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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22050739 - 08/05/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll have to research about the cale tea in a few days then :smile:
About the camera, the images aren't zoomed in its just a ~20% crop of the full pic.
aaand the camera I'm using is an old iPhone 5s. mostly with using the app hydra to take higher res multi exposure frames, just like supersampling :p


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22050856 - 08/05/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm honestly shocked no one asked for pics or details of a fruiting chamber. It's the first thing I'd have asked lol. I'm still a bit fuzzy on what chamber you actually use. If I recall you have a different thread I actually told you the same things PF has said. Especially about the humidity thing.

All I can say for sure is that a proper shotgun fruiting chamber has produced killer shit and I've never seen pics of pins like that in a shotgun fc.

Also as stated have lots and lots patience. But in all reality what is your fruiting chamber? Pics of the setup would be dandy.


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: Mad Season]
    #22052046 - 08/06/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry I can't post pictures anymore, because that feature is broken on shroomery.

Anyway here are some more pictures that I took with my phone, cropped about 30/40% of every picture to cut out unimportant stuff. Uploaded to imgur as an alternative, and that also lets me upload full res pics.

Here is my chamber, I made plenty of holes on the bottom and top.
http://imgur.com/yMVLb0o

Here are the cakes. the weird alien looking pins are starting to multiply and I could probably count close to 50 of these on all 3 half pint cakes.
They started to rapidly spread (though still grow very slowly) after I left the house for 24 hours and left the ultrasonic humidifier blowing cold vapor and air into the chamber for 30 minutes every 3 hour interval.
http://imgur.com/ue0zGlG
http://imgur.com/mHE1Msu
http://imgur.com/PcQzFfB
Feel free to zoom in and inspect up close :smile:


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22053000 - 08/06/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'd really love some input on those primordia


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22053693 - 08/06/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

looks like you've some shrooms popping up!


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: derricklimes]
    #22053810 - 08/06/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what did you inoculate with? on your timeline you have it as being fully colonized in 7 days. that would be impossibly fast for a spore syringe

and from zooming in on those pics the pins look good to me but the cakes seem very wet. i would stop misting for a while and let them dry out a bit. maybe you took the pic right after misting but from what you said earlier i imagine they are a little over wet. you dont really have to mist on a set timeline or anything just as needed. you want the verm and all to be dry before you mist again

i just checked out the FC pic, you probably aren't getting enough fresh air in there


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22053973 - 08/06/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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what did you inoculate with? on your timeline you have it as being fully colonized in 7 days. that would be impossibly fast for a spore syringe

and from zooming in on those pics the pins look good to me but the cakes seem very wet. i would stop misting for a while and let them dry out a bit. maybe you took the pic right after misting but from what you said earlier i imagine they are a little over wet. you dont really have to mist on a set timeline or anything just as needed. you want the verm and all to be dry before you mist again

i just checked out the FC pic, you probably aren't getting enough fresh air in there




I'm misting about 5/6 times a day and fanning at least twice as much.
I sometimes leave the lid completely off. It's 35 degrees outside and about 60% humidity. I'm a bit worried about the tiny cap's . they seem mutated/cracked/split : p I'll post pics similar to those, 24 hours after they were taken.

EDIT: where they sit, under the table above a open window, its about 80-85 Fahrenheit, so they still dry out quite quickly (that's probably why using a humidifier for 12 hours really kicked the growth rate up).


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22054029 - 08/06/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

that really seems excessive on the misting but you are there with them not me so maybe. as far as fresh air you need it to be an all day thing the fanning is not sufficient and i just figure your not getting enough cause of all the condensation in that FC. when you see a regular sgfc the walls should be dry because it gets so much constant fresh air that the temp is the same inside and out


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22054092 - 08/06/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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that really seems excessive on the misting but you are there with them not me so maybe. as far as fresh air you need it to be an all day thing the fanning is not sufficient and i just figure your not getting enough cause of all the condensation in that FC. when you see a regular sgfc the walls should be dry because it gets so much constant fresh air that the temp is the same inside and out




I think the walls are wet in my pic is because I've just misted it. Let me go take a look at the walls now.

2 minutes laiteur. :spongebob: 


Yeah i might be overmisting it. I'll cut my misting in half I guess, the walls are still wet after 2 hours, so are the cakes. Probably because of very high auxiliary humidity.


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22056495 - 08/07/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Shit I think I may have a problem, is this areal fuzzy mycelium or is this a contam? Should I quarantine the cake?


Also here's the pic taken 24hours after the previous images.


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22056556 - 08/07/15 03:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Shit I think I may have a problem, is this areal fuzzy mycelium or is this a contam? Should I quarantine the cake?


Also here's the pic taken 24hours after the previous images.





looks fine


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #22056742 - 08/07/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well even if it's fine, there's no way these will fruit in 5 days at this rate  :meltdown:  :aweman:


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22056917 - 08/07/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Were they dunked before being put into fc


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: inked4life]
    #22057284 - 08/07/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yes. though not for 24 hours


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22058341 - 08/07/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you never know man they can grow very fast once they get going. it seems they are having some kind of issue though if they have been at the 'pin' size for that long. they may just be hanging out waiting for something to happen. the first pic kinda looks like the myc may be growing back over the pins.

its only been 6 days though since they first appeared which isnt too crazy honestly they may spring up soon. i will broken record it here and say to give them more fresh air lol. maybe take the lid off for a few hours. i know when i did outdoor grows they would fucking explode from pin to full size almost in front of your eyes and i think it was because of all the fresh air. and that was in MD with like 60-70% humidity so i'd say fresh air is key.

and what did you inoc. with?


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22058597 - 08/07/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Inoculated with a MS B+ syringe, the colonization went amazingly fast and without any problems.
About taking the lid off for more FAE... I actually think that I should scrap the fruiting chamber, and just fruit them in open air, where the CO2 will be able to escape instantly. the temps are about 25 degrees C constantly and the humidity is quite high. What do you think? should I at this point fruit them in open air? Should I create a separate thread with the idea? :laugh:


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22058650 - 08/07/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well I chose to put only 1 cake in open air, and when I picked it up, I've noticed that it had pins growing on the botton, near the foil where water tends to pool up a bit. What could this mean? I put it on its side, because those pins would probably abort, right?


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: swatsqad]
    #22058660 - 08/07/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

so your timeline was correct then it colonized in 7 days with a spore syringe? that seems impossible which is why i was asking before thinking maybe something else colonized your cakes that fast but once i could expand the pics they look normal.

i dont know about doing cakes in open air. due to their small size im sure they would just dry right out. a big tub or something or an outdoor bed survives because of its size and ability to hold a lot of water. you would need to be home all the time to really babysit the cakes with a mister.

i know you just want to get these things to grow and it's frustrating but i really dont know what to tell you lol.



pins will grow where ever they can. sometimes they like the closeness i think underneath the cake. they will continue to grow even underneath ive had mushrooms fully mature on the bottom of tubs when i didnt use a liner and that was with many pounds of weight on top of them


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22058669 - 08/07/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

if they are still producing pins and all that i wouldnt worry man just make sure they get fresh air and some humidity and leave them be. they dont like too much attention


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Re: Pins stopped growing, options? [Re: Mdahmer]
    #22058672 - 08/07/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Shit im just lost, I'll try only one cake in open air, will post pics of how it works out through the night. not too sure about my decision to put it on its side, but that just makes sense, I chose a side without knots to lay it on. idk.
I'm also thinking that they just need more water, and a bit lower temps.


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