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digitalcubes88
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Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please!
#22035059 - 08/02/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi every one.. first post on the shroomery! woo hoo! been reading for years finally decided to make an account. Ive had a few grows in the past but its been like 5 years so im a little fuzzy on the second stage.
Well Ill hop right into it. so my first dilemma is this.. I started this batch around 4/9 it is now 8/2 I used the wbs-tek because i was planning on using horse poo for the main substrate. but after ruining a few jars and loosing my connection to fresh horse poo im now trying to switch back to the brf tek. so its been about 4 months.. havent had time or space to work on my project till now. some of my jars have the yellow goldish stuff which i think is pee.. but for the most part my jars are fully colonized and i see no contaminants.. My question is will they still fruit after sitting for so long.
My second dilemma is that now im trying to switch from wbs to brf.. so what im doing is birthing my cakes onto sterilized brf mix with a tad bit of gypsum mixed in.(mixed in before pressuring cooking at 15 psi for an hour) im planning to use the casing method at this point. will this work? will the gypsum help in this particular susbtrate? also im not sure how much gypsum to add i may have added too much in this first casing cake. will it cause problems if i added too much? if your wondering im using large foil pans that will fit in a tub and also a layer of perlite for humidity on the bottom of the tub.
thanks! any help would be greatly appreciated!
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cronicr



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i would honestly suggest just spawning your cakes to a simple bulk sub, spawning to more brf seems like more trouble then it's worrth, i would also suggest using a plastic tray and as for gypsum a rough 5% is plenty
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digitalcubes88
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: cronicr]
#22035105 - 08/02/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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you are probably right.. more trouble than its worth.. but its material that i have laying around.. i plan on doing more cakes this up coming week. I dont have any material for a new substrate right now.. but i will in a few days... what would you recommend? ive read 50%verm 50% peat..
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cronicr



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that's a casing material not a bulk sub, coir manure straw grass clippings are all good
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digitalcubes88
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: cronicr]
#22035111 - 08/02/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cool thanks! what would you say about the amount of time my jars have been sitting?
Edited by digitalcubes88 (08/02/15 08:11 PM)
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digitalcubes88
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does any one know how long an average colonized jar will last? mine have been in incubation state for about 4 months havent been able to work on them. will they still fruit?
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cronicr



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yep they will still fruit, mine were almost 5 months old...a bitch to break up but they worked
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: cronicr]
#22068260 - 08/09/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ive been having a hard time finding coir. i dont want to order it online. where do u guys get the coir? i accidently got coco husk fiber not the coir.. seems impossible to find this shit
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NoOneWillRemember
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Pet Stores, Lizard Section
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Psilosoulful

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Coco husk fiber is the same thing as "coir".
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digitalcubes88
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22068312 - 08/09/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh i was reading a different thread on coir trying to figure out procedures and they stated theres 2 types of coir and u dont want the coco husk fiber. The stuff that i got doesnt say coir on it at all.. but it is coco husk fiber and it was really difficult to locate. Im not experienced with coir so im not really sure what im looking for.
so i have a brick of compressed coco husk fiber.. is it the right stuff? here is a link www.aurorainnovations.org/coco-fiber.html
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Psilosoulful

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Coir is made from scraping the outside of a coconut shell, that's where the term "coconut husk fiber" comes from. It'll work fine.
Edited by Psilosoulful (08/09/15 05:22 PM)
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digitalcubes88
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22068549 - 08/09/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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k thanks. ill be doing damions 50/50 coir tek. i have a question about it tho. in the tek it states 1 brick of coir but it doesnt tell u the quantity i have a giant 5 kilo brick. what would the right amount to use for this tek?
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spacechildo
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650 gram.
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cronicr



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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: spacechildo]
#22068823 - 08/09/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's Damion50/50's tek not Damion's 50/50
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spacechildo
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: cronicr]
#22068847 - 08/09/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If I had a penny for every time I said that I'd have a head ache from counting all my pennies
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taGyo
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: spacechildo]
#22069521 - 08/09/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's 80/20 right?
The real mix
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: spacechildo]
#22069524 - 08/09/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damion50/50's coir tek works well for starting out, it's easy to get right. Learn how to dial in your monotub as well, it will help. IME, 8-12 days after spawning to bulk (with ideal temps) should get you to fruiting stage. Don't do it when you're not fully colonized, and don't wait until you see lots of pins. Mist with RO water, as coco and verm are easily contaminated.
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taGyo
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: Govam]
#22069528 - 08/09/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Coco and verm are not easily contaminated.
I mist with my dirty ass tap water. The water will not be the source of your contamination. Your spawn will be.
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Edited by taGyo (08/09/15 09:12 PM)
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spacechildo
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Re: Penis Envy Pftek/wbs help please! [Re: taGyo]
#22069536 - 08/09/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah that was just crazy talk..
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