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Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election?
    #22043272 - 08/04/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't live in America but I try to keep up to date with US politics as much as I can, purely because whatever moves and decisions are made there tend to influence a lot of other countries.

I'm curious who you guys hope will win the next Presidential Election and why?

I'm personally leaning towards Bernie Sanders, although I've read mixed reports on his stance on cannabis.

Regardless, I hope whoever gets into office puts an end to this ridiculous drug war (among other things) and starts making decisions for the betterment of our species. The current paradigm is not sustainable and I don't think citizens are going to stand for any more corruption and bullshit.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs] * 1
    #22043289 - 08/04/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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jsncrs said:
I don't think citizens are going to stand for any more corruption and bullshit.



:goodluckwiththat2:
Do some more reading on America's history and present situation. HAHAHA


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22043292 - 08/04/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In before the :shitstorm:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs] * 5
    #22043298 - 08/04/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22043302 - 08/04/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

SteveRogers said:
Do some more reading on America's history and present situation. HAHAHA




Maybe that was a little too optimistic. One can dream.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs] * 1
    #22043307 - 08/04/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

jsncrs said:
I don't live in America but I try to keep up to date with US politics as much as I can, purely because whatever moves and decisions are made there tend to influence a lot of other countries.

I'm curious who you guys hope will win the next Presidential Election and why?

I'm personally leaning towards Bernie Sanders, although I've read mixed reports on his stance on cannabis.

Regardless, I hope whoever gets into office puts an end to this ridiculous drug war (among other things) and starts making decisions for the betterment of our species. The current paradigm is not sustainable and I don't think citizens are going to stand for any more corruption and bullshit.




As bill maher said in his last show. He hopes that Obama does that as his last thing in office. Right before he goes out hes gunna toke out.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22043309 - 08/04/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dan Bilzerian


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043316 - 08/04/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.




That's actually an interesting point :strokebeard:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043317 - 08/04/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.




Theres a difference between an army general and a monkey. Trump will literally ruin the world if he wins.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22043321 - 08/04/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We need to elect a third party individual this time o'round.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043326 - 08/04/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trump will dispense the national budget in his own account.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #22043331 - 08/04/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

zappaisgod.  /thread

You fuckinhg hamsters know you would all love it


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22043334 - 08/04/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

kakashi68 said:
Quote:

jsncrs said:
I don't live in America but I try to keep up to date with US politics as much as I can, purely because whatever moves and decisions are made there tend to influence a lot of other countries.

I'm curious who you guys hope will win the next Presidential Election and why?

I'm personally leaning towards Bernie Sanders, although I've read mixed reports on his stance on cannabis.

Regardless, I hope whoever gets into office puts an end to this ridiculous drug war (among other things) and starts making decisions for the betterment of our species. The current paradigm is not sustainable and I don't think citizens are going to stand for any more corruption and bullshit.




As bill maher said in his last show. He hopes that Obama does that as his last thing in office. Right before he goes out hes gunna toke out.




:lol: fuck man that would be amazing. I feel like other parts of the world would almost instantly follow suit if the US called the drug war off.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22043349 - 08/04/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not voting for anyone who is serious about gun control, I know that.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043354 - 08/04/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
zappaisgod.  /thread

You fuckinhg hamsters know you would all love it




:llamastare:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22043371 - 08/04/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Donald trumps


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #22043382 - 08/04/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I feel like Bernie Sanders has a chance, actually, but that could just be due to my liberal Facebook bubble. He strikes me as a wing nut but he's been improving in the polls and I personally share his socialist leanings so I would prefer him over the neoliberal Hillary.

Honestly though I am not feeling inspired by anybody on the democratic side (which usually gets my vote) but the republican field is even more of a joke this time around than 2012. It seems like intelligent, reasonable people are becoming more and more disengaged from the political process.

I do think Hillary has the best chance in the end, since there are no charismatic centrists on either side.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043403 - 08/04/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.





I feel like I am saying this a lot these days, but I hope you are sodomized by Weasels.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043413 - 08/04/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It would be nice to see someone besides a lawyer win it. That alone would eliminate a lot of the crookedness.

>Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Neither was a lawyer


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22043426 - 08/04/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hillary Clinton is going to win...with jeb bush coming in at a close 2nd.

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22043431 - 08/04/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

hopefully joe biden runs


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22043477 - 08/04/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

kakashi68 said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.




Theres a difference between an army general and a monkey. Trump will literally ruin the world if he wins.




Lol. I don't even view this as hyperbole either.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: TheMule73]
    #22043504 - 08/04/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Theres no way Trump could be a worse president than George W Bush was


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It's just a shot away..


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22043509 - 08/04/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
I feel like Bernie Sanders has a chance, actually, but that could just be due to my liberal Facebook bubble. He strikes me as a wing nut but he's been improving in the polls and I personally share his socialist leanings so I would prefer him over the neoliberal Hillary.

Honestly though I am not feeling inspired by anybody on the democratic side (which usually gets my vote) but the republican field is even more of a joke this time around than 2012. It seems like intelligent, reasonable people are becoming more and more disengaged from the political process.

I do think Hillary has the best chance in the end, since there are no charismatic centrists on either side.




Hillary has got real problems.  She has a record of being a mendacious cunt but they do have a strong machine.  The Republicans?  Wow.  That is going to have to play out.  I loathe that serial bankrupt Trump and am backing Scott Walker.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22043513 - 08/04/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
hopefully joe biden runs




Yeah, that would be fun. That guy is hilarious.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22043519 - 08/04/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Theres no way Trump could be a worse president than George W Bush was




I don't know. When we feel like we hit rock bottom, there are always a few more floors below.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22043529 - 08/04/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They don't call him SloJo for nothing but at least he has more integrity than Pantsuits


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043554 - 08/04/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
They don't call him SloJo for nothing but at least he has more integrity than Pantsuits




SloJo, :lolsy:

You mean Biden? or G. Bu?


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22043559 - 08/04/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Biden.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22043590 - 08/04/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going to vote for Bernie Sanders myself. I figure I can at least throw one more vote away before I emigrate. I don't know for sure if he'll be able to win and even if he does, I'd expect more empty promises and policies that evaporate like a well-done smoky eye the moment he gets into office.

I'm kind of in the mindset of "If you're able to actually run for president in our modern oligarchy? I don't trust you."

Maybe I'm better off just voting for Putin. He looks damn fine on a horse.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22043617 - 08/04/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just because Trump is everything different from a scripted politician doesn't mean he 's an idiot. Idiot cannot become billionaires. Not even if they win the Powerball 3 ties in a row...

99.99% of multi-millionaire don't become billionaires... There's under 1500 billionaires on the planet... One of them is willing to drop it all and manage the fucking country. How do you not say yes to this??? How do you even refuse to consider it?

Sure, sure, managing a country isn't the same as managing a company... Then again, managing a toilet paper factory and managing the American Cancer Society are different things too and yet lots of managers and CEO's jump from private to charity and vice versa. Why should the government be any different?

Technically, the job of a President is to take the country (company) and manage it. He has to take care of the citizens (shareholders), manage their pensions, their healthcare, train them, make rules etc. He has to make them a profit by redistributing whatever is too much or absorbing the hit and not go bankrupt if something goes wrong.

It isn't as if private sector managers wouldn't able to wrap their heads around the change in procedure...

So what I'm saying is; would you gamble on a guy that doesn't even write his own speeches or the guy that managed a company for 40 years and secured a spot at the tip top of the ladder?


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22043642 - 08/04/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bob bop perono is the equalizer. Bob bop perono will save the human race. Bob bop perono doesn't care if your black white or yellow, rich poor, stupid or ugly, bob bop perono is the one who gets my vote.

Bob bop perono 2016!





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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043670 - 08/04/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trumps running is simply a political master stroke. Again and again trumps genious shines through and as expert analysts have anticipated he has risin to become the front runner in the republican field.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22043678 - 08/04/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A republican who will plunge America into the abyss.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043679 - 08/04/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Just because Trump is everything different from a scripted politician doesn't mean he 's an idiot. Idiot cannot become billionaires. Not even if they win the Powerball 3 ties in a row...

