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Niffla



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22044013 - 08/04/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: zappaisgod. /thread
you got my vote bruh
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kakashi68
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Confucian]
#22044022 - 08/04/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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patial why do you specially want trump to win. Hes conservative douchebag who only cares about the rich. What POSSIBLE reason do you think he is going to improve the world. Just INHERITED MONEY and invested it. Thats just pure luck. Have you ever actually seen ANY of his interview or know ANYTHING about him? He is a horrible human being. Seriously it sounds like you have done zero research on him.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22044063 - 08/04/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What you guys don't understand is that I have lived in or around NYC most of my life which is approaching its 6th decade. I know this guy. He is a self aggrandizing piece of shit weasel who has ripped off millions of people. You know him from his TV show. I've known of him for decades and knew he was a piece of shit from the beginning.
Give me specific examples please? One detailed story would be good enough for me. I'm interested.
He has no specifics, he is just jealous of the man. Trump makes more in an hour than zap does in a year.
http://thelawdictionary.org/article/how-is-donald-trump-able-to-file-for-bankruptcy-so-many-times/
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In 1991, Trump's Taj Mahal located in Atlantic City was in debt for billions of dollars. As a result, Trump's corporation filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The Bankruptcy court allowed Trump to reorganize his corporate debts and allowed the casino to keep operating. Trump did surrender half of his ownership interests in the Taj Mahal. He chose to sell his yacht and airplane to help make loan payments. In 1992, Trump filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on his Trump Plaza Hotel in Atlantic City. At this time, Trump owed $550 million on the Trump Plaza Hotel. As part of the restructuring, Trump gave Citibank a 49% interest in the hotel. He was given a lenient repayment plan. Trump was able to stay on as CEO but he had to give up his salary. Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filed for bankruptcy in 2004. The corporation had $1.8 billion dollars of debt. Trump reduced his share in the company to 25% thereby surrendering his control of the corporation. The corporation received lower interest rates and another loan to upgrade the properties. In 2009, Trump Entertainment Resorts filed bankruptcy after missing a large bond interest payment. Trump was not able to agree with his board of directors on a repayment plan so he resigned as chairman of the board and retained only a 10% ownership interest in the corporation.
Piss off.
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Niffla]
#22044067 - 08/04/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: zappaisgod. /thread
you got my vote bruh

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Niffla



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: kakashi68]
#22044078 - 08/04/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: patial why do you specially want trump to win. Hes conservative douchebag who only cares about the rich. What POSSIBLE reason do you think he is going to improve the world. Just INHERITED MONEY and invested it. Thats just pure luck. Have you ever actually seen ANY of his interview or know ANYTHING about him? He is a horrible human being. Seriously it sounds like you have done zero research on him.
Don't you despise the United States? Pretty sure I specifically remember you trashing the US. You're in Australia, right? Why do you even care who gets elected here? And since you despise the US and really think Trump is an atrocious candidate, shouldn't you actually be rooting for him then?
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
#22044083 - 08/04/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bush/Clinton 1992 2016. Clinton wins
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Void_Hawk
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22044089 - 08/04/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I loathe Trump, and find it funny that anyone would take his bid for the presidency seriously. I feel it is just more free publicity to "build his brand". When he shot to the top he was smart enough to go with it. Time will tell though if he really goes all-in and starts spending real money of his own.
As loathsome as he is though, he isn't stupid. Having already alienated Latinos, women and minorities would make winning the general election a very heavy lift - an impossible one at this time, IMO. Trump isn't going to risk on a sure loss, especially not a probable embarrassment
Plus he has to get through the primaries first. Establishment Pubs will all start gunning for him at some point, though for now most are biding their time because he is not a legitimate threat, current lead notwithstanding. He is more of a confounding variable. I sure don't see allies lining up to defend his honor, when they attacks ratchet up. I think every one of those other guys would readily throw Trump to the wolves the second the opportunity arose - not just because they are all trying to win, but also because many of them dislike him intensely, and the party establishment does not want this guy in the mix.
The real question for me is simply, when does he bail and how will he do it. Who knows though he might stay in longer than I think. He damn sure won't be president though.
.. edit for typo
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Asante] 1
#22044102 - 08/04/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said: A republican who will plunge America into the abyss.
Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22044105 - 08/04/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ohhh wow one of trumps companies filed chapter 11 bankrupcy omfg WOW
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zappaisgod
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Void_Hawk]
#22044109 - 08/04/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is an intersesting question as to when the others will get winnowed down and stop dragging votes away from each other. Trump is topped out. Who among the rest will emerge? I hope it is Walker.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22044111 - 08/04/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: ohhh wow one of trumps companies filed chapter 11 bankrupcy omfg WOW
One?
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22044115 - 08/04/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Zappa, you have not provided one instance in which trump "cheated millions" of people as you falsely claim. We already know some of his companies declared bankruptcy, big deal. You try to make him sound like a bad business man and broke. Then where did the $10B come from? He sure as hell didn't inherit that much. BTW, chapter 11 means they just restructure the debts, it does not mean all debts are cancelled. Your claim is rated false.
Piss off with your jealousy.
If hitlery wins its a disaster for the country. She has taken all the bribe money anyone has offered and is already bought and paid for. Trump is his own man.
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22044119 - 08/04/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: ohhh wow one of trumps companies filed chapter 11 bankrupcy omfg WOW
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: ohhh wow one of trumps companies filed chapter 11 bankrupcy omfg WOW
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Niffla



