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Cobweb or cube? *DELETED*
    #22044114 - 08/04/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: DJDubbleD]
    #22044547 - 08/04/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: bluegill]
    #22048981 - 08/05/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My pics upload but won't blow up. Not sure what the issue is. Same process I used in my last post. Same camera, same file type. I'll keep trying.


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: DJDubbleD]
    #22049384 - 08/05/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's not you. It's the site. From my vantage point it looks good :shrug:


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: Mad Season]
    #22049402 - 08/05/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There's a thumb now at least. It looks like cube to me! Cobweb is more grayish and faster to grow.


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: bluegill]
    #22051216 - 08/06/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

From the small thumb, it looks okay to me.


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22056144 - 08/06/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Looks healthy so far, but those holes look a bit small and could be severely limiting FAE going through your tub, that's probably why the surface still hasn't reached 100% yet.. Keep the polyfill loose to compensate for this. Fan it out and mist it if the surface looks too dry. :goodluck:


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22060089 - 08/07/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The holes are only half inch diameter. I had a gut feeling they were too small and I think you're right. With such small holes I am having trouble stuffing them loosely, because the polyfil won't stay. My logic was 1/3 size tub, 1/3 size holes, but I think I proved that theory wrong. The moisture is there, the surface looks right, but the droplets on the sides and top of the tub look too large. I have six holes on bottom and four holes on top. I hate to fan and mist because I'm in a carpeted closet in the basement, high risk for contam with exposed uncolonized Coir on the surface. I'm actually thinking about isolating the inside of each hole with a cup, and drilling them larger, one by one, so plastic shavings don't land on the sub. Genius or insane?!


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: DJDubbleD]
    #22060124 - 08/07/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The bulk sub sub should be resistant to airborne contams if it's been 16 days into colonization. If you're tub is still stalled, and you see that the coir is completely exposed, then there could be a hidden contam beneath the surface stopping the mycelium from colonizing the surface completely. Any pics of the tub??

And your idea of drilling larger holes, with a cup on the other side stopping shavings from hitting the surface could work, but wouldn't it just be easier to melt a larger hole with a small tomato paste can or something similar (a lot less work IMO)


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22060219 - 08/07/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a pic from just now:



I love that idea of melting holes, do you think a tomato paste can, roughly 1-3/8", is  not too big for this small tub?


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: DJDubbleD]
    #22060243 - 08/07/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Since my pics are working now, here's the one I attempted to post originally:



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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: DJDubbleD]
    #22060245 - 08/07/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's the size I used for my 66qt mono that I'm working with now, you'll be fine, just adjust the polyfil until the conditions inside the tub are just right!! :goodluck:


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22060399 - 08/07/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the advice I'll make the holes larger and update


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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: DJDubbleD]
    #22060429 - 08/07/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22073704 - 08/10/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well I have some good, and bad news. I formed a tool from a coat hanger to melt my holes larger, worked like a dream. Only downside was it filled my tubs with smoke while I was melting through the plastic. After each hole was melted out, I quickly covered with masking tape. I ended up with two 1-1/4 sized holes on bottom and the same on top, adjacent from each other. Stuffed with new polyfil, medium, not tight, not loose. Last night one tub had hundreds of myc knots, good sign! Today I checked on them, humidity is perfect, nice fine dew on all sides of tubs, droplets on lid, knots are forming into pins, but...  trich!!! Dammit. I've learned a lot from this attempt, and so i will outline my mistakes.

1) I cheese grated BRF cakes, not the most sterile procedure!
2) I bought pelleted gypsum, which is great, but I threw in with other dry ingredients and dumped water on top to pasteurize, i was left with soggy gypsum chunks that I had to hand mix when blending my sub, a little sketchy. Next time I will dissolve in water and then add.
3) I added too thick a top layer of coir/verm over my spawn/coir/verm mix. Due to this, the surface didn't completely colonize. This I believe to be my main point of failure.
4) My FAE holes where too many and too small. I started with ten 1/2" holes, which I could barely stuff polyfil in, and once in, was twisted up and super tight.
5) I melted four of those holes bigger, introducing a cloud of smoke inside each tub, which no doubt settled on the substrate. On the upside, with four 1-1/4" diameter holes, I seem to have perfect (visual) conditions at 78 degrees F. So at least I got that down.
6) 48 hrs after the hole enlargement, I have green (probably trich) contamination. Its very seldom, only effecting uncolonized coir, but none the less, it's going to the trash. I will probably scrap the tubs too, just start over with correct holes for FAE.

I really think I introduced contam while enlarging the holes. I also think i set myself up for disaster by fruiting a partially colonized top layer (NOT to be confused with a casing! now i know...) Now, with four new syringes, my only decision left is WBS or rye!

7) another mistake I may have made but still unsure about, i only used 1-1/2 quarts of verm, instead of two, and it was fine grade. I've read medium or course is better for bulk. Thoughts?

8) Too much water! Thought i had wrung out to field capacity, but sub seems soggy. I'll use less initially next time. I have some pics to share...

Here's the green, it almost looks like algea from a fish tank, thick, not fuzzy like mold



Here's my other tub with all the knotting/primordia:



Bottom corner of the tub pinning, goes to show covering the outside of a clear tub does nothing to prevent side pinning. (I took the covering off to investigate)The green in this pic is a camera issue, not contam :



This tub with the pinning, had slightly green fuzz in two small spots. I misted with 3% H2O2, now it's gone. I'm confused. I'll keep monitoring because this is interesting...



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Re: Cobweb or cube? [Re: DJDubbleD]
    #22098034 - 08/16/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I know this thread kinda died but thought I'd update. The tub that was pinning looks good, mutated but first flush ksss so no surprise. I love these mario brother boomers!



I'm still observing the contaminated tub, it really looks like the cube is battling the green and actually winning. The tub has a little pooling on the bottom of what looks like coir juice, and you can tell by lifting the two tubs that my contaminated one was/is too wet. It is beginning to pin. It smells fine but with the contam and the pooling (possibly bacteria) I am not going to Fuck with anything growing off of it. Not worth it!

Would it be worth it to cut out the green and patch with dry verm, just for practice sake?? I'd like to see what's happening inside the sub.


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