99.99% of multi-millionaire don't become billionaires... There's under 1500 billionaires on the planet... One of them is willing to drop it all and manage the fucking country. How do you not say yes to this??? How do you even refuse to consider it?

Sure, sure, managing a country isn't the same as managing a company... Then again, managing a toilet paper factory and managing the American Cancer Society and yet lots of managers and CEO's jump from private to charity and vice versa. Why should the government be any different?

Technically, the job of a President is to take the country (company) and manage it. He has to take care of the citizens (shareholders), manage their pensions, their healthcare, train them, make rules etc. He has to make them a profit by redistributing whatever is too much or absorbing the hit and not go bankrupt if something goes wrong.

It isn't as if private sector managers wouldn't able to wrap their heads around the change in procedure...

So what I'm saying is; would you gamble on a guy that doesn't even write his own speeches or the guy that managed a company for 40 years and secured a spot at the tip top of the ladder?




Interesting points.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043704 - 08/04/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

1.  Trump inherited a lot of money.  Reagan did not.  Nor did I
2.  He is a serial bankrupt.  He has probably fucked over more people than Madoff.  Not for as much but a lot more regular people
3.  He lost money on a casino and had it wrested from his control
4.  Do you know who can manage complicated  construction projects?  Me.
5.  Do you know who has never filed for bankruptcy?  Me.

VOTE ZIG 2016

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043738 - 08/04/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bernie Sanders is a fucking kook


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043745 - 08/04/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yea.. we dont need another hitler

or maybe we do.. :strokebeard:



anyway im voting for mr. potato head. he seems like a good candidate.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043748 - 08/04/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
1.  Trump inherited a lot of money.  Reagan did not.  Nor did I
2.  He is a serial bankrupt.  He has probably fucked over more people than Madoff.  Not for as much but a lot more regular people
3.  He lost money on a casino and had it wrested from his control
4.  Do you know who can manage complicated  construction projects?  Me.
5.  Do you know who has never filed for bankruptcy?  Me.

VOTE ZIG 2016

ZIG ZIG ZIG




How come 99.99999% of the people who inherit money don't become billionaires?

I admit, he went bankrupt with 4 companies. He has 392 companies to his name but he did fail will 4 of them.

You're a business man, you know just as well as I do that you can't make it if you fuck people over. You need friends out there. If you make an enemy of everyone you deal with, nobody will deal with you and the word will spread. You make contacts, you refer them, they refer you. That's how it works.

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043750 - 08/04/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Just because Trump is everything different from a scripted politician doesn't mean he 's an idiot. Idiot cannot become billionaires. Not even if they win the Powerball 3 ties in a row...

99.99% of multi-millionaire don't become billionaires... There's under 1500 billionaires on the planet... One of them is willing to drop it all and manage the fucking country. How do you not say yes to this??? How do you even refuse to consider it?

Sure, sure, managing a country isn't the same as managing a company... Then again, managing a toilet paper factory and managing the American Cancer Society are different things too and yet lots of managers and CEO's jump from private to charity and vice versa. Why should the government be any different?

Technically, the job of a President is to take the country (company) and manage it. He has to take care of the citizens (shareholders), manage their pensions, their healthcare, train them, make rules etc. He has to make them a profit by redistributing whatever is too much or absorbing the hit and not go bankrupt if something goes wrong.

It isn't as if private sector managers wouldn't able to wrap their heads around the change in procedure...

So what I'm saying is; would you gamble on a guy that doesn't even write his own speeches or the guy that managed a company for 40 years and secured a spot at the tip top of the ladder?




I understand where your coming from. But you are so wrong. Yes an "everyman" would probably make a good pres. But trump is the furthest thing from an everyman. He will get rid of the middle class, make things better for the rich and take the money from the poor and give it to the rich. Not to mention the rest of his garbage.


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    #22043775 - 08/04/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He has fucked millions of people over.  He is a huckster pure and simple.  Consider this.  There are still people in Europe who will lend money to Greece even though there is no chance they will get repaid.  Trump is not worth 10 billion dollars.  The total amount of his leveraged assets might reach that but that doessn't account for the loans.  Loans are generally not put on the asset side of the balance sheet.  They are put on the liabilities side.  He is more full of shit than two Christmas turkeys and the most lucrative thing he ever did was his TV show.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22043786 - 08/04/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Just because Trump is everything different from a scripted politician doesn't mean he 's an idiot. Idiot cannot become billionaires. Not even if they win the Powerball 3 ties in a row...

99.99% of multi-millionaire don't become billionaires... There's under 1500 billionaires on the planet... One of them is willing to drop it all and manage the fucking country. How do you not say yes to this??? How do you even refuse to consider it?

Sure, sure, managing a country isn't the same as managing a company... Then again, managing a toilet paper factory and managing the American Cancer Society are different things too and yet lots of managers and CEO's jump from private to charity and vice versa. Why should the government be any different?

Technically, the job of a President is to take the country (company) and manage it. He has to take care of the citizens (shareholders), manage their pensions, their healthcare, train them, make rules etc. He has to make them a profit by redistributing whatever is too much or absorbing the hit and not go bankrupt if something goes wrong.

It isn't as if private sector managers wouldn't able to wrap their heads around the change in procedure...

So what I'm saying is; would you gamble on a guy that doesn't even write his own speeches or the guy that managed a company for 40 years and secured a spot at the tip top of the ladder?




I understand where your coming from. But you are so wrong. Yes an "everyman" would probably make a good pres. But trump is the furthest thing from an everyman. He will get rid of the middle class, make things better for the rich and take the money from the poor and give it to the rich. Not to mention the rest of his garbage.




And my whole thought is. If we're going to have someone do that wouldn't it be MUCH better if he was at least a Judo champion and had a sexy Russian accent? I don't see how this could possibly go wrong.

What I really wish is that we had more than 2 damn parties to "officially" choose from. I know that's a stretch, but my hope is that some good third party contenders will eventually step up. I'll take a damn Anarcho-Libertarian over the crap we're being offered now.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043790 - 08/04/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.





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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22043796 - 08/04/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
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Patlal said:
Just because Trump is everything different from a scripted politician doesn't mean he 's an idiot. Idiot cannot become billionaires. Not even if they win the Powerball 3 ties in a row...

99.99% of multi-millionaire don't become billionaires... There's under 1500 billionaires on the planet... One of them is willing to drop it all and manage the fucking country. How do you not say yes to this??? How do you even refuse to consider it?

Sure, sure, managing a country isn't the same as managing a company... Then again, managing a toilet paper factory and managing the American Cancer Society are different things too and yet lots of managers and CEO's jump from private to charity and vice versa. Why should the government be any different?

Technically, the job of a President is to take the country (company) and manage it. He has to take care of the citizens (shareholders), manage their pensions, their healthcare, train them, make rules etc. He has to make them a profit by redistributing whatever is too much or absorbing the hit and not go bankrupt if something goes wrong.

It isn't as if private sector managers wouldn't able to wrap their heads around the change in procedure...

So what I'm saying is; would you gamble on a guy that doesn't even write his own speeches or the guy that managed a company for 40 years and secured a spot at the tip top of the ladder?




I understand where your coming from. But you are so wrong. Yes an "everyman" would probably make a good pres. But trump is the furthest thing from an everyman. He will get rid of the middle class, make things better for the rich and take the money from the poor and give it to the rich. Not to mention the rest of his garbage.




Yeah?

You have that crystal of yours right? Just because he's rich, he's automatically gonna favor them?

I say its the opposite. Because he is rich, he is immune to the influence of other rich people that want to buy influence.

Also, personally, if hhe has friends that can do a better job building a bridge and do it at a cheaper price, why shouldn't Trump hire that guy? To prevent him from becoming richer? So therefore we should hire a less competent guy just because Trump doesn't know him?

If Trump is that rich, its because he knows all the best guys and already is friends with them. So if he gives them the work, its because it better. Not because they're his friends...


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22043810 - 08/04/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Other rich people won't be able to fund congressional campaigns?  He isn't as rich as he says he is.  Has he pledged to self fund his campaign?  Is this where we want to go?  Only rich people should be President?


