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Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most
    #22039307 - 08/03/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I definitely think it must be male pattern baldness. I have early stages of this disease and I'm slowing it down with finasteride, but my observation is that any geeky, lame, fairly short/ugly dude with long thick hair can get beautiful girls to look at him, whereas even very handsome balding/shaven bald men aren't considered as attractive as average looking dudes who haven't started losing their hair. Seriously, I was considered completely gorgeous until I started going bald, now I don't ever get looked at by any girls in that way..


What do you think is the physical flaw that men have that turns women off the most?


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22039325 - 08/03/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

obesity would be my guess

as far as ones that arent preventable, and arent straight up 'deformities', id agree with baldness, unless you look particularly good bald.


Edited by Adolin (08/03/15 07:49 PM)


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Adolin]
    #22039335 - 08/03/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

thinking that everything leads to sex


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Konyap]
    #22039346 - 08/03/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Konyap said:
thinking that everything leads to sex




is that really a psysical imperfection, though?


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Konyap] * 12
    #22039350 - 08/03/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Adolin]
    #22039361 - 08/03/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok. Extreme morbid obesity or being a midgit or being hideously deformed would be worse. But those aren't common problems, male balding is extremely common.

Not to mention, it bothers me because I feel that balding doesn't reflect poor genes, you can be the epitome of both health and masculinity and yet be balding, yet women are more turned off by balding than by having greasy hair, pimples, being a little ugly in the face, etc. I feel that a geeky kinda short guy with no muscle is likely to get more looks from beautiful women, than is a tall handsome muscular guy who has only balding as his one physical imperfection.

It seems illogical..then again we are talking about what WOMEN want, which is very illogical


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 1
    #22039369 - 08/03/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

SPS - Small Penis Syndrome


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22039372 - 08/03/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Poor hygiene if you want to count that as a physical imperfection (if obesity is one I can't see how it wouldn't be though).


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: RobZombie68]
    #22039383 - 08/03/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Women would probably generally prefer a 5'9, skinny, pimple face dude with average features and a small penis, to a handsome 6'0 guy with a large penis but who either was balding or had a shaven head. Balding is worse than everything else COMBINED


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22039410 - 08/03/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i agree theres no reason to be put off by balding. its just the way it looks and some women dont like it


being short obviously also puts men in a shitty situation. alot of women will just flat out openly say they wont date men shorter than them


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Women would probably generally prefer a 5'9, skinny, pimple face dude with average features and a small penis, to a handsome 6'0 guy with a large penis but who either was balding or had a shaven head. Balding is worse than everything else COMBINED




thats not true at all. i think you're making shit up. redeeming features can easily make up for some baldness . enough redeeming features can make up for ANYTHING.

some guys just look better bald, too.


Edited by Adolin (08/03/15 08:02 PM)


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Adolin]
    #22039441 - 08/03/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No, I'm pretty sure women really are that shallow and care about hair that much. Hair is more superficial than facial features or height or muscle. Facial features indicate genetic integrity which is why retarded people usually are ugly, frankly. Height and muscle indicate masculinity. Hair..doesn't mean shit. It's not even important to health in any way and doesn't indicate better vs worse genetics


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 4
    #22039458 - 08/03/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

jesus. go to an MRA reddit or something. your obviously only looking for sympathy and approval of your ridiculous ideas, not an actual discussion


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22039462 - 08/03/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Physical?
Maybe being short.  Women frequently seem to reference men that are at least taller than they are as being desirable.

More broadly?
Lack of confidence.