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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22044120 - 08/04/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.
One would have to try really, really fucking hard to actually do worse than the guy that's currently holding office.
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Niffla] 1
#22044133 - 08/04/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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Yep..mo matter what if a Republican wins the election the US and the world are totally fucked.
One would have to try really, really fucking hard to actually do worse than the guy that's currently holding office.
This is true though hitlery comes close to being worse, might even be worse.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22044159 - 08/04/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Zappa, you have not provided one instance in which trump "cheated millions" of people as you falsely claim. We already know some of his companies declared bankruptcy, big deal. You try to make him sound like a bad business man and broke. Then where did the $10B come from? He sure as hell didn't inherit that much. BTW, chapter 11 means they just restructure the debts, it does not mean all debts are cancelled. Your claim is rated false.
Piss off with your jealousy.
If hitlery wins its a disaster for the country. She has taken all the bribe money anyone has offered and is already bought and paid for. Trump is his own man.
Everybody who owned shares in the banks who he screwed
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22044163 - 08/04/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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twighead
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: jsncrs]
#22044165 - 08/04/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe he should just be a senator/rep - they have their hands more directly in the money than the President - and that's literally the only thing he has to his credence, he can make money by any means necessary. Which is one small slice of government... there's the whole commander in chief of the worlds most powerful military thing, foreign policy and what not - and who in their right mind would want that asshat in such a position
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: twighead]
#22044213 - 08/04/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The banks lent him the money fair and square dewd not sure how thats screwing them over. I mean anyone who looks into why those companies had to file bankrupsy will find out how full of shit zappa is.
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1991 — The first of Trump’s bankruptcies is the only one where Trump’s personal assets took a major hit. The bankruptcy was driven by the debt on Trump’s Taj Mahal, which was financed with junk bonds that carried a 14 percent interest rate.
Both the economy and the interest in Atlantic City gambling sank shortly after the Taj Mahal was completed, leaving Trump’s corporation with $3.4 billion in debts. Trump had too much personal interest in this venture, and ended up having to relinquish half of his ownership, sell his Trump Shuttle airplane and Trump Princess yacht, and effectively be put on a budget by his creditors. Trump learned from that episode, and took greater care to shield his personal wealth.
We hate to contemplate a future where President Trump is forced to sell Air force One to pay the country’s debts.
1992 — This bankruptcy was a byproduct of the same economic conditions as 1991, this time involving the Trump Plaza Hotel. The deal was similar in nature to 1991 with less personal exposure. Citibank ended up with 49 percent interest in the hotel. Trump ended up with no salary but remained as CEO and received a fairly lenient repayment plan.
2004 — In 2004, it was the Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filing for bankruptcy with $1.8 billion in debt. Trump’s share was reduced to 25 percent, leaving him without the controlling interest. In return, the Donald received lower interest rates and a loan of $500 million targeted for improvements.
2009 — The real estate crash took a large toll on Trump’s real estate holdings, and upon missing a large bond interest payment, Trump Entertainment Resorts was off to bankruptcy court. Trump and his board of directors fought over the restructuring terms, culminating with Trump’s resignation and a continuing 10 percent ownership interest.
Budding Trumpologists may like to add the Trump International Golf Club Puerto Rico to this list, but its filing for bankruptcy in July of 2015 does not count. The filing corporation uses Trump’s name through a licensing agreement, but Trump has no ownership interest in the company.
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Re: Who will win the 2016 US Presidential Election? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22044231 - 08/04/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vote limberbutt in 2016, bcuz meow is the time!!!
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