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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #22080871 - 08/12/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think it is a good idea. So many people have a spouse that just makes a little bit more than what child care costs. So they end up making an extra 500$ a month to not see their kid. At least with a subsidized program, that money can be used to have a better house, more options, more time with the kids.

DOWN WITH HARPER with him in charge we are just USA lite, just 1 calorie




Can see how that would benefit in terms of family togetherness, that is certainly a good factor to account for.

Suppose my view is skewed by my own upbringing -- was raised by a single mother who worked minimum wage with a full daily commute.
Mom had a family friend babysitting until I was old enough to stay home alone after school.

Do not think that child care positions would have really helped much or been a viable option; but the Liberal offering is not much either.
Kind of similar to your situation, I suppose -- prohibitive costs meant paid child care was not an option.
Maybe for a kick, I should get in touch with Mom and ask her what she would have preferred when raising me.  The Liberal option seems more likely to me though, since we were below the poverty line and in need of extra money (ie: tax-free supplement) rather than a different place for child care.


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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #22080879 - 08/12/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

vote for me



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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: zZZz]
    #22080885 - 08/12/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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zZZz said:
vote for me






Turn your banner into a half Canada flag half Québec flag and you'll have my vote. :lol:


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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: zZZz]
    #22080896 - 08/12/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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zZZz said:
vote for me






Lool.

I will put America to sleep!!!


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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
    #22087526 - 08/13/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just got hit up by the Liberal mailing list regarding some additions to their platform.

Looks like while the NDP is looking to make blanket affordable child-care for anyone who can afford to put their child into a facility, the Liberals seem to be making more targeted changes.

In this particular instance, talking about pouring billions into education for First Nations.

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Today I committed to a renewed partnership with First Nations, so we can work together to close the persistent and unacceptable gap in education and economic opportunity for kids in First Nations communities. Because doing both is vital to our long-term economic growth.

There is no disagreement that First Nations students are falling further behind in core subjects like reading, writing, and numeracy.

Yep the Harper government doesn’t think this is a priority. They have slashed federal resources for First Nations, and over $1 billion in government funding – intended for Indigenous Peoples – has been allowed to lapse since 2009. You and I know who pays the price: First Nations kids and their communities.

We can’t delay action on this any longer. That’s why today I committed to closing the gap in funding for First Nations education, to building more schools, and supporting the enhancement, promotion and preservation of Indigenous languages and cultures, in partnership with First Nations communities. You can get all the details of our plan on RealChange.ca.

We believe in First Nations control of First Nations education, with the federal government working nation-to-nation as a partner to ensure the goals set by First Nations are achieved.

Canada can only succeed when we all succeed. That’s why our plan will deliver economic growth that works for everyone, including First Nations students and communities.




Article link took me to:
http://www.liberal.ca/realchange/?cat=renewed-partnerships-for-a-stronger-canada

Wonder how hard parties will be competing for First Nations votes this year.

In other news, found a page relating more to the Liberal's child-care plans:
http://www.liberal.ca/realchange/canada-child-benefit-plan/

The discrepancy appears rather small between the current Conservative funds and the added Liberal funs when comparing small families -- a single mother with a single kid only gets roughly 100 per month more than before.
In contrast, a 2 parent family with 4 kids stands to get 650 more per month than at present.

Aside from that, their platform page is still a pain to navigate with a variety of buttons:
http://www.liberal.ca/realchange/

Cut taxes for the middle-class; raise taxes on the top 1% of income earners; keep the business tax the same as Harper lowered it to, in order to prevent loss of existing jobs from the economy.

My area's seat is currently filled by a Conservative MP, and the Liberal candidate is looking to have the best chance of outing him at present -- might as well keep up to date on where my vote is likely going. :lol:


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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Tantrika]
    #22087554 - 08/13/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm just saying but if the education system is lacking on the reserves it's because of population density and commuting for non-native teachers.

Reserves are great but to be honest it kind of shits up the whole deal for everyone else. It's a burden. Native privilige is bullshit.


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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22087657 - 08/13/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The Natives need to start living in reality and start mingling as if they were regular people. This "were special because we were here first" shit is getting annoying. They live in the top 3 nation of the planet, they choose to be miserable on reserves away from the rest of the population trying to manage themselves as a whole while they are scattered everywhere in the country...

Either A: Fuck the reserves, get a job like everyone else and pay your taxes like everyone else

Or B: Push for a province that would encompasses all the reserves and have a centralized government in one of them. Sure the province would be scattered everywhere in the country, but at least they'll have they're own provincial laws to make up as they wish


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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
    #22087659 - 08/13/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22087716 - 08/13/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
I'm just saying but if the education system is lacking on the reserves it's because of population density and commuting for non-native teachers.

Reserves are great but to be honest it kind of shits up the whole deal for everyone else. It's a burden. Native privilige is bullshit.




With regards to this, one of the Liberal sub-pages might provide insight:

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We will also invest $500 million over the next three years for immediate First Nations education infrastructure. This funding is incremental to existing education infrastructure commitments already made to First Nations.

Unlike Stephen Harper, we will never act unilaterally on First Nations education. We believe in First Nations control of First Nations education, with the federal government working nation-to-nation as a partner to ensure the goals set by First Nations are achieved. We will also support First Nation-led initiatives with respect to jurisdiction over education.




Bolded/underlined seems to summarize the view that First Nations communities are being viewed as a separate (presumably lesser-developed?) nation that is set to receive assistance from Canada's government.

As for the general quality of life on reserves -- everyone I have known who grew up on a reserve talks about finding them to be deplorable and unappealing. :shrug:

Given the dissatisfaction that First Nations individuals have expressed with regards to the Conservatives though, can see why the Liberals might want to make early moves to capture votes that may presently be marked by little more than a "anything but Conservative" mentality.

Apparently, Trudeau announced the plans in Saskatoon.
http://globalnews.ca/news/2164143/trudeau-pledges-millions-for-first-nations-education-during-saskatoon-stop/

Location is relevant. 
In terms of crime statistics, Saskatchewan is apparently up there with Manitoba for crime severity. Among the highest crime rates in Canada, and in a number of instances the highest south of the Territories.
According to Wikipedia's gang demographic's page, Saskatchewan has a whopping 96% of it's gangs made up by First Nations individuals.

Perhaps more adequate education programs will facilitate more mobility in terms of finding gainful employment rather than perpetuating the cycle of poverty, no real clue though.

With NDP support showing so strongly from middle-class people, the Liberals targeting their early platform announcements at the lower-class and groups that deal with poverty seems to be quite planned though.


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