Unfortunately, "physical imperfections" go hand in hand with lack of confidence.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Tantrika]
    #22039478 - 08/03/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Gresh, you really disagree, logically? I've never met a balding guy that women were attracted to even good looking ones but I've met many short, chubby dudes with good hair who women were attracted to


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 1
    #22039488 - 08/03/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah.i totally disagree with those sweeping generalizations. ive known plenty of bald men, patrially and fully, who regularly have girlfriends.

in fact, of the 6 'good friends' ive had in my life, 2 of them were bald and one is married now and the other has been with his girl for 4 years


your hair is not the only thing women care about. if you actually think that you're delusional, and probably have alot of other unattractive traits


Edited by Adolin (08/03/15 08:16 PM)


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 1
    #22039489 - 08/03/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Deal with the baldness. Finasteride has terrible side effects. It should have never been approved by the FDA.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22039519 - 08/03/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Generally speaking, women put less stock into physical features than men.  Especially as you get older, women look into status, power, and influence more than physical appearance.  You're balding?  Get a good job.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: badchad]
    #22039541 - 08/03/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: koods]
    #22039564 - 08/03/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Finasteride can have bad side effects and I did lose my libido for like the first year taking it..but my body eventually adjusted, I'm actually glad I started.

And yes I'm probably being overly negative but let's be honest, you have to be a rare breed of man to be attractive bald. Most men who are attractive, wouldn't be attractive if they were going bald. Baldness is worse than overweight or short because you have a high chance of being attractive despite being short or chubby, but you have a low chance of being attractive if you're balding. You pretty much have to be a black guy


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 2
    #22039580 - 08/03/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Gresh, you really disagree, logically? I've never met a balding guy that women were attracted to even good looking ones but I've met many short, chubby dudes with good hair who women were attracted to



Finasteride is going to turn you into woman physically. It seems you're already there in spirit.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #22039616 - 08/03/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I use to be terrified that finasteride would somehow make my body more feminine..but it didn't


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22039638 - 08/03/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

erectile disfunction would be my guess


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22039639 - 08/03/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I definitely think it must be male pattern baldness. I have early stages of this disease and I'm slowing it down with finasteride, but my observation is that any geeky, lame, fairly short/ugly dude with long thick hair can get beautiful girls to look at him, whereas even very handsome balding/shaven bald men aren't considered as attractive as average looking dudes who haven't started losing their hair. Seriously, I was considered completely gorgeous until I started going bald, now I don't ever get looked at by any girls in that way..


What do you think is the physical flaw that men have that turns women off the most?



If you have any semblance of a personality its really not that big of a deal dude

And I'd say being overweight is probably the first imperfection


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22039658 - 08/03/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes..it is. If you got game but aren't good looking, women will fuck you but fake their orgasms. If you got game and looks, they will fuck you and have real orgasms.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22039675 - 08/03/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

overweight, balding, short, no bass in voice, small penis


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 5
    #22039685 - 08/03/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes..it is. If you got game but aren't good looking, women will fuck you but fake their orgasms. If you got game and looks, they will fuck you and have real orgasms.



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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 1
    #22039787 - 08/03/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Having a shaved head is absolutely totally fine. Do what your mom told you. Stand up straight. make eye contact. Smile . Be clean and dress well.
Drop that drug your on and start taking one that will silence the demons that are trying to pussify you.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 3
    #22040416 - 08/04/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: twighead]
    #22040435 - 08/04/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you all seem to be taking a very male approach. Unlike males where say once ugly feature in a woman can be a turnoff, it doesnt generally work that way for women. Many fat ugly men can get women easy. They just have loads of confidence and make them laugh.

But then again its women. Doesn't matter what youll do they will just do they exact opposite of what you expect


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22040444 - 08/04/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What do you think is the physical flaw that men have that turns women off the most?



Acting in any way, shape, or form like JFT.  Also having a kangaroo pouch is most likely a deal breaker as well.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 1
    #22040461 - 08/04/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes..it is. If you got game but aren't good looking, women will fuck you but fake their orgasms. If you got game and looks, they will fuck you and have real orgasms.




You morons with your game... what is game anyway? I've never had game in my life yet women give me attention, and I am one ugly son of a bitch.

Maybe all this pick up artist shit is even uglier than my face is.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22040472 - 08/04/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think it's something else besides the balding, no offence dude. Maybe you're just thinking about it too much and assuming what people are thinking about you when really they don't give a shit about you. I walk by a lot of hot girls and don't look at them...hell, I'd look at them more if they were bald. Some girls that totally shave their heads are hot as fuck. And that's even stranger than a dude being bald so I disagree.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22040486 - 08/04/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Game is the ability to read a person and tell them what they need to hear to get them into bed, without being obvious about your true intentions. Game has nothing to do with looks. Women gave you attention because you played the game, whether you thought you had or not.

