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Puppies and anti-growth hormones
    #22044348 - 08/04/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

First of all, let me be very clear that I am NOT thinking of administering anti-growth hormones to any would-be puppies.  I am purely wondering about this for curiosity's sake.

Let's say there are anti-growth hormone-like medicine lying around, and if you give it to a puppy, such that he/she will never grow up, and will remain small, cute, and puppy-like forever, is this an ethical thing to do?  The way I look at it, the puppy is not "losing" anything.  He/she would remain cute, and this would ensure that he/she would get taken care of, and be pampered by his/her owner.  He/she would also have a lesser chance of being abandoned, which is a fate that sometimes happens to dogs who have grown up and as a result are no longer small and cute.  So my question to you is, is this an ethical thing to do to a puppy?

Secondly, I wonder if there ARE these things such as anti-growth hormones for dogs.

Thanks.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: WAN]
    #22044369 - 08/04/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's unethical because it would stagnate any life potential for the dog. It would never develop in to what it's supposed to be. Not mentally, or physically. Not to mention training. Who wants to train a dog forever? That's like choosing to have kids knowing they would always be a baby. No thanks. Dogs have feelings too, they don't like being intimidated by other dogs, let alone not be able to play with the big dogs just because someone selfishly stuck them with chemicals for their own gains. If anyone actually does that shit, they definitely don't deserve to have animals let alone children.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: WAN]
    #22044372 - 08/04/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

not really sure how you could even ask if it is ethical? would giving your dog steroids and growth hormones be ethical, i doubt it but it depends on your ethics.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22044398 - 08/04/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i think its fine.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: rxb]
    #22044419 - 08/04/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

rxb said:
i think its fine.



:lolwut:


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: WAN]
    #22044424 - 08/04/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i dont see the harm.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: WAN]
    #22044430 - 08/04/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no way you're fucking up and manipulating biology/nature

Do you see a problem in doing this with a child? I know it's not an equal comparison but it's the same concept.


Edited by luvdemboomers (08/04/15 08:42 PM)


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: rxb] * 1
    #22044432 - 08/04/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

we breed dogs all the time to make them small, or puppy like or large or wolf like...

we inject them all the time with things to make them stronger, or healthier, or less likely to get an illness.

so you are saying this hypothetical injection will make them a certain size, with a certain temperment.

the arguement is what? its unnatural?

labradores are unnatural... poodles are unnatural... labradoodles are REALLY fucking unnatural.

i dont see the issue.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: rxb]
    #22044437 - 08/04/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

how are labradores unnatural?


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: WAN]
    #22044446 - 08/04/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

a labradore is the same as a labradoodle, just the product oh human breeding programs.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: rxb]
    #22044451 - 08/04/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

rxb said:
we breed dogs all the time to make them small, or puppy like or large or wolf like...

we inject them all the time with things to make them stronger, or healthier, or less likely to get an illness.

so you are saying this hypothetical injection will make them a certain size, with a certain temperment.

the arguement is what? its unnatural?

labradores are unnatural... poodles are unnatural... labradoodles are REALLY fucking unnatural.

i dont see the issue.




It's hard put my finger on what exactly but it really just doesn't seem right. The whole mentally developing while not physically developing thing. I'm more fond of my dog than of any human I know. Giving him some shot to make him not develop physically just seems wrong.

And you can't compare really compare selective breeding to anti growth hormones.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: rxb]
    #22044456 - 08/04/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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[quote]Enlil said:
I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: rxb]
    #22044462 - 08/04/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

shrug i dont know anything about the hypothetical drug, im simply assuming that all it does is positive things while keeping the dogs size and temperament that of a puppy.


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[quote]Enlil said:
I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: rxb]
    #22046592 - 08/05/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well seeing as how I think unethical medicine is funny and useful I'll go with it. This one fucker swapped two dogs heads,lived a few minutes a piece even responded to gestures, so why not give them hormones?


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: King Klick]
    #22046646 - 08/05/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Do animals have feelings or rights? Are they not delicious?


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22046722 - 08/05/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The ethics of the shroomery in this case leads to vomiting.

Wish I could believe it was playing devils advocate but unfortunately know better. Youth and privilege I guess.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22046736 - 08/05/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

ReposadoXochipilli said:
The ethics of the shroomery in this case leads to vomiting.

Wish I could believe it was playing devils advocate but unfortunately know I can't be in favor of animal testing? Not saying I am, but I understand that we breed animals for our entertainment.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: WAN]
    #22046756 - 08/05/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

completely cruel. the dog can't even say yes or no to the idea. it would be entirely unethical to do that to a dog.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22046766 - 08/05/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ethics are for bitches. I want some sweet immortal puppy right now!
I have two dogs, BTW. I wouldnt try you then I youthensing them.


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Re: Puppies and anti-growth hormones [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22046779 - 08/05/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

this is kind of like the anit-puberty hormones for kids thread that happened not too long ago


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