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Patlal
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The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday.
#22038792 - 08/03/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Length of the campaign: 78 days (Longest in recent history if not ever)
Parties:
- Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) - Liberal Party of Canada (LPC) - New Democratic Party (NDP) - Bloc Québecois (BC, The Block) - Green Party
Political stance:
CPC: The right wing LPC: Center (I guess, unsure at this point) NDP: Left Wing, most socialist Bloc: Left wing, mostly to promote Quebec and steal seats form the major parties Green: I'm gonna assume left, then again, other than the environment, I know nothing about them
Leaders:
Conservatives: Stephen Harper (Incumbent Prime Minister of Canada)

Liberals: Justin Trudeau

NDP: Thomas Mulcair (Leader of the Opposition)

Bloc: Gilles Duceppe

Green: Elizabeth May

Current issues:
- Health Care - Economy - Marijuana - National daycare - International politics - The normal stuff really.
Recent Polls:
- The Liberals were surging a year ago due to Trudeau's popularity, now it has fallen down to third place due to his lack of substance and experience
- The NDP have been on a constant rise, threatning to take the government away from the government
- The conservative are on a constant decline but recently surged back to #1 with recent family policies and give aways.
My predictions:
- Guaranteed minority government. The vote is split in three and every voter is very loyal to their own parties.
- Either the Conservtives keep government with a mnority or the NDP takes it frst the fist time in history (again minority)
My personal choice::
- For a Canadian, I am a solid right winger. So the Conservatives are always my first choice unless they have a shitty leader. This year however, I am willing to let my personal conviction go for the good of the country. I understand that Canada has been built with a balance of right wing and left wing governments and I am fully aware that we are straying a bit too far right. Therefore, I am willing to drop my beliefs and vote NDP. That is, only if they give me one reason to vote for them. One minor reason. Anything I can possibly relate too. If they can do that, I'm voting for them. Otherwise, if they really can't build the tiniest bridge between their socialist ideal and my conservative beliefs, I will be forced to follow my heart and vote Conservative again. Here's a mental image as to where I stand, I am letting myself be seduced by the NDP and I am willing to walk the 100 feet gap on a tight rope made of dental floss.
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
#22038802 - 08/03/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Harper looks fucked
Trudeau looks too nationalist french to be trusted
Muclair looks like a nice guy, I think you should vote for him
Last guy is way too nationalist french to be trusted
And face it - aint no one voting for that bitch
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Patlal
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: twighead]
#22038957 - 08/03/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am willing to vote for him, but he's gonna have to give me something
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal] 1
#22038995 - 08/03/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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all horrible candidates.
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
#22039016 - 08/03/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Didn't Harper call for early elections because he is pretty sure he will win?
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal] 1
#22039044 - 08/03/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Harper is a tyrant. I get angry just looking at the picture of him that you posted.
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: pslyke]
#22039072 - 08/03/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Patlol
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Patlal
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22039400 - 08/03/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Didn't Harper call for early elections because he is pretty sure he will win?
He declared the elections early because his party is the only one who can finance a 78 day campaign
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
#22039407 - 08/03/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Anahata]
#22039452 - 08/03/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Canada has a Prime minister...
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
#22039634 - 08/03/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Patlal said: My personal choice::
- For a Canadian, I am a solid right winger.
Can you explain what that means? Because in America a right winger is:
- a Young Earth Creationist, first and foremost
- wants zygotes (fertilized eggs) to have rights and parents not be allowed to terminate their pregnancy in early stages if they already have 15 kids, are super poor, are teenagers, or are not ready for kids
- wants taxes really low for millionaires and billionares and to make it extremely difficult or impossible for poor people (leeches) to get help with housing, food, and income
- wants health care to be a for profit industry run by profit seekers that deny children with cancer health care
- want to take away disability, unemployment, and social security insurance (things that the sick, jobless, and elderly rely on to not be homeless)
- thinks gay people are disgusting freaks that are going to hell
- want mentally ill pyschopaths to be able to buy guns
- think global warming is a hoax
- think higher education is a liberal indoctrination system
- think CERN is the modern day equivalent of the Tower of Babel from the bible
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Confucian]
#22039793 - 08/03/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Confucian said:
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Patlal said: My personal choice::
- For a Canadian, I am a solid right winger.
Can you explain what that means? Because in America a right winger is:
- a Young Earth Creationist, first and foremost
- wants zygotes (fertilized eggs) to have rights and parents not be allowed to terminate their pregnancy in early stages if they already have 15 kids, are super poor, are teenagers, or are not ready for kids
- wants taxes really low for millionaires and billionares and to make it extremely difficult or impossible for poor people (leeches) to get help with housing, food, and income