At some level, everyone has and plays the game, or at least, those who get laid do. It's very rare brutally honest people get laid (minus certain circumstances such as paying for it and just sheer dumb luck). Whether most realize or even want to admit what they're doing or not, it's a basic biological drive to mate and we do what is nessecary to do so.

This may manifest by leaving out details, lying about them or by presenting them in a way that seems favorable, but one way or another, most people are operating on the directive to do what is nessecary to mate.

Why anyone feels like this is a bragging right, is a mystery to me. Practically everyone has it, and practically everyone uses it. You'll still get plenty of people acting like they are pussy geniuses and as if it is some skill that few posses. The only thing that sets them apart is that they've realized what it is they're doing.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22040549 - 08/04/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Game is the ability to read a person and tell them what they need to hear to get them into bed, without being obvious about your true intentions. Game has nothing to do with looks. Women gave you attention because you played the game, whether you thought you had or not.

At some level, everyone has and plays the game, or at least, those who get laid do. It's very rare brutally honest people get laid (minus certain circumstances such as paying for it and just sheer dumb luck). Whether most realize or even want to admit what they're doing or not, it's a basic biological drive to mate and we do what is nessecary to do so.

This may manifest by leaving out details, lying about them or by presenting them in a way that seems favorable, but one way or another, most people are operating on the directive to do what is nessecary to mate.


Why anyone feels like this is a bragging right, is a mystery to me. Practically everyone has it, and practically everyone uses it. You'll still get plenty of people acting like they are pussy geniuses and as if it is some skill that few posses. The only thing that sets them apart is that they've realized what it is they're doing.




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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22040601 - 08/04/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Game is the ability to read a person and tell them what they need to hear to get them into bed, without being obvious about your true intentions. Game has nothing to do with looks. Women gave you attention because you played the game, whether you thought you had or not.

At some level, everyone has and plays the game, or at least, those who get laid do. It's very rare brutally honest people get laid (minus certain circumstances such as paying for it and just sheer dumb luck). Whether most realize or even want to admit what they're doing or not, it's a basic biological drive to mate and we do what is nessecary to do so.

This may manifest by leaving out details, lying about them or by presenting them in a way that seems favorable, but one way or another, most people are operating on the directive to do what is nessecary to mate.

Why anyone feels like this is a bragging right, is a mystery to me. Practically everyone has it, and practically everyone uses it. You'll still get plenty of people acting like they are pussy geniuses and as if it is some skill that few posses. The only thing that sets them apart is that they've realized what it is they're doing.



Back when i was in highschool a few years ago, there were these 2 guys who were the biggest fucking assholes I've ever known. They would do what you're talking about TO THE FUCKING EXTREME. They fucked a lot of girls, but god damnit those guys were whores.

They'd spend an hour telling some random girl that they like them, invite them over and get them drunk/high and then have sex whith them. One of the guys had a girlfriend and a kid. Also heard them bragging that they pretty much raped a girl.

They were both into extreme mindgames, and would pick on insecurities all the time for girls to sleep with them. I know they were std ridden aswell.

Anyways, for the biggest turnoff for women, I'd say is not being confident. Usually ties to men worrying about a physical trait they have that doesn't matter.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22040614 - 08/04/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Game is the ability to read a person and tell them what they need to hear to get them into bed, without being obvious about your true intentions. Game has nothing to do with looks. Women gave you attention because you played the game, whether you thought you had or not.

At some level, everyone has and plays the game, or at least, those who get laid do. It's very rare brutally honest people get laid (minus certain circumstances such as paying for it and just sheer dumb luck). Whether most realize or even want to admit what they're doing or not, it's a basic biological drive to mate and we do what is nessecary to do so.

This may manifest by leaving out details, lying about them or by presenting them in a way that seems favorable, but one way or another, most people are operating on the directive to do what is nessecary to mate.


