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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#22048245 - 08/05/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you have a tree next to your house? Is it always green? No
Yes, it's coniferous. Duh. 
Edit: Bitch! Psychonautica beat me to the punch.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: Psychonautica]
#22048272 - 08/05/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Florida is part of a planet whose stages change seasonally via natural transformations.
Simply because you are in a niche area, doesn't disregard the rest of the world.
Just as your ignorance does not disregard all the knowledge I possess.
Do you understand now?
Trees that behave differently, does not change the laws of seasons; your ignorance that is blind to the truth, does not have any affect on a truth's value of existence.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#22048317 - 08/05/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey man, we were just answering your question. Jeez! You asked if our tree was always green. We answered you.
Why did you ask the question if you're just going to insult us when we answer?
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: Diploid] 1
#22048325 - 08/05/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can bold shit too.
Your bold font doesn't make you any less delusional.
seek help
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#22048335 - 08/05/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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1 / 7 = 0.142857 (these 6 digits repeat infinitely)
0.142857 = 142857 * 0.000001
0.000001 = 1 / 999999 (denominator is 6 digits of just 9s, recall that the original decimal repeats every 6 digits)
999999 = 33 * 7 * 11 * 13 * 37 (7 is a factor of 999999, this should be no surprise)
999999 / 7 = 142857, so 1 / 7 = 142857 / 999999 (i.e. the original 6 repeating digits, divided by the number with 6 digits of 9s.
OK, so we have a repeating decimal that repeats every 6 digits, and our original denominator (7) turns out to be a factor of 999999, a number which is 6 digits of 9s.
Is there some way that this information can be generalized? If I have a fraction that produces the repeating decimal 0.75984327584275984350327098, can I say with confidence that my original fraction must be equal to 75984327584275984350327098 / 99999999999999999999999999? Is there some way to convincingly prove that this pattern holds true in general with logic, without testing every possible individual case?
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: Diploid]
#22048340 - 08/05/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Simply because you failed to understand the moral of the lesson.
When I asked you a question, you answered it with the need to be right, not to do what was right.
That is why you completely missed the point.
So yes, I am disappointed in you for treating answers as tools to +1 yourself, instead of ways to make sense of an elusive reality.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#22048382 - 08/05/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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how's the meth supply man?
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#22048385 - 08/05/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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When I asked you a question, you answered it with the need to be right
I'm pretty sure you can't read minds, so you don't know what "need" I was satisfying. You are just making that up. I though you were here to teach truth.
I'm the disappointed one.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: psi]
#22048408 - 08/05/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Finally something less wordy and more challenging.
First, you must respect the individual existence of the numbers within the decimals, along with the repeating factors therein - thus, 142857, in its original state is coexistent with 142857 x Infinity.
People say this world is infinite - wrong.
The world is finite, infinitely repeating itself therein.
So, let's do a thought experiment.
Let's say someone can teleport. Where they teleport from, is equal to where they teleport then, and so on.
Just as the entire state of existence is an illusion as we're entering new states / moments every millisecond, creating billions of fractals of ourselves with every fragment of our breath.
This is why we forget things. And why we have memories to remember what we forget.
We also remember the bad, more than we remember the good.
So let's say 142857 infinitely teleports to differentiating states, yet remains the same value throughout its transportation.
The subsequent states that follow the original state would not exist if the original state did not.
Thus saying that it is important to understand the significance of a number in its original state, as it is prior to its infinite reallocation.
Meaning that, to observe the infinite, is to destroy limit - which then, destroys reason, logic and purpose.
To observe the finite, within the loop that goes on and on, is to create reason, pattern, logic and purpose.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: Diploid]
#22048437 - 08/05/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, and you denying the truth, despite that everything you did is a psychical trait of ignoring the truth, does not mean that you have a right to be disappointed by eliminating the bridge between yourself and the reality before you.
I mean, sure. You can be that child that walks into a museum built by intelligent artists, with no intellectual capacity calling art crap, but honestly, you're just a spoiled brat that is lesser than a piece of crap, as at least crap contributes to the life sustainability of our entire planet.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#22048574 - 08/05/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dooood! You're not gonna believe this but I just proved with 100% certainty that 0 = 1. You were right! Everything we are taught in school about math is totally wrong! Here's the proof:
----- First, let's agree that x = y Given the above, it follows that x and y can be substituted for each other because they are equal, so:
x^2 = xy
Subtract y^2 from both sides yields: x^2 - y^2 = xy - y^2
Dividing both sides by (x-y), you get: x + y = y
Since we agreed above that x and y can substitute for each other, we see that: y + y = y
Simplify: 2y = y
Divide both sides by y and you get:
2 = 1
Subtract 1 from both sides and QED:
0 = 1 
Note to Nobel committee: PM me for the address where to ship my prize. Thanks.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: Diploid]
#22048623 - 08/05/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, 0 = 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 = 45°
0 is a black hole that contains all creation, conscientiously.
