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Jeff_heff
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BRF Albino A+ & Mazapatec 24 jar multi grow w/tons of variables
#22035715 - 08/02/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Public enemy number 1 is using a 2.5:1:1 ratio to see if the jars will colonize faster with a slightly drier ratio of verm:h2o:brf. Using standard 8oz wide mouth mason jars. A syringe of Albino A+ and one random are expected to arrive tomorrow. He is building a glove box either later tonight or tomorrow and will update with pics and details on that as it happens. Also he plans on making a Honey LC but thinking of knocking up the solution with both so that every jar there after is random. About to pressure cook for 90 minutes at 15 psi and let sit overnight untouched. (He got a sweet deal on Craigs list. 15qt All American only used once for 90$!) Any questions, comments, suggestions, or criticisms are welcome. Just rejoined the forum and glad to be back!
Edited by Jeff_heff (08/05/15 03:07 PM)
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22035737 - 08/02/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome deal, I also tried increasing verm ratio and it seems like the colonization is going faster with this batch. Best of luck and can't wait to see the pics. I would recommend against the LC using a spore syringe but do what you want!
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: bluegill]
#22035761 - 08/02/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That is going to be a pretty dry mix but if your using coarser verm it might work better for you. I find that with fine verm the 2:1:1 is perfect but is too wet with coarser or medium grade. The tek does call for fine grade but its not always easy to find so I sympathize.
Don't inoculate an LC with spores tho. Its a bad idea in my book. Your doing cakes, ya have spores, that's okay. But MS solution is a real risk in a LC.
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22035790 - 08/02/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: That is going to be a pretty dry mix but if your using coarser verm it might work better for you. I find that with fine verm the 2:1:1 is perfect but is too wet with coarser or medium grade. The tek does call for fine grade but its not always easy to find so I sympathize.
Don't inoculate an LC with spores tho. Its a bad idea in my book. Your doing cakes, ya have spores, that's okay. But MS solution is a real risk in a LC.

Hmmm, ok he'll trust that. What have you had personal success with knocking up LC?
Edited by Jeff_heff (08/05/15 02:29 PM)
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22035807 - 08/02/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I only use agar wedges to inoculate LC. I can see the wedge is clean. I also like to use really fast aggressive clones then the extra speed the LC provides means it just tears the shit up. LC is like driving a killer sports car. Care must be taken if you want that speed to work in your favor.
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22035938 - 08/02/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I will check your agat tek out
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22039475 - 08/03/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok update. Got a 10cc syringe of albino A+ and a 10cc syringe of Mazapatec. Noc'd up 4 jars of the 2.5:1:1 (verm:h20:brf) with 1cc and 2 jars with 1/2cc of A+ and did the same with Mazapatec. Tomorrow will do another 12 jars using the original pf tek 2:1:1 ratio and the same amount of solution per jars.
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22039890 - 08/03/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK change that again (ADHD). Going to go ahead, after reading pf tek for simple minds, and try a different ratio. 6 jars (2 with 1cc, 1 jar with 1/2cc per individual strain) of original 2:1:1 and 6 jars of 3:1:1. So, total jars
2:1:1 - 2 jars @ 1cc, 1 jar @ 1/2cc per strain. Total 6 jars
2.5:1:1 - 4 jars @ 1cc, 2 jars @ 1/2cc per strain. Total 12 jars
3:1:1 - 2 jars @ 1cc, 1 jar @ 1/2cc per strain. Total 6 jars
24 jar brf multi stain grow. Will then make agar plates and clone for Honey LC to then noc up WBS/grass seed mix. Will post any new ideas, pics, and progress
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22039996 - 08/03/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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good to see you continuing with new batches of pf-tek and good to see you already have a pressure cooker
once you get agar down, which is easy as fuck, it will open up your possibilities for doing bulk and leaving cakes in the dust!
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Munchauzen]
#22040092 - 08/03/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks! Public enemy number 1 loves experimentation! (wouldn't be doing shroom stuff otherwise). Will be interesting to see the differences made between ratios, strains, and ms spore solution ammounts
Edited by Jeff_heff (08/05/15 02:30 PM)
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22041480 - 08/04/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Ajahn Don]
#22042307 - 08/04/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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All jars noc'd and labeled. Set back in jar box and placed in a warm upstairs closet. Will check in 5-7 days and update with pics and progress. Also off topic but next investment will be a tyvek painters suit with respirator
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22043947 - 08/04/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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got anywhere not in a closet to put them? preferably somewhere not in the dark, where they can receive indirect sunlight.
our mushrooms like light at every stage of growth. growing in the dark is old-outdated.
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Munchauzen]
#22045629 - 08/05/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sure he can find a spot that's out of the way and fairly sterile
Edited by Jeff_heff (08/05/15 02:30 PM)
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22047717 - 08/05/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jars separated 2 more steps for further observation. Half and half separated in boxes of 12: 6 covered with tinfoil and micro pore tape, 6 uncovered and holes open for a higher exchange. One case of 12 is in a dark warm closet the other is in the same room but in ambient lighting. Public enemy number 1 told me hes looking to see the difference lighting and covering has on colonization. Any experience with doing this before? Any tips or suggestions? Take a Crack at guessing which strain (covered/uncovered, darkness/ambient light, ratio/ms solution) will colonize and fruit faster?

Edited by Jeff_heff (08/05/15 02:37 PM)
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22047825 - 08/05/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're not supposed to leave the foil on your jars once you inoculate them.
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Al Bundy]
#22047932 - 08/05/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Al Bundy said: You're not supposed to leave the foil on your jars once you inoculate them.
If you read above, my friend is doing all this purely out of research on the variable growing details of the same tek. With a large enough sample, control jars and variables, results should clearly indicate which verm:h20:brf ratio to use for MS, if light really has any effect, and if keeping the jars closed up or as open as possible leads to faster/slower colonization an higher/lower contam rate. Public enemy number 1 COULD read about it, but if the materials are available, why not use them and do his own observations?
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22048481 - 08/05/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Public enemy 1 should see if setting the jars on fire speeds things up. It might be really cool. That would be some research i would like to see, controls be dammed! He could use gasolene for half and lighter fluid for the other half
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22049212 - 08/05/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Public enemy 1 should see if setting the jars on fire speeds things up. It might be really cool. That would be some research i would like to see, controls be dammed! He could use gasolene for half and lighter fluid for the other half 
Haha yes! And then, he can do it in a hot box room to record effects!
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Re: BRF A+ Albino (1st grow in 6 years) [Re: Jeff_heff]
#22062113 - 08/08/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lost 5 jars, all a+ second round innoc. Dk but a contam must have gotten INTO the solution as sterility was striv3d for in all steps :/
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