Why anyone feels like this is a bragging right, is a mystery to me. Practically everyone has it, and practically everyone uses it. You'll still get plenty of people acting like they are pussy geniuses and as if it is some skill that few posses. The only thing that sets them apart is that they've realized what it is they're doing.




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You're going to tell me that you've been brutally honest and told a woman every last negative thought you had about her (no matter how fleeting) and ended up dating her for any extended period of time? That would be absurd. Almost no one does that. They don't even do that with people they aren't trying to fuck. People hide shit or push certain things into the dark recesses of their minds in the name of keeping a civil relationship going all the damn time.

People hide, twist or lie about things on a daily basis. They do so to maintain relationships whether they are just friendly or intimate. Pretty much anyone who just blatantly states their mind all the time, without concealing, twisting or lying about it, are almost universally labeled as assholes and few people want anything to do with them. If you've so much as thought about how to phrase a truth you couldn't just keep locked within to not come across as being an asshole, then what I said is not untrue.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22040617 - 08/04/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22040621 - 08/04/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Game is the ability to read a person and tell them what they need to hear to get them into bed, without being obvious about your true intentions. Game has nothing to do with looks. Women gave you attention because you played the game, whether you thought you had or not.

At some level, everyone has and plays the game, or at least, those who get laid do. It's very rare brutally honest people get laid (minus certain circumstances such as paying for it and just sheer dumb luck). Whether most realize or even want to admit what they're doing or not, it's a basic biological drive to mate and we do what is nessecary to do so.

This may manifest by leaving out details, lying about them or by presenting them in a way that seems favorable, but one way or another, most people are operating on the directive to do what is nessecary to mate.


Why anyone feels like this is a bragging right, is a mystery to me. Practically everyone has it, and practically everyone uses it. You'll still get plenty of people acting like they are pussy geniuses and as if it is some skill that few posses. The only thing that sets them apart is that they've realized what it is they're doing.




:bathtub40lol:



You're going to tell me that you've been brutally honest and told a woman every last negative thought you had about her (no matter how fleeting) and ended up dating her for any extended period of time? That would be absurd. Almost no one does that. They don't even do that with people they aren't trying to fuck. People hide shit or push certain things into the dark recesses of their minds in the name of keeping a civil relationship going all the damn time.

People hide, twist or lie about things on a daily basis. They do so to maintain relationships whether they are just friendly or intimate. Pretty much anyone who just blatantly states their mind all the time, without concealing, twisting or lying about it, are almost universally labeled as assholes and few people want anything to do with them. If you've so much as thought about how to phrase a truth you couldn't just keep locked within to not come across as being an asshole, then what I said is not untrue.




Maybe that is how it works for you, but here we call that being a snake, and we call honest people... honest. It's a virtue, you should try it.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22040625 - 08/04/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So you're just honest 100% of the time with whatever runs through your head? You've always flat out told a girl her new hairstyle makes her look ugly, that the dress she's wearing makes her look fat, that you can't stand some trait about her. You have literally told them all of every critique you've made of them. You've never omitted the truth or bent it because telling the truth wasn't worth the hurt that it would cause them or that the superficial nature of it wasn't worth the drama it would've caused by sharing it..

Right. 100% believe that.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22040634 - 08/04/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The great thing is that women aren't as shallow and superficial as males, so it's not a deal breaker if you're a ginger for them. As long as your well groomed, neat and nice, it ticks that box for most girls. It's about personality, confidence and how you make them feel


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22040792 - 08/04/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So you're just honest 100% of the time with whatever runs through your head? You've always flat out told a girl her new hairstyle makes her look ugly, that the dress she's wearing makes her look fat, that you can't stand some trait about her. You have literally told them all of every critique you've made of them. You've never omitted the truth or bent it because telling the truth wasn't worth the hurt that it would cause them or that the superficial nature of it wasn't worth the drama it would've caused by sharing it..

Right. 100% believe that.