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043820 - 08/04/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

oh yeh trumps never made any money riiight:rolleyes:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043823 - 08/04/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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He has fucked millions of people over.  He is a huckster pure and simple.  Consider this.  There are still people in Europe who will lend money to Greece even though there is no chance they will get repaid.  Trump is not worth 10 billion dollars.  The total amount of his leveraged assets might reach that but that doessn't account for the loans.  Loans are generally not put on the asset side of the balance sheet.  They are put on the liabilities side.  He is more full of shit than two Christmas turkeys and the most lucrative thing he ever did was his TV show.




Millions have been fucked over by Trump? Millions?

Oh, so you mean the taxpayers paying for that bankruptcy law right? Well guess what, actual millions of people file for bankrutpcy every year.

Who gives a fuck what the man is worth. He's a billionaire, that is 100% backed by the numbers. He's one of the 1500 sitting on the highest possible step of the ladder.

Of course it's total assets - liabilities... The guy doesn't have 10 billion sitting in his checking account...


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22043829 - 08/04/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why do people think trump is in this for the money? He is worth some $10B right now, how is he going to do better as a politician? He is taking a huge pay cut if he accepts the presidency. As for zap's stupid points, lets refute them one by one.

>1.  Trump inherited a lot of money.  Reagan did not.  Nor did I

So what, who gives a crap? He multiplied it many times over

>2.  He is a serial bankrupt. 

A few of the nearly 400 companies he owned went bk, he did not personally

>He has probably fucked over more people than Madoff.  Not for as much but a lot more regular people

"probably" is bullshit.

>3.  He lost money on a casino and had it wrested from his control

So what.

>4.  Do you know who can manage complicated  construction projects?  Me.
>5.  Do you know who has never filed for bankruptcy?  Me.

Do you have $10B? No. Do you have $1B? No, so shut up already. Go hammer some nails.

Trump would be a breath of fresh air in the putrid halls of congress. Hill+billy is more of the same, jeb is more of the same. Vote trump or if he does not get the nomination, vote third party


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043832 - 08/04/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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  Has he pledged to self fund his campaign?



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043837 - 08/04/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Quote:

kakashi68 said:
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Patlal said:
Just because Trump is everything different from a scripted politician doesn't mean he 's an idiot. Idiot cannot become billionaires. Not even if they win the Powerball 3 ties in a row...

99.99% of multi-millionaire don't become billionaires... There's under 1500 billionaires on the planet... One of them is willing to drop it all and manage the fucking country. How do you not say yes to this??? How do you even refuse to consider it?

Sure, sure, managing a country isn't the same as managing a company... Then again, managing a toilet paper factory and managing the American Cancer Society are different things too and yet lots of managers and CEO's jump from private to charity and vice versa. Why should the government be any different?

Technically, the job of a President is to take the country (company) and manage it. He has to take care of the citizens (shareholders), manage their pensions, their healthcare, train them, make rules etc. He has to make them a profit by redistributing whatever is too much or absorbing the hit and not go bankrupt if something goes wrong.

It isn't as if private sector managers wouldn't able to wrap their heads around the change in procedure...

So what I'm saying is; would you gamble on a guy that doesn't even write his own speeches or the guy that managed a company for 40 years and secured a spot at the tip top of the ladder?




I understand where your coming from. But you are so wrong. Yes an "everyman" would probably make a good pres. But trump is the furthest thing from an everyman. He will get rid of the middle class, make things better for the rich and take the money from the poor and give it to the rich. Not to mention the rest of his garbage.




Yeah?

You have that crystal of yours right? Just because he's rich, he's automatically gonna favor them?

I say its the opposite. Because he is rich, he is immune to the influence of other rich people that want to buy influence.

Also, personally, if hhe has friends that can do a better job building a bridge and do it at a cheaper price, why shouldn't Trump hire that guy? To prevent him from becoming richer? So therefore we should hire a less competent guy just because Trump doesn't know him?

If Trump is that rich, its because he knows all the best guys and already is friends with them. So if he gives them the work, its because it better. Not because they're his friends...




I literally...can't even with this entire statement. Just...wow. So the pattern of history, stretched into our modern cosmos, where he rich will favor the rich because that's exactly how they maintain their leverage will magically change because...magic?

Like, have you studied any history at all? Economics? Which granted, is a bit of a soft science since it depends on "all things being equal" a bit much...
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Other rich people won't be able to fund congressional campaigns?  He isn't as rich as he says he is.  Has he pledged to self fund his campaign?  Is this where we want to go?  Only rich people should be President?




Isn't that pretty much what it is now? Who can actually afford to run for president if they don't already have backers and their own deep coffers to pull from?


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22043845 - 08/04/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh yeh trumps never made any money riiight:rolleyes:




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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043864 - 08/04/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Like personally? I doubt that.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22043880 - 08/04/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Why do people think trump is in this for the money? He is worth some $10B right now, how is he going to do better as a politician? He is taking a huge pay cut if he accepts the presidency. As for zap's stupid points, lets refute them one by one.

>1.  Trump inherited a lot of money.  Reagan did not.  Nor did I

So what, who gives a crap? He multiplied it many times over

>2.  He is a serial bankrupt. 

A few of the nearly 400 companies he owned went bk, he did not personally

>He has probably fucked over more people than Madoff.  Not for as much but a lot more regular people

"probably" is bullshit.

>3.  He lost money on a casino and had it wrested from his control

So what.

>4.  Do you know who can manage complicated  construction projects?  Me.
>5.  Do you know who has never filed for bankruptcy?  Me.

Do you have $10B? No. Do you have $1B? No, so shut up already. Go hammer some nails.

Trump would be a breath of fresh air in the putrid halls of congress. Hill+billy is more of the same, jeb is more of the same. Vote trump or if he does not get the nomination, vote third party




Not a single refutation there.  Trump said he has 10B.  Trump.  He is a serial liar.  He loses court cases all the time.  Trump is a total scumbag.  Not as scummy as Clinton or Obama but pretty scummy all the same.

What you guys don't understand is that I have lived in or around NYC most of my life which is approaching its 6th decade.  I know this guy.  He is a self aggrandizing piece of shit weasel who has ripped off millions of people.  You know him from his TV show.  I've known of him for decades and knew he was a piece of shit from the beginning.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: dionysiandame]
    #22043902 - 08/04/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Other rich people won't be able to fund congressional campaigns?  He isn't as rich as he says he is.  Has he pledged to self fund his campaign?  Is this where we want to go?  Only rich people should be President?




Isn't that pretty much what it is now? Who can actually afford to run for president if they don't already have backers and their own deep coffers to pull from?




Backers are outside money and a lot of them don't have much personal mosey.  They'd probably have more if they never went into politics


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043903 - 08/04/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

self aggrandizing is what has build his brand dummy


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22043915 - 08/04/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

annnd he fucks over millions of people because hes good at business. :flowstone:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043918 - 08/04/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What you guys don't understand is that I have lived in or around NYC most of my life which is approaching its 6th decade.  I know this guy.  He is a self aggrandizing piece of shit weasel who has ripped off millions of people.  You know him from his TV show.  I've known of him for decades and knew he was a piece of shit from the beginning.




Give me specific examples please? One detailed story would be good enough for me. I'm interested.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22043929 - 08/04/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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What you guys don't understand is that I have lived in or around NYC most of my life which is approaching its 6th decade.  I know this guy.  He is a self aggrandizing piece of shit weasel who has ripped off millions of people.  You know him from his TV show.  I've known of him for decades and knew he was a piece of shit from the beginning.




Give me specific examples please? One detailed story would be good enough for me. I'm interested.




He has no specifics, he is just jealous of the man. Trump makes more in an hour than zap does in a year.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22044008 - 08/04/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trump's stance on the drug war seems to be pretty open minded, but do any of you guys actually by the whole "Never touched drugs, nor alcohol, tobacco, or coffee." (Jul 2000)?  I am skeptical toward his recent poll results, and also something about him just seems false. On the brighter side, he would be the first president to be roasted on comedy central!


