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Nagakush23
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Student of microbiology
#22035550 - 08/02/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello new here look forward to learning from you guys. Today was my first ever pc sterlization is it normal to have a small amount of condensation inside the jars?
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
#22035579 - 08/02/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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hi, yes, normal. it'll be absorbed into the grain in a few days. then in a few more days when you see mycelium growth, you may see more condensation from the heat it generates.
just out of curiosity, what kind of lids/filters are you using?
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: FriedEgg]
#22035640 - 08/02/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, it's normal. Give it a few shakes and it'll be re-absorbed into the grains.
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Nagakush23
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: ShroominMe]
#22035659 - 08/02/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yessss
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Nagakush23
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
#22035664 - 08/02/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not using grain using brf
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
#22035670 - 08/02/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ah ok. you have a dry verm layer on top, right?
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Nagakush23
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: FriedEgg]
#22035783 - 08/02/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes I do. Also I have whole grain, I have let it soak now for two days can it be used as casing
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
#22035801 - 08/02/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A casing needs to be a non nutritious substance. Grains are good for use as a spawn, but having a 2 day soak is a pretty long time, but it'd probably still be fine.
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Achillita]
#22035816 - 08/02/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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After 2 days that shit is going to be germinating and the starches converting. Not to mention the bacillus count will be through the roof. Grains should only be soaked for 18 hours max but up to 24 can work. I usually only soak for 12 hours, if I bother to soak them at all.
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Achillita
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22035833 - 08/02/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can you not soak grains, and just simmer them? I thought it was necessary, or at least optimal...
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Achillita]
#22035837 - 08/02/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sure you can. I never soak grains. I just simmer them. Soaking is such a pain in the ass.
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Achillita]
#22035850 - 08/02/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Can you not soak grains, and just simmer them? I thought it was necessary, or at least optimal... 
Sure you can but not for too long. But I usually do no soak prep unless I am doing rye or wheat. WBS and millet prep better for me with Foomans method which only takes an hour of soaking. Oats I usually just light boil until hydrated.
Soak preps are pretty easy to follow but not the only way to do things. But you never want to soak too long. Doing so starts the germination process for both the grains and the bacterial endospores in them. Soak for too long and you have massive amounts of bacteria reproducing and starches being converted into sugar. Plus it will stink like hell.
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Nagakush23
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22039397 - 08/03/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is moisture control potting mix the same as vermiculite
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
#22039403 - 08/03/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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no
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Nagakush23
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: cronicr]
#22039421 - 08/03/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could it be used
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Nagakush23
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
#22039454 - 08/03/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also could whole grain mix good be used in substrate
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
#22039874 - 08/03/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like you have a lot of reading to do.
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Nagakush23
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Lol yes I do from the reading I have completed lots of people have good things to say about using grains in substrates just wanted confirmation, very typical for a noobie
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: cronicr]
#22039984 - 08/03/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nagakush23 said: Could it be used
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Nagakush23 said: Also could whole grain mix good be used in substrate
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cronicr said: no
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: cronicr]
#22040008 - 08/03/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nagakush23 said: Could it be used
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Nagakush23 said: Also could whole grain mix good be used in substrate
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cronicr said: no
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