Well.. of course I do. If a new hairstyle looks ugly, and they ask me what I think, then I won't lie. Would you?
I've never had women react badly to honesty, either. Maybe it's a cultural thing? I know I'm in the majority here when it comes to honesty.
Women generally don't act like they're in an American sitcom over here.

I told my then-girlfriend once that her pants did make her ass look fat. She wiggled her ass and laughed. True story.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22040933 - 08/04/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey man, I'm balding at my young age, and I don't got problems pulling bitches. I got a haircut that made me look less shitty with my hair pattern and life is good.

Being unable to get your dick hard is way worse.

Bang a hooker and get some confidence back OP!:psychsplit:


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: lood_dood]
    #22040959 - 08/04/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Baldness. I doubt it is something the turns most women out. Otherwise 50% of the men out there would be unfuckable.

It's more personality things. Lack of confidence being #1 by far on the list.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: 1234go]
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    #22041008 - 08/04/15 07:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Daaamnn, wud up d00d...


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: 1234go] * 4
    #22041021 - 08/04/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Op is trippin. If you ever go on any of those hairloss forums they they have the exact same outlook as he does. "Women all of a sudden think I'm ugly and pathetic."

Well maybe you should fucking stop acting pathetic? shit is ridiculous


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 1
    #22041075 - 08/04/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Word. He's probably currently balding himself, and discretely seeking validation from women.





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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: 1234go]
    #22041078 - 08/04/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Seeking validation from women on the boomery was his first mistake :lolsy:


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    #22041086 - 08/04/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It seems to be an extremely popular mistake made here at the shroomery, no doubt.


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    #22041090 - 08/04/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 2
    #22041108 - 08/04/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Op is trippin. If you ever go on any of those hairloss forums they they have the exact same outlook as he does. "Women all of a sudden think I'm ugly and pathetic."

Well maybe you should fucking stop acting pathetic? shit is ridiculous




Yeah certain women are just not really going to be into certain looks (as with men,) but the unattractiveness of "poor me, nobody likes me" is pretty universal.


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    #22041279 - 08/04/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

OP should bang a hooker to get his mojo back.


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    #22041426 - 08/04/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think, something that hasn't been mentioned, has more of a bad effect than baldness or short man syndrome or little flacid dicks. That would be bad teeth. Meth mouth or anything close is a complete turn off to anyone. Also, the bad breath that goes along with it. Take care of those teeth young'ns...they will make or break deals. :brushteeth:  :smileyfrog:


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 2
    #22041441 - 08/04/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Is this supposed to be a troll thread or something? Most men have male pattern baldness. It's not that big of a deal. You just have to find a nice woman that you hit it off with, and she won't care that you're bald. I think self-pity is one of the ugliest traits to women. Being whiny and emotional is also really bad, except in rare cases when you have something really traumatic going on in your life. I think one of the biggest misconceptions is that women like it when you spill your guts to them, but in reality, it just makes you look like a pussy.


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    #22041848 - 08/04/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Word. He's probably currently balding himself, and discretely seeking validation from women.









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I mean yeah OP has already mentioned he's currently balding


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    #22041973 - 08/04/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I definitely think it must be male pattern baldness. I have early stages of this disease and I'm slowing it down with finasteride, but my observation is that any geeky, lame, fairly short/ugly dude with long thick hair can get beautiful girls to look at him, whereas even very handsome balding/shaven bald men aren't considered as attractive as average looking dudes who haven't started losing their hair. Seriously, I was considered completely gorgeous until I started going bald, now I don't ever get looked at by any girls in that way..


What do you think is the physical flaw that men have that turns women off the most?



I know you said physical flaw, but lack of confidence is a huge turn off for women.  And a lack of confidence reveals itself physically, your posture and facial expressions, how you carry yourself.


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    #22042008 - 08/04/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you are balding, you can shave your head.  It will look better.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22042177 - 08/04/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I know a lot of women who think baldness is sexy, it can be seen as a sign of maturity. And as others have said, nothing is sexier than confidence.