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    #22044013 - 08/04/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod.  /thread




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    #22044022 - 08/04/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

patial why do you specially want trump to win. Hes conservative douchebag who only cares about the rich. What POSSIBLE reason do you think he is going to improve the world. Just INHERITED MONEY and invested it. Thats just pure luck. Have you ever actually seen ANY of his interview or know ANYTHING about him? He is a horrible human being. Seriously it sounds like you have done zero research on him.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22044063 - 08/04/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What you guys don't understand is that I have lived in or around NYC most of my life which is approaching its 6th decade.  I know this guy.  He is a self aggrandizing piece of shit weasel who has ripped off millions of people.  You know him from his TV show.  I've known of him for decades and knew he was a piece of shit from the beginning.




Give me specific examples please? One detailed story would be good enough for me. I'm interested.




He has no specifics, he is just jealous of the man. Trump makes more in an hour than zap does in a year.




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In 1991, Trump's Taj Mahal located in Atlantic City was in debt for billions of dollars. As a result, Trump's corporation filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The Bankruptcy court allowed Trump to reorganize his corporate debts and allowed the casino to keep operating. Trump did surrender half of his ownership interests in the Taj Mahal. He chose to sell his yacht and airplane to help make loan payments.
In 1992, Trump filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on his Trump Plaza Hotel in Atlantic City. At this time, Trump owed $550 million on the Trump Plaza Hotel. As part of the restructuring, Trump gave Citibank a 49% interest in the hotel. He was given a lenient repayment plan. Trump was able to stay on as CEO but he had to give up his salary.
Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filed for bankruptcy in 2004. The corporation had $1.8 billion dollars of debt. Trump reduced his share in the company to 25% thereby surrendering his control of the corporation. The corporation received lower interest rates and another loan to upgrade the properties.
In 2009, Trump Entertainment Resorts filed bankruptcy after missing a large bond interest payment. Trump was not able to agree with his board of directors on a repayment plan so he resigned as chairman of the board and retained only a 10% ownership interest in the corporation.






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    #22044067 - 08/04/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod.  /thread




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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22044078 - 08/04/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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patial why do you specially want trump to win. Hes conservative douchebag who only cares about the rich. What POSSIBLE reason do you think he is going to improve the world. Just INHERITED MONEY and invested it. Thats just pure luck. Have you ever actually seen ANY of his interview or know ANYTHING about him? He is a horrible human being. Seriously it sounds like you have done zero research on him.




Don't you despise the United States? Pretty sure I specifically remember you trashing the US. You're in Australia, right? Why do you even care who gets elected here? And since you despise the US and really think Trump is an atrocious candidate, shouldn't you actually be rooting for him then? :lol:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22044083 - 08/04/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bush/Clinton 1992 2016.  Clinton wins


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22044089 - 08/04/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I loathe Trump, and find it funny that anyone would take his bid for the presidency seriously. I feel it is just more free publicity to "build his brand". When he shot to the top he was smart enough to go with it. Time will tell though if he really goes all-in and starts spending real money of his own.

As loathsome as he is though, he isn't stupid. Having already alienated Latinos, women and minorities would make winning the general election a very heavy lift - an impossible one at this time, IMO. Trump isn't going to risk on a sure loss, especially not a probable embarrassment

Plus he has to get through the primaries first. Establishment Pubs will all start gunning for him at some point, though for now most are biding their time because he is not a legitimate threat, current lead notwithstanding. He is more of a confounding variable. I sure don't see allies lining up to defend his honor, when they attacks ratchet up. I think every one of those other guys would readily throw Trump to the wolves the second the opportunity arose - not just because they are all trying to win, but also because many of them dislike him intensely, and the party establishment does not want this guy in the mix.

The real question for me is simply, when does he bail and how will he do it. Who knows though he might stay in longer than I think. He damn sure won't be president though.


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    #22044102 - 08/04/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A republican who will plunge America into the abyss.





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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044105 - 08/04/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ohhh wow one of trumps companies filed chapter 11 bankrupcy omfg WOW


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Void_Hawk]
    #22044109 - 08/04/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It is an intersesting question as to when the others will get winnowed down and stop dragging votes away from each other.  Trump is topped out.  Who among the rest will emerge?  I hope it is Walker.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22044111 - 08/04/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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ohhh wow one of trumps companies filed chapter 11 bankrupcy omfg WOW



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044115 - 08/04/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Zappa, you have not provided one instance in which trump "cheated millions" of people as you falsely claim. We already know some of his companies declared bankruptcy, big deal. You try to make him sound like a bad business man and broke. Then where did the $10B come from? He sure as hell didn't inherit that much. BTW, chapter 11 means they just restructure the debts, it does not mean all debts are cancelled. Your claim is rated false.

Piss off with your jealousy.

If hitlery wins its a disaster for the country. She has taken all the bribe money anyone has offered and is already bought and paid for. Trump is his own man.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044119 - 08/04/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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ohhh wow one of trumps companies filed chapter 11 bankrupcy omfg WOW



One?



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ohhh wow one of trumps companies filed chapter 11 bankrupcy omfg WOW



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22044120 - 08/04/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.




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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #22044133 - 08/04/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:

Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.




One would have to try really, really fucking hard to actually do worse than the guy that's currently holding office.





This is true though hitlery comes close to being worse, might even be worse.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22044159 - 08/04/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Zappa, you have not provided one instance in which trump "cheated millions" of people as you falsely claim. We already know some of his companies declared bankruptcy, big deal. You try to make him sound like a bad business man and broke. Then where did the $10B come from? He sure as hell didn't inherit that much. BTW, chapter 11 means they just restructure the debts, it does not mean all debts are cancelled. Your claim is rated false.

Piss off with your jealousy.

If hitlery wins its a disaster for the country. She has taken all the bribe money anyone has offered and is already bought and paid for. Trump is his own man.



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044163 - 08/04/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22044165 - 08/04/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe he should just be a senator/rep - they have their hands more directly in the money than the President - and that's literally the only thing he has to his credence, he can make money by any means necessary. Which is one small slice of government... there's the whole commander in chief of the worlds most powerful military thing, foreign policy and what not - and who in their right mind would want that asshat in such a position :lol:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: twighead]
    #22044213 - 08/04/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The banks lent him the money fair and square dewd not sure how thats screwing them over. I mean anyone who looks into why those companies had to file bankrupsy will find out how full of shit zappa is.

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1991 — The first of Trump’s bankruptcies is the only one where Trump’s personal assets took a major hit. The bankruptcy was driven by the debt on Trump’s Taj Mahal, which was financed with junk bonds that carried a 14 percent interest rate.

Both the economy and the interest in Atlantic City gambling sank shortly after the Taj Mahal was completed, leaving Trump’s corporation with $3.4 billion in debts. Trump had too much personal interest in this venture, and ended up having to relinquish half of his ownership, sell his Trump Shuttle airplane and Trump Princess yacht, and effectively be put on a budget by his creditors. Trump learned from that episode, and took greater care to shield his personal wealth.

We hate to contemplate a future where President Trump is forced to sell Air force One to pay the country’s debts.

1992 — This bankruptcy was a byproduct of the same economic conditions as 1991, this time involving the Trump Plaza Hotel. The deal was similar in nature to 1991 with less personal exposure. Citibank ended up with 49 percent interest in the hotel. Trump ended up with no salary but remained as CEO and received a fairly lenient repayment plan.

2004 — In 2004, it was the Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filing for bankruptcy with $1.8 billion in debt. Trump’s share was reduced to 25 percent, leaving him without the controlling interest. In return, the Donald received lower interest rates and a loan of $500 million targeted for improvements.

2009 — The real estate crash took a large toll on Trump’s real estate holdings, and upon missing a large bond interest payment, Trump Entertainment Resorts was off to bankruptcy court. Trump and his board of directors fought over the restructuring terms, culminating with Trump’s resignation and a continuing 10 percent ownership interest.

Budding Trumpologists may like to add the Trump International Golf Club Puerto Rico to this list, but its filing for bankruptcy in July of 2015 does not count. The filing corporation uses Trump’s name through a licensing agreement, but Trump has no ownership interest in the company.




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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22044231 - 08/04/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Vote limberbutt in 2016, bcuz meow is the time!!!