0 is the vaginal region of time and space, as 1 is the penal region of time and space.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? *DELETED* [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#22048643 - 08/05/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
HatingMeIsEasier said: 0 is the vaginal region of time and space, as 1 is the penal region of time and space.
And let's not forget that 720° = Vagina
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: Confucian]
#22048644 - 08/05/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That fact is never far from my mind.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: Confucian]
#22048674 - 08/05/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Divide 720 by 45, and see that I am not contradicting myself.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#22048699 - 08/05/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Infinite" is perhaps a loaded word, but it seems like it's pretty straightforward to demonstrate by long division that there is no way for the series of repeated digits to end. Once you hit the point where you get a remainder of 1, in a sense you're back exactly where you started. It's pretty clear I think that the same things are going to happen for the next 6 digits and so on. There is no escape.

Here's my proposal. If I have a repeating decimal of the form 0.D1D2... Dn where the pattern of digits that repeats (i.e. D1D2... Dn) is n digits long, then my decimal must be equal to that repeated pattern of digits divided by a number composed of n digits of 9s. Is it possible to find a counterexample where my claim doesn't hold true? This is an honest question for anyone, I believe it to be true but I don't know quite how I might go about constructing a proof.
Here's a related but simpler claim: If I have a repeating decimal of the form 0.00... 1 where there are n-1 digits of zeros followed by the digit "1" (i.e. a total of n digits), then my repeating decimal is equal to 1 divided by a number composed of n digits of 9s.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: psi]
#22048725 - 08/05/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The point is, life is a paradox.
If you focus on the illusion, you fuck up the experience.
So regardless, what you do, does not matter.
You will always meet an illusion.
The trick is to separate the realistic illusion, from the non-realistic illusion.
Just as you separate 142857, after the decimal, from 148257 as it repeats after the decimal.
Understand?
Just because the Universe can create infinities, doesn't mean it wants to. Just as it gave us one heart, not two - why? Well, it's pretty obvious what would happen if a body contained two very complicated organs.
You are trying to draw out infinites. I am trying to draw out limits.
That's the huge difference between you and I.
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: psi]
#22048928 - 08/05/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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it seems like it's pretty straightforward to demonstrate by long division that there is no way for the series of repeated digits to end
I didn't exactly follow your orginal question, but I think I get the gist of what you're asking. Read this thread in the Science & Technology forum where a similar question came up. Here's some of the chilli from that thread. See if it helps:
Quote:
Prove: .999 is equal to *EXACTLY* 1
First, two stipulations:
1) We can agree by elementary arithmetic that: 1/3 = .333
2) We can also agree that: .333 + .333 + .333 = .999
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Start by substituting 1/3 for .333 in #2 above yields:
1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = .999
Simplify the left gives:
1 = .999
We just showed that (1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3) is equal to .999 and we ALSO showed that 1 is equal equal to .999. Therefore it follows that:
.999 is equal to 1
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Re: Can we stop saying 3.141592653589 is more accurate than 3.14285714286? [Re: Diploid] 2
#22049028 - 08/05/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, the reason why .999 = 1, is because 1 is also a 9.
It goes like this:
1 = 9 2 = 8 3 = 6 4 = 5
Also, on an intellectual note, the speed of an electron moving across the ring of an atom is .999.
So the real question is, what is "1"?
Well, if 1+1 = 2 and .999 + .999 = 1998.
Then it only means that we have the system all wrong...
1 = 999 2 = 1998 3 = 2997 4 = 3996 5 = 4995 6 = 5994 7 = 6993 8 = 7992 9 = 8991
I can't believe I did not see this before!
This is magnificent!
These numbers, 18 27 36 45 54 63 72 81, are not by themselves.
They are broken off of "999", which is 9 x 9 x 9 = 729; 1/2 of 1458 -- both related to Speed Of Light: 299 792 458.
Don't you see?
.999 and 1 are coexistent!
The former represents -1, and the latter represents +1.
This system of numbers is absolutely genius!
Don't you see? This is how positive energy and negative energy co-exist - 999 = 1; 1998 = 2; 2997 = 3! So on!
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