Anyway, if it helps, I take finasteride as an anti-androgen for my MtF HRT regimen, it shrinks my prostate and kills my boners. This is all very well and good for me, but if you are taking it to be seen as more sexually desirable as a male, you may want to think twice.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22042211 - 08/04/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you mean balding in a way where you have a toilet rim hairstyle, yes that shit is pretty terrible, but if you shave it you're instantly attractive again. Just do it.

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    #22042223 - 08/04/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Honestly it seems like physical "perfection" is a lot less important for men in finding a mate. Men are not held to nearly as high physical standards as women and are judged more by personal success and confidence.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22042243 - 08/04/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dude, this can't be that bad. Get over it. I mean, yeah it is fucked up your hair is bailing. But shaving is fine. I know plenty of guys that shave their scalp and get a lot of female attention. Chicks dig confidence (and prosperity), not much else.


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    #22042294 - 08/04/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It was really hot out the last couple days.I thought of this question and decided to shave my head before going to an outdoor concert. I was just standing there watching and had three different girls come up wanting my number. If my uncle fester ass is drowning in pussy the shaved head cant mean much. The thing is I wasn't focused on preconceived inadequacies. I just felt high and happy and was focused on loving all creation. Doing that created an aura of power and confidence. If your depressed landing a woman shouldn't be top priority.


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    #22042329 - 08/04/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My booty call back in the day was a balding man who shaved his head. The guy I CHOSE to be FWB with. If that doesn't say that balding doesn't matter than I dunno what does. He made me laugh a lot, we had a ton in common, he worked out and had a nice body, and had really high confidence.


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So what are the odds of you choosing to FWB with me????


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Don't you live in another country or something?


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: OsculateOfDemise]
    #22042748 - 08/04/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah but don't worry about that

And your supposed to say ' slim and none '


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22042780 - 08/04/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Boomer The Great] * 1
    #22043040 - 08/04/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think women should go look at their own selves before judging me

I don't wanna fuck you, ho


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22043096 - 08/04/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I feel like height automatically disqualifies me from dating a vast amount of girls. The first thing a girl notices is your height and if you are shorter then her that automatically disqualifies you and that's been the case a lot for me. I'm 5'8-5'9 so I'm pretty short and a lot of the hot blondes I usually got after are unfortunately 5'6-5'11 and it's hard to find a hot blonde under that height so I'm not overly popular with the ladies.

Also a lot of girls prefer guys who are at least 6' regardless of their own height. Manlets are seen as less desirable by the cunty and vain women who make a big deal out of height. I love how women are able to just cross off and disqualify potential male mates based off height but if a guy doesn't want to date a girl because she is too fat or doesn't have enough ass or tits that makes us pigs and vain people who only care about outward appearances. Let's not even bring up the fact that a lot of women now seek out men almost exclusively for their wealth and status.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22043117 - 08/04/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

All that the looks do is open the door. Once you walk in the room it's up to your confidence an personality to go to the next room.

And with confidence you can just walk straight into the room, if that makes sense.

Learn to catch their eyes and get their attention. Be different and standout. That will get their attention and then you woo them from there. You don't have to be tall to get their attention, even if it does help initially


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22043127 - 08/04/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Im 5'9' and i get attention from ladies. :shrug:


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Achillita]
    #22043174 - 08/04/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Question is do you get the attention from the 5'11 model???

I don't have problems with girls just the tall ones and the ones that say "if your not 6ft or up then no thanks"


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22043207 - 08/04/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You sound like you have some issues with women. They like tall guys, so what? It's okay to have preferences.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22043211 - 08/04/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I mean there is some girls who just won't give you the time of day, ignore those. You can't win them all. But the key is to just try. You'd be surprised


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Capers]
    #22043247 - 08/04/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You sound like you have some issues with women. They like tall guys, so what? It's okay to have preferences.



That's not what I said. I just said I have problems with tall girls in regards to getting them and that's it.  Never did I say I have a problem with them liking taller men and not liking me. Like I said I'll just have to settle for the girls under 5'7 or so.