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22044245 - 08/04/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Chief, you are exactly right. Zap has nothing just bluster and bombast. Trump didn't cheat anyone on those deals. Chapter 11 means everyone gets paid but the owner, trump. Despite those setbacks he is richer than almost anyone. He makes more in an hour than zap does in a year of pounding nails and sawing boards.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22044248 - 08/04/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The banks lent him the money fair and square dewd not sure how thats screwing them over. I mean anyone who looks into why those companies had to file bankrupsy will find out how full of shit zappa is.

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1991 — The first of Trump’s bankruptcies is the only one where Trump’s personal assets took a major hit. The bankruptcy was driven by the debt on Trump’s Taj Mahal, which was financed with junk bonds that carried a 14 percent interest rate.

Both the economy and the interest in Atlantic City gambling sank shortly after the Taj Mahal was completed, leaving Trump’s corporation with $3.4 billion in debts. Trump had too much personal interest in this venture, and ended up having to relinquish half of his ownership, sell his Trump Shuttle airplane and Trump Princess yacht, and effectively be put on a budget by his creditors. Trump learned from that episode, and took greater care to shield his personal wealth.

We hate to contemplate a future where President Trump is forced to sell Air force One to pay the country’s debts.

1992 — This bankruptcy was a byproduct of the same economic conditions as 1991, this time involving the Trump Plaza Hotel. The deal was similar in nature to 1991 with less personal exposure. Citibank ended up with 49 percent interest in the hotel. Trump ended up with no salary but remained as CEO and received a fairly lenient repayment plan.

2004 — In 2004, it was the Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filing for bankruptcy with $1.8 billion in debt. Trump’s share was reduced to 25 percent, leaving him without the controlling interest. In return, the Donald received lower interest rates and a loan of $500 million targeted for improvements.

2009 — The real estate crash took a large toll on Trump’s real estate holdings, and upon missing a large bond interest payment, Trump Entertainment Resorts was off to bankruptcy court. Trump and his board of directors fought over the restructuring terms, culminating with Trump’s resignation and a continuing 10 percent ownership interest.

Budding Trumpologists may like to add the Trump International Golf Club Puerto Rico to this list, but its filing for bankruptcy in July of 2015 does not count. The filing corporation uses Trump’s name through a licensing agreement, but Trump has no ownership interest in the company.






Anybody who ever defaults on a loan anytime anywhere is a scumbag in my book.  No excuses.  If he has 10 billion dollars why didn't he just make good?  He had the cash, right?  He could have paid it, right?  He's a fucking reptile.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044269 - 08/04/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cuz the hotel/casino were in the shitter along with the rest of atlantic city. Would you use ur personal money to try to float that turd? You seem to think trump personally welched on a debt which simply isnt true.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Niffla]
    #22044286 - 08/04/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't you despise the United States? Pretty sure I specifically remember you trashing the US. You're in Australia, right? Why do you even care who gets elected here? And since you despise the US and really think Trump is an atrocious candidate, shouldn't you actually be rooting for him then? :lol:




I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm an Aussie and while I certainly don't despise the US, I do despise your "political" system and believe it has done an enormous amount of harm across the globe. As I stated in my initial post, the US (being the super power that it is) heavily influences ally countries. Our PM is like a rabbit that blindly follows Obama like he's got a carrot up his ass. I believe that in order for things to change in my country, the US has to lead the way. The leaders of our country aren't going to risk straying from the side of the largest Military power in existence.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Niffla]
    #22044290 - 08/04/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Niffla said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:

Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.




One would have to try really, really fucking hard to actually do worse than the guy that's currently holding office.





I disagree. Maybe it just seems like Obama is doing awful because of the mess he inherited. But what I do know is that Obama has done an awesome job compared to bush..


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #22044297 - 08/04/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Cuz the hotel/casino were in the shitter along with the rest of atlantic city. Would you use ur personal money to try to float that turd? You seem to think trump personally welched on a debt which simply isnt true.



He bought them.  Nobody made him invest in casinos.  He borrowed money.  He had money.  He stiffed people.  By that I mean he fucked them in the the ass.  Yes, Trump personally welched on a debt.  I am not that big on the corporate veil especially if you allegedly  have billions of other assets.  It isn't like he was going to lose his home.  He fucked people over.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22044302 - 08/04/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Niffla said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:

Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.




One would have to try really, really fucking hard to actually do worse than the guy that's currently holding office.





I disagree. Maybe it just seems like Obama is doing awful because of the mess he inherited. But what I do know is that Obama has done an awesome job compared to bush..



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #22044303 - 08/04/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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patial why do you specially want trump to win. Hes conservative douchebag who only cares about the rich. What POSSIBLE reason do you think he is going to improve the world. Just INHERITED MONEY and invested it. Thats just pure luck. Have you ever actually seen ANY of his interview or know ANYTHING about him? He is a horrible human being. Seriously it sounds like you have done zero research on him.




Don't you despise the United States? Pretty sure I specifically remember you trashing the US. You're in Australia, right? Why do you even care who gets elected here? And since you despise the US and really think Trump is an atrocious candidate, shouldn't you actually be rooting for him then? :lol:




Yes and this is one of the main reason I do. Many of the decisions murica makes affects the rest of the world. So when you fuck up, you spread waves of idiocy around the globe aswell without any remorse for fucking over other countries.

Remember, AMERICAN RUINED DRUGS FOR EVERYONE. You started the drug war, you brought it to the UN, you pushed for it, you ruined it for everyone else.


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    #22044347 - 08/04/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:

Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.




One would have to try really, really fucking hard to actually do worse than the guy that's currently holding office.





I disagree. Maybe it just seems like Obama is doing awful because of the mess he inherited. But what I do know is that Obama has done an awesome job compared to bush..




Yeah we'll agree to disagree. Obama's had two tenures. The blaming Bush excuse doesn't fly anymore. And in no reality, compared to Bush or who the hell ever, has Obama done an "awesome job". I'm not a conservative nor a democrat -- I'm not one of these party line sheep who just generalize and say shit like, "all republicans are bad", or "all liberals are bad". I don't have a dog in the race and I actually root for whomever is in office to do a good job -- because a good job by <insert president here> is good for the country.

Fact of the matter is, Obama has been fucking atrocious. And he has nobody to blame but himself and his administration.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22044356 - 08/04/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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patial why do you specially want trump to win. Hes conservative douchebag who only cares about the rich. What POSSIBLE reason do you think he is going to improve the world. Just INHERITED MONEY and invested it. Thats just pure luck. Have you ever actually seen ANY of his interview or know ANYTHING about him? He is a horrible human being. Seriously it sounds like you have done zero research on him.




Don't you despise the United States? Pretty sure I specifically remember you trashing the US. You're in Australia, right? Why do you even care who gets elected here? And since you despise the US and really think Trump is an atrocious candidate, shouldn't you actually be rooting for him then? :lol:




Yes and this is one of the main reason I do. Many of the decisions murica makes affects the rest of the world. So when you fuck up, you spread waves of idiocy around the globe aswell without any remorse for fucking over other countries.

Remember, AMERICAN RUINED DRUGS FOR EVERYONE. You started the drug war, you brought it to the UN, you pushed for it, you ruined it for everyone else.



Yes use america as a scape goat its fine were used to it. Your right america cares very little for the rest of the world. :rolleyes:


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    #22044386 - 08/04/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Remember, AMERICAN RUINED DRUGS FOR EVERYONE. You started the drug war, you brought it to the UN, you pushed for it, you ruined it for everyone else.






Dude you probably spend every free minute you have getting high. What's the problem? And lmfao, why are you saying YOU? As if the vast majority of citizens here had anything to do with the fucking drug war. I'm against the pointless drug war as much as the next guy, but the fact that you bring that point up first to discredit the United States shows how pathetic your priorities in life are.

WAHHHH I CAN'T GET MY DRUGS AT THE CORNER STORE WAHHHHHH LIFE IS SO UNFAIR WAHHHH I HAVE TO BE MORE DISCREET ABOUT MY DAILY DRUG USE WAHHHH

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    #22044392 - 08/04/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22044403 - 08/04/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.





