigger fruits, but if you notice in my post I said I could never tell a diffrence, I believe starter said something about a bottom layer helping produce bigger fruits in his rez effect post.

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Why would breaking the substrate up signficantly harm the mycelia?




i said...

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yeah it dosn't really matter how much you crumbled the cakes just don't go crazy with it, seperating each piece of verm





theres really no need to crumble the cakes to death, it just wastes time imo, hell you can even use a cheese grater if you want, but just putting in a bag and crumbling real quick works fine, the later part of that statement was just a time saver, so he wouldn't think he has to spend a half hour seperating every piece of verm


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Re: Cutting Cakes? ALERT: Dumb Question [Re: John]
    #2207589 - 12/29/03 01:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

try checking out the flat casing tek. the cakes are then about a inch high.


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