- wants health care to be a for profit industry run by profit seekers that deny children with cancer health care
- want to take away disability, unemployment, and social security insurance (things that the sick, jobless, and elderly rely on to not be homeless)
- thinks gay people are disgusting freaks that are going to hell
- want mentally ill pyschopaths to be able to buy guns
- think global warming is a hoax
- think higher education is a liberal indoctrination system
- think CERN is the modern day equivalent of the Tower of Babel from the bible
Well, the Conservatives in their term in office have made efforts to muzzle scientists on matters of climate change.
Have rolled back Canada's medical marijuana system so that they could re-write it into a system that allows big pharma to profit off it while banning patients from the right to produce their own medicine -- making it very difficult for chronically ill patients to access their prescriptions, as cannabis was given special provisions to ensure that the government would not have to pay coverage on it as they do with other prescriptions.
They are also big into oil money in Alberta and anything that benefits the upper class.
So perhaps not quite as far right, just far enough to line their pockets mostly.
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Patlal
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Confucian] 2
#22040939 - 08/04/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Confucian said:
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Patlal said: My personal choice::
- For a Canadian, I am a solid right winger.
Can you explain what that means?
I understand the confusion. But let me explain what a right winger in Canada is:
- Low corporate taxes because we understand that we have to compete globally and we want to attract businesses here in order to get jobs. - Low-ish income taxes. We want to keep our money in our pockets, but we understand that the public services have to paid for and you are not taking anything away from the healthcare system.
- We understand that the environment is somewhat in danger but we also understand that Canada is 99.9999% wilderness and that until China and the US does something about it, it is a waste of effort given our small global impact.
- Oil. Dig that shit up. Build pipelines, Ship it out. Profit.
- We want to develop the North because we are fully aware of the massive amounts of resources to be exploited up there. Thing is, we need people living there if we want to extract it, therefore we have to build the infrastructure needed to support the potential population and corporations
- Fuck religion. Nobody gives a shit. You will never see a Canadian politician talk about god or religion unless if it is to defend that all of them are equally right. But none of them will use religion to attract voters, ever, no matter the party
- International free trade agreements. Lots and lots of them. We are an exporting country, we need buyers. We need free trade. It has to be fair on the import side of it because we do import a little too, but when it comes to our products going to the other country, it has to be crystal clear.
- Families. Personally I don't give a shit, but a right winger is all for child care and monthly allowances to help families that are struggling to make ends meet. It sound like a socialist value, but the cheque we send out to them, once they cash it, they can spend the money on whatever they choose. We do not dictate where they spend the money (not every parent is a degenerate gambler that will waste that cash BTW)
- Infrastructure. If we are gonna invest billions of public funds into a government program, we want to see the investment and be able to touch it and physically use it every day. So it's gonna be infrastructure
- Entrepreneurship all the way. Tax deductions, grants, eliminating red tape, speeding up the process at which and entrepreneur will be successful. Anything that will help a future job creator succeed is right in our ballpark.
That sums up the general guidelines you have to believe in if you want to call yourself a conservative in this country. Of course there's the minor shit that cost under 20 million per item, which is discretionary/whoever makes the best pitch or whatever is in the subject du jour.
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Patlal
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
#22041116 - 08/04/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Does that make sense?
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
#22041229 - 08/04/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds pretty dystopian
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: twighead] 2
#22041262 - 08/04/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm voting for Mulcair. They picked Trudeau for all the wrong reasons and Harper needs to go. Green party is slightly less of a joke than BC. We need a man with a beard.
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Patlal
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: twighead]
#22041285 - 08/04/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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twighead said: Sounds pretty dystopian
Reality isn't utopia.
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Patlal
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: larry.fisherman] 1
#22041287 - 08/04/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: I'm voting for Mulcair. They picked Trudeau for all the wrong reasons and Harper needs to go. Green party is slightly less of a joke than BC. We need a man with a beard.
Yeah. I just might go for Mulcair too. I'm curious to see what an NDP government looks like.
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: Patlal]
#22041780 - 08/04/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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twighead said: Sounds pretty dystopian
Reality isn't utopia.
Yes it is! Your bad for fooling yourself though
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Re: The Federal Canadian Elections are on as of yesterday. [Re: twighead]
#22041820 - 08/04/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Id add Elizabith May to your facebook, she is a hell of a leader, and her idealizations are spot on for the most part as mine. Shes got quite the intelligence! I really suggest hearing her out. Its just unfortunate in our side of the country the green party doesnt amount too highly.
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