Ronald Reagan was a politician


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044408 - 08/04/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

austrailia has taken it on themselves to be one of the strictest aswell so go figure :shrug:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22044423 - 08/04/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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patial why do you specially want trump to win. Hes conservative douchebag who only cares about the rich. What POSSIBLE reason do you think he is going to improve the world. Just INHERITED MONEY and invested it. Thats just pure luck. Have you ever actually seen ANY of his interview or know ANYTHING about him? He is a horrible human being. Seriously it sounds like you have done zero research on him.




Don't you despise the United States? Pretty sure I specifically remember you trashing the US. You're in Australia, right? Why do you even care who gets elected here? And since you despise the US and really think Trump is an atrocious candidate, shouldn't you actually be rooting for him then? :lol:




Yes and this is one of the main reason I do. Many of the decisions murica makes affects the rest of the world. So when you fuck up, you spread waves of idiocy around the globe aswell without any remorse for fucking over other countries.

Remember, AMERICAN RUINED DRUGS FOR EVERYONE. You started the drug war, you brought it to the UN, you pushed for it, you ruined it for everyone else.





does the US listen to the UN? does Russia listen to the UN? does China listen
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22044436 - 08/04/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.





Ronald Reagan was a politician



He was also a union president


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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patial why do you specially want trump to win. Hes conservative douchebag who only cares about the rich. What POSSIBLE reason do you think he is going to improve the world. Just INHERITED MONEY and invested it. Thats just pure luck. Have you ever actually seen ANY of his interview or know ANYTHING about him? He is a horrible human being. Seriously it sounds like you have done zero research on him.




Don't you despise the United States? Pretty sure I specifically remember you trashing the US. You're in Australia, right? Why do you even care who gets elected here? And since you despise the US and really think Trump is an atrocious candidate, shouldn't you actually be rooting for him then? :lol:




Yes and this is one of the main reason I do. Many of the decisions murica makes affects the rest of the world. So when you fuck up, you spread waves of idiocy around the globe aswell without any remorse for fucking over other countries.

Remember, AMERICAN RUINED DRUGS FOR EVERYONE. You started the drug war, you brought it to the UN, you pushed for it, you ruined it for everyone else.





does the US listen to the UN? does Russia listen to the UN? does China listen
to the UN? We know Iraq didnt listen to the UN, in fact I'm not sure any
country actually listens to the UN


your country made it's own laws




Its only one example. And yes it didnt "directly" make laws. But in order to keep powerful people as friends its best to keep them happy.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22044527 - 08/04/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.





Yeah man, let's get an old right wing nut who has a net worth of over $4 billion and allow him to make rational decisions that affect an entire country full of mostly poor and middle class citizens.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22044535 - 08/04/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Let me tell what I think of Trump.  I wouldn't bid on a job he was involved in.  He is a skunk.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22044538 - 08/04/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you dont vote for limberbutt the cat vote pris/Zimmerman...

Sorry i cant take any candidate seriously, but there is a cat who registered to run...ill let you all get back to your banter.


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    #22044543 - 08/04/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ZIG ZIG ZIG ZIG

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044558 - 08/04/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Only if you legalize pot and pardon me if i go to jail later this month...


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: thizzlemaniac]
    #22044568 - 08/04/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The President cannot legalize pot but I will pardon you depending on what you are charged with


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044584 - 08/04/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Lets just say 2 felonies...not drug crimes...but thanks for caring zappa, you won my vote


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044704 - 08/04/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Let me tell what I think of Trump.  I wouldn't bid on a job he was involved in.  He is a skunk.




I don't blame you, Trump has a history of withholding payment and then ginning up contract "disputes" so his lawyers can delay while the other party bleeds out. Their fault for being poor I guess.

If this practice fails or can't be used in a given case, threats of blackballing and meddling in various forms, character assassination, it is all on the table. Trump is a greedy and vindictive person willing to harm others for gain without a thought, be it for money or merely to "win" and stoke his own ego further.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22044720 - 08/04/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1.  Trump inherited a lot of money.  Reagan did not.  Nor did I
2.  He is a serial bankrupt.  He has probably fucked over more people than Madoff.  Not for as much but a lot more regular people
3.  He lost money on a casino and had it wrested from his control
4.  Do you know who can manage complicated  construction projects?  Me.
5.  Do you know who has never filed for bankruptcy?  Me.

VOTE ZIG 2016

ZIG ZIG ZIG




How come 99.99999% of the people who inherit money don't become billionaires?

I admit, he went bankrupt with 4 companies. He has 392 companies to his name but he did fail will 4 of them.

You're a business man, you know just as well as I do that you can't make it if you fuck people over. You need friends out there. If you make an enemy of everyone you deal with, nobody will deal with you and the word will spread. You make contacts, you refer them, they refer you. That's how it works.

And yes, I'd vote for you.



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: thizzlemaniac]
    #22044722 - 08/04/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22044728 - 08/04/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wow he doesn't look guilty for being white at all


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22044741 - 08/04/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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There we go! I vote for the elf prince Sam Harris




I've been listening to Sam Harris' lectures all day at work. He's the man.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Void_Hawk]
    #22044805 - 08/04/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trumps is a wholesome businessman's businessman. Hes a true maverick and has decades of business executive experience. with the broad array of threats the country faces today both forgin and domestic I think the american public needs to serious consider who the should elect to the executive office. This election comes a truly pivotal moment in americas history. fucking trumps running unbelieveble


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Atreyu]
    #22045381 - 08/05/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sam Harris most certainly is no mere man good  sir! The wise elf people take umbrige with that accusation

No, but he is rad. His new book, Waking up, should be mandatory in school.  America is a country with based on pleasure rather then self examination or even sense. No philosophy.
Freedom means 'fuck you, I'll get as fat as I wasn't so YOU have to pay for me. Don't tell me I'm a gross blob, god made me this way'
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22045439 - 08/05/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Clinton.
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22045698 - 08/05/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It'll be a republican, no doubt about that. It's just a question of which one.

It'll be Bush, Walker, or (and I hate to say this) Trump. Frankly, I can't believe Trump is polling as well as he is. I keep thinking that he's going to crash and burn, but it hasn't happened yet much to my surprise. I can't believe he even got this far. Since I've been wrong about Trump getting this far, I don't want to speculate much on his future.

The debates will be interesting IF someone scores some serious attacks. It'll be very difficult to cut through the crowd in the first debate, but if someone does it'll be big.

Schwarzenegger won California on a single excellent line (one of the best lines in politics ever) in his first debate, and like this debate it was crowded with no clear frontrunner going in. He went from polling mediocrely to waaay above and beyond the other candidates on that one line. They could have handed him the governorship after that debate. And god damn he was the best governor we ever had, and I wish we could vote him in again. Stuff like that can and does happen.

Whether or not it will happen here, who knows. I'll be watching it for sure though.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: nooneman]
    #22045701 - 08/05/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Schwarzenegger won California on a single excellent line (one of the best lines in politics ever)



That would be what?


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: thizzlemaniac]
    #22045704 - 08/05/15 04:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22045741 - 08/05/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Schwarzenegger won California on a single excellent line (one of the best lines in politics ever)



That would be what?



"If you want to campaign against Bush, go to New Hampshire. It's the proper place for you. You're in the wrong state right now."

That line was played over and over on every news station for months. They even brought it up when he was up for reelection. It's still probably the most famous line he said as a candidate in either election.

You have to understand California politics. It may not be obvious, but California politically has a strong independent streak like Texas. Californians are incredibly proud that we're the eighth largest economy in the world. Since the 60s, the federal government has been looked at as distant, disconnected, unimportant, and even holding California back. There's this tangible feeling that California can (and should) stand on it's own, fuck the federal government interfering with our affairs.

Californians want a candidate that cares about California problems, not US problems. That line bit into that California independent streak hook line and sinker. It said that he cared about California and California issues, that he didn't give a damn about the federal government and their issues.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: nooneman]
    #22046087 - 08/05/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: @ people thinking trump will win


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: nooneman]
    #22046090 - 08/05/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Zappa still has not shown where trump "cheated millions of people" like he tried to tell us. A company going through chapter 11 is not cheating anyone. The banks were forced to restructure the debt, that's all that happened. People got paid, no contractors got stiffed. Zap is crying because he is jealous.

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    #22046135 - 08/05/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trump running is like the greatest thing to happen. The first major thing is the farther trump goes the more laughs were gonna get outta this. I mean the potential lulz are astronomical.  Th is  has the possibility to be the greatest Presidential elections ever seen. Second he's managed to split the Republican party and stolen all the retard votes. Retard votes are what the Republican canadicy is build on...its like their backbone. The more people we can rally to trumps now the better it is for america.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22046158 - 08/05/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Doesn't trump do this every 4 years?
Just to wave his dick in everyone's face basically.
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22046175 - 08/05/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Calling it as I see it from across the pond, I must say I agree with your insights regarding Trump and I much rather see you (the real you not the persona) for president than Trump.

Really I hope that people won't be too dazzled by his so called success that they choose him, he's the wrong candidate for the job in my view. It would totally be about him and his friends and not about the best interest of anyone else.

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Asante]
    #22046214 - 08/05/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The guys a goddamn genius fucking brilliant unbelievable.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Asante]
    #22046249 - 08/05/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Calling it as I see it from across the pond, I must say I agree with your insights regarding Trump and I much rather see you (the real you not the persona) for president than Trump.

Really I hope that people won't be too dazzled by his so called success that they choose him, he's the wrong candidate for the job in my view. It would totally be about him and his friends and not about the best interest of anyone else.

His loyalty is his pot of gold.




Trump called out the corporate powers who want to continue their globalization despite the pain it brings to US citizens, when was the last time Obama suggested tariffs on products when companies move their operations out of the US and then export them into the US?  Not gonna happen, in fact Obama and the gang are pushing it one step further with the TPP.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Asante]
    #22046443 - 08/05/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What's Obama got to do with it? You're acting like I'm pro Obama.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Asante]
    #22046452 - 08/05/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trump will save us from the commies


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Asante]
    #22046563 - 08/05/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What's Obama got to do with it? You're acting like I'm pro Obama.




Since you're speculating that Trump would turn into the major sellout, I thought I would show that our current President who is bought and paid for is in a fact a major sellout. I never heard the word "tariffs" come out of Obama's mouth.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Patlal]
    #22046569 - 08/05/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Look aT Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.






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    #22046577 - 08/05/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hillary Clinton is going to win...with jeb bush coming in at a close 2nd.

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    #22046580 - 08/05/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I genuinely think Bernie will win the election.


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    #22046624 - 08/05/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

that might be pretty cool if it happened, but i wouldn't count on democrats to show up in the general election even if he somehow wins the primary race


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    #22046743 - 08/05/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Trump will save us from the commies



You mean Muslems
Muslems are the problem now. Look how they are fucking up Europe because of liberal's weeping pussy of need for all cultures to mix into one big Gardettos bowl of harmony, when really you just want those damn Rye chips. All we get are pretzels if the Muslems win.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22046868 - 08/05/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hillary Clinton, a huge corporate shill and warmonger, has already been chosen by the Elite as our next president of the United States.

Trust me. Hillary is going to get the nomination, and she is going to win. Bernie doesn't stand a chance - he does not have the favor of the globalists.

Calling it now. Hitlery is going to be the winner. I will bump this post in 2016.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: qman]
    #22047030 - 08/05/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Since you're speculating that Trump would turn into the major sellout,





You can't become a billionaire without fucking everyone over that crosses your path. There is no morally honest way to get that kind of money.

Don't be taken in by his wealth :bitchslap:


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    #22047743 - 08/05/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It would be nice if either asante or zap could back up their claims that trump cheated lots of people. Declaring bankruptcy does not cut it. Sounds like jealousy to me.


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    #22047796 - 08/05/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

dude i hope jim carrey runs for president, i would soooo vote for him


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22048320 - 08/05/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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A republican who will plunge America into the abyss.





Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.





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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zZZz]
    #22048373 - 08/05/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wish John Stewart or Bill Maher would run for president. They would make a good pair too.

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    #22048431 - 08/05/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This thread is full of lul...

"Trump will save us from the commies"

...what the fuck?



God damn it hurts to see so many people strong right wing here, the entire party this election has been full of fail and it seems like we're gonna be heading back to the 1950's again pretty soon. Yay for "Conserving our past, failed, replaced laws.





Like do the people who are all for the right wing candidates not see the sheer amount of hate towards woman and at risk (health wise) people? ALL of the republican candidates want to cut ALL funding for woman's health care and make it illegal to have abortions and other planned parenthood things. They want to revoke health care from millions of people who cannot afford it. They think that if you get sick that it is your fault and if you can fix your problem then you deserve to die. You sick, miserable fucks.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22048484 - 08/05/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This thread is full of lul...

"Trump will save us from the commies"

...what the fuck?



God damn it hurts to see so many people strong right wing here, the entire party this election has been full of fail and it seems like we're gonna be heading back to the 1950's again pretty soon. Yay for "Conserving our past, failed, replaced laws.





Like do the people who are all for the right wing candidates not see the sheer amount of hate towards woman and at risk (health wise) people? ALL of the republican candidates want to cut ALL funding for woman's health care and make it illegal to have abortions and other planned parenthood things. They want to revoke health care from millions of people who cannot afford it. They think that if you get sick that it is your fault and if you can fix your problem then you deserve to die. You sick, miserable fucks.




:lolwut:  Women will always have plenty of access to health care, and abortion will also remain legal.  Hows the Dems been taking care of poor people the last 6 years?  :lol:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: qman]
    #22048521 - 08/05/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Okay no.... that is one of the biggest controversies for the 2016 election. The general consensus for all republican candidates so far is that they want to make the removal of planned parenthood and other women's healthcare a top priority.




And all I am saying about general healthcare is that it is really sick that some greasy fucking moneybag would let a helpless child die because they were born into a house of crackheads and got some terrible infection. How, oh please how, does a child hold responsibility if they get sick and their parents cannot afford to help them?


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22048544 - 08/05/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Zappa still has not shown where trump "cheated millions of people" like he tried to tell us. A company going through chapter 11 is not cheating anyone. The banks were forced to restructure the debt, that's all that happened. People got paid, no contractors got stiffed. Zap is crying because he is jealous.

Go trump go!



Anybody who files for bankruptcy any time is cheating everybody.  It screws the shareholders of the banks and raises the interest rates for everybody else.  He has defaulted on hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions, in loans.  That fucks everybody.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: qman]
    #22048557 - 08/05/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Calling it as I see it from across the pond, I must say I agree with your insights regarding Trump and I much rather see you (the real you not the persona) for president than Trump.

Really I hope that people won't be too dazzled by his so called success that they choose him, he's the wrong candidate for the job in my view. It would totally be about him and his friends and not about the best interest of anyone else.

His loyalty is his pot of gold.




Trump called out the corporate powers who want to continue their globalization despite the pain it brings to US citizens, when was the last time Obama suggested tariffs on products when companies move their operations out of the US and then export them into the US?  Not gonna happen, in fact Obama and the gang are pushing it one step further with the TPP.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Asante]
    #22048575 - 08/05/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Since you're speculating that Trump would turn into the major sellout,





You can't become a billionaire without fucking everyone over that crosses your path. There is no morally honest way to get that kind of money.

Don't be taken in by his wealth :bitchslap:



That isn't entirely true.  If you invent something that billions of people want you do not have to fuck people over.  Trump, however has screwed a lot of people and sued a lot of people in bullshit lawsuits that he lost but nonetheless enriched lawyers and harmed the defendants just by that act.  He's a fucking scumbag..


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22048586 - 08/05/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It would be nice if either asante or zap could back up their claims that trump cheated lots of people. Declaring bankruptcy does not cut it. Sounds like jealousy to me.



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #22048634 - 08/05/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Okay no.... that is one of the biggest controversies for the 2016 election. The general consensus for all republican candidates so far is that they want to make the removal of planned parenthood and other women's healthcare a top priority.




And all I am saying about general healthcare is that it is really sick that some greasy fucking moneybag would let a helpless child die because they were born into a house of crackheads and got some terrible infection. How, oh please how, does a child hold responsibility if they get sick and their parents cannot afford to help them?




They just don't want to fund all that planned parenthood health care, they don't want to get rid of it.