I had a huge crush on this girl in high school who was 5'7 and I was 5'8 at the time and she made a big deal out of height and made it clear many times she doesn't date guys under 6' which kind of pissed me off at the time and basically had me depressed and made me feel self conscious about my height for a long time but I did get over it when I realized there are a bunch of guys shorter then me and realized it was her preference and she had no obligation to give me a chance so I just moved on and settled for the shorter girls and the ones who don't care about height like she does and I ended up being alright. I do admit their is a subconscious animosity in me towards women who make a big deal out of height but for the most part I don't care as long as my preferences to like a women based on the size of her breasts, face, or body type are respected as well.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22043328 - 08/04/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Every new girl is a new ball game. What's happened with other girls has no relevance to the new chick. Just start again each time and see how things go. Relentless. That's what it's about. And the more you practice and more experience you get, te better you'll be

The hottest chick I've ever hooked up with more picked me up and just fell into my lap. This was the type of girl that I would have never approached because she was way out if my league, or so I thought. All I did was jut I with it and yeah. After a while it clicks in your mind and you start to get it more. They're just normal people like anyone else


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Soulidarity]
    #22043612 - 08/04/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I believe 3 women have finally replied to this thread.  Not one of them has answered the question posed.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043653 - 08/04/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Do they ever give straight answers? We're supposed to e mind readers zap. I'm sure you know that with a wife and a daughter


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Soulidarity]
    #22043680 - 08/04/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Women cannot be revealed by their words, their words are fucking useless. Their actions are the only thing you can use to determine anything.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22043708 - 08/04/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bad body odor and bad teeth.

Thar being said, I have found myself being attracted to a smelly guy, or guys who didn't have the greatest teeth. I have also been attracted to bald guys, amputees, fat guys, short guys, tall guys, guys in wheelchairs, hairy guys, and hairless guys.

It's about who you are and how you carry yourself more than anything.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #22043713 - 08/04/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

..most women care a lot more about physical traits, than you apparently do, savage


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22043718 - 08/04/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty sure the same is true of men as well :shrug:

Honestly, speaking as a woman, nothing turns me off from a man more than an inferiority complex. I can't think of any specific physical traits that are unattractive aside from bad personal hygiene or the effects of a shitty diet and I don't get the impression that's the sort of thing OP meant.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #22043719 - 08/04/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I guess there are no deal killers for you, just things that need to be overcome.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #22043721 - 08/04/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bad body odor and bad teeth.

Thar being said, I have found myself being attracted to a smelly guy, or guys who didn't have the greatest teeth. I have also been attracted to bald guys, amputees, fat guys, short guys, tall guys, guys in wheelchairs, hairy guys, and hairless guys.

It's about who you are and how you carry yourself more than anything.




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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22043732 - 08/04/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Pretty sure the same is true of men as well :shrug:

Honestly, speaking as a woman, nothing turns me off from a man more than an inferiority complex. I can't think of any specific physical traits that are unattractive aside from bad personal hygiene or the effects of a shitty diet and I don't get the impression that's the sort of thing OP meant.




I don't think so either


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22043859 - 08/04/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I meant physical traits outside of your control, like, common physical traits. Balding, shortness, being naturally pudgy, having a disproportionately large head etc


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22044542 - 08/04/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

From what I've seen it's not important unless maybe a one night stand, and even then, its alot about confidence.

If you are a downer or just an asshole to be with, it's probably why you aren't in a relationship. If you just act like everything sucks or no one likes you because of a certain trait, then thats usually the big problem, not the actual trait.

If someone looks for something COMPLETELY based on appearance, then they probably aren't worth it.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22044730 - 08/04/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So I guess there are no deal killers for you, just things that need to be overcome.




Haha I guess that's one way of putting it.


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #22045228 - 08/04/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Having one testicle dries them out like desiccant


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: Soulidarity]
    #22045635 - 08/05/15 02:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What about three testicles?


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Re: Male physical imperfection that turns women off the most [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22045641 - 08/05/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've had two sex offers from sluts since I lost my teeth. Some women may like that. It's rugged or whatever. Body oder is a big deal, but that is fixable. An extra ball may be kind of hot. It's not like the other two aren't there. It's a bonus or something


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