If you're a child that gets very sick in a 3rd world nation they die, in the US they get free care, what are you even complaining about?


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22048652 - 08/05/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Calling it as I see it from across the pond, I must say I agree with your insights regarding Trump and I much rather see you (the real you not the persona) for president than Trump.

Really I hope that people won't be too dazzled by his so called success that they choose him, he's the wrong candidate for the job in my view. It would totally be about him and his friends and not about the best interest of anyone else.

His loyalty is his pot of gold.




Trump called out the corporate powers who want to continue their globalization despite the pain it brings to US citizens, when was the last time Obama suggested tariffs on products when companies move their operations out of the US and then export them into the US?  Not gonna happen, in fact Obama and the gang are pushing it one step further with the TPP.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership



:picard:Trump is a corporate power




Nevertheless Trump brought up some key issues that the other candidates fail to address, the fact that he's wealthy doesn't discredit those points.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22048702 - 08/05/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm hoping for Bernie or Warren. Good or bad, we need to try a new approacch to dealthg with the outside world
We should alsonbomb the everliving shit out of Saudi Arabia, destroying the center of Wahabee power, and taking their homophobic piece of shit cultures oil for cheap
God Islam is so boring and unpleasent

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: qman]
    #22048709 - 08/05/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh I agree with much of what he says.  Not the protectionism but certainly the immigration crap.  It is just that I think he personally is a reprehensible scumbag.  Don't forget.  I live in NY just outside NYC.  Trump has been on my radar for decades.  I have found him loathesome for decades.  He is a self aggrandizing punk who has ripped people off, harassed people with bullshit lawsuits, stiffed contractors and been a general jerkoff.  I can't fucking stand the guy.  People like stonehenge are just now learning of him because of his assinine TV show and his campaign.

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: qman]
    #22048733 - 08/05/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Okay no.... that is one of the biggest controversies for the 2016 election. The general consensus for all republican candidates so far is that they want to make the removal of planned parenthood and other women's healthcare a top priority.




And all I am saying about general healthcare is that it is really sick that some greasy fucking moneybag would let a helpless child die because they were born into a house of crackheads and got some terrible infection. How, oh please how, does a child hold responsibility if they get sick and their parents cannot afford to help them?




They just don't want to fund all that planned parenthood health care, they don't want to get rid of it.

If you're a child that gets very sick in a 3rd world nation they die, in the US they get free care, what are you even complaining about?





USA isn't a 3rd world country.... That is why I am complaining. Are you saying conservatism is 3rd world? Sounds about right

And what makes you think they don't want to get rid of it? Defunding is just a first step. Then the next is to eliminate it while it is weak...


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22048832 - 08/05/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I sinceriously wish that Trump wins it. I'm so desperately want to see someone that isn't a politician win.

Look a Reagan. Professional actor. Best Prez of the last 50 years.
Eisenhower. Army General, Amazing Prez.

Take away the politician credentials and suddenly you have a competent man running the country.





Ronald Reagan was a politician




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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22048838 - 08/05/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh I agree with much of what he says.  Not the protectionism but certainly the immigration crap.  It is just that I think he personally is a reprehensible scumbag.  Don't forget.  I live in NY just outside NYC.  Trump has been on my radar for decades.  I have found him loathesome for decades.  He is a self aggrandizing punk who has ripped people off, harassed people with bullshit lawsuits, stiffed contractors and been a general jerkoff.  I can't fucking stand the guy.  People like stonehenge are just now learning of him because of his assinine TV show and his campaign.

He has no shot




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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22048882 - 08/05/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>Anybody who files for bankruptcy any time is cheating everybody.

Not true at all. Do you even have a clue what goes on in a chapter 11 bk? Of course you don't so I will educate you. They restructure the debt, that is the main thing that happens. Instead of going into default, they get more time. The price paid is the owners often lose part of their interest which is what happened to trump. He lost, the workers got paid, contrary to what you claimed a while back, and even the banks got paid.

>It screws the shareholders of the banks

Oh cry me a river for the greedy damn banks. They got paid, interest too.

> Trump has been on my radar for decades

You have been jealous of him for years. Try to let it go, he is just better than you. He makes more in an hour than you do in a year.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22048890 - 08/05/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22048968 - 08/05/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Which quote are u referring to exactly? The one in the pic? If so i have no idea whos quote that is. But it does bring up a good point huh


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The pic is the one. That is very Sam Harris. He makes you figure out where the observer is, and how he doesn't exist and stuff


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22048988 - 08/05/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>Anybody who files for bankruptcy any time is cheating everybody.

Not true at all. Do you even have a clue what goes on in a chapter 11 bk? Of course you don't so I will educate you. They restructure the debt, that is the main thing that happens. Instead of going into default, they get more time. The price paid is the owners often lose part of their interest which is what happened to trump. He lost, the workers got paid, contrary to what you claimed a while back, and even the banks got paid.

>It screws the shareholders of the banks

Oh cry me a river for the greedy damn banks. They got paid, interest too.

> Trump has been on my radar for decades

You have been jealous of him for years. Try to let it go, he is just better than you. He makes more in an hour than you do in a year.


I am not jeaqlous of Donald Trump.  I am doing quite well.  I can assure you that I do not want to be him.  The banks did not get paid and everybody who borrows oney gets screwed whenever there ias a bankruptcy becauses it raises interest rates.  The banks did not get paid and his partners got totally fucked.


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    #22049012 - 08/05/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>I am not jeaqlous of Donald Trump.  I am doing quite well.  I can assure you that I do not want to be him.  The banks did not get paid and everybody who borrows oney gets screwed whenever there ias a bankruptcy becauses it raises interest rates.  The banks did not get paid and his partners got totally fucked.

Got anything to back that up with? I didn't think so. You are thinking of a chapter 7 in which assets are liquidated and everyone gets a portion. In chapter 11 its different. I tried to explain but anything more complicated than third grade level goes right over your head.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22049059 - 08/05/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Everybody lost money on his casinos.  Are you daft?  It has been posted.  Here's another article about it
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/06/donald-trump-companies-bankruptcy-atlantic-city


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    #22049081 - 08/05/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ever the bluffer, your link says no such thing. It says trump lost a bundle on those 4 deals, it doesn't say anyone else did. Once again you come up empty. Here is a tip, don't play poker, you are terrible at bluffing.


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    #22049097 - 08/05/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22049156 - 08/05/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Ever the bluffer, your link says no such thing. It says trump lost a bundle on those 4 deals, it doesn't say anyone else did. Once again you come up empty. Here is a tip, don't play poker, you are terrible at bluffing.



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    #22049240 - 08/05/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>Yeah, he lost a bundle.  And so did everybody else

Who? Links please, we don't take your word for it anymore. Never did.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22049274 - 08/05/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

All his partners and lenders.  Why do you suck Trump so much?  He's a fucking asshole and a huge supporter of Israel.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22049298 - 08/05/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

As usual you give no evidence, no links nothing just your hot air opinion.

If someone invested along with him and lost money as trump did, that is the breaks. Investors are not guaranteed a profit, you take your chances. You told us a while back the workers did not get paid and you lied. Why bother replying when you have nothing but hot air? You have not shown one person that lost money except perhaps a speculator.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22049461 - 08/05/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-stories-about-donald-trump-you-wont-believe-are-true/

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The purchase was financed by a $380 million loan from 22 banks and not one of them ever saw a cent.




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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22049612 - 08/05/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Waka Flocka Flame

:heytherebadboy:


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22049788 - 08/05/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Your source is a site called "cracked"? Lol, you lost already. They cite a time article which claims, without anything to back it up, that ownership of the airline was turned over to creditors. That sounds like a lot more than not a "cent" as you claim. He lost his entire investment, whatever it was, and they got the airline. Try again.

What about your other wild windy story that trump didn't pay any of his workmen? Are you running from that one too?


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22050424 - 08/05/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The corporations money will win


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #22050462 - 08/05/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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JayZ Morgan said:
The corporations money will win



It was meant to be


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #22050559 - 08/05/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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JayZ Morgan said:
The corporations money will win




That's a given.


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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
    #22050568 - 08/05/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Rand